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i was kidding

and personally, your embargo was quite rude, instead of threatening with war, you'd try to improve realtions when you're at war with Poland, just an idea =P
 

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Javier (Pibe) said:
i was kidding

and personally, your embargo was quite rude, instead of threatening with war, you'd try to improve realtions when you're at war with Poland, just an idea =P

I apologize, I was not threatening you with war. That would be a bit pointless : if you go to war with me, I will go to war with you. :confused: I was merely pointing out, very subtle BTW, that if you would attack me through Central Asia. When I'm already having a hell of a time just beating up the Poles and am in no position to give you any kind of battle. :eek:

That would change the dynamics of the region. For the first I would have to find someway offset the dominance of the 2 Sunni's, for you would have proved yoursleves too dangerous for me to be simply be neutral. There is always the question of how long until they(you) would want something of mine again and Ozzeh has already stated that he wants none of my worthless provs. It would simply be aiding those that want none of mine against those that watch me with avarice. :D

The embargo might have been rude, but I just kept it in place while I placed my own merchants. BTW, I thought that while you are not the best Human player to offend, you would be the most reasonable one. I cant see your COT's, so I was just evening the playing field. Also I fail to see why you should enjoy the fruits of my poor grain provs, you with all of those high production provs. :p

P.S. I'm just having fun as well, I suggest you not take me to seriously.
 

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Investment in trade for my AAR and Prussia(number 290) to Brandenburg
 

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I think that was a very good session. I enjoyed that very much.
 

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Good session and thanks to my leaders i managed to defend from Russia hordes... The only problem is that Russia will have soon a lot of better leaders than me... but this time i managed to defend myself :D - must make a alliance against Russia than if Russia is not willing to enter any alliance with Poland.....
 

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It was a nice enough session even though my territorial ambitions failed miserably. A pity though that Luis wasn't able to play, hopefully he will get his firewall sorted out before next friday. I have to admit, being new to the EU2 MP scene, that I find it strange how the game seems to have just stagnated. There seems to be little to do except sit around and build a big enough advantage over your neighbours, that war becomes very little hazard. Not that I'm complaining, its just strange thats all.

Well just so happens that I took a screenshot of OE's WE to prove you guy's wrong. :rofl:

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Well just so happens that I took a screenshot of OE's WE to prove you guy's wrong. :rofl:

Well - You have some sort of different version than my EU2 because i have another country flags than You.... maybe You have some mood or i have some mood(i have AoI and once more) which changes that???

I wish i had so little WE as in Your version, when we were fighting :D
 

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Papa Chubby said:
It was a nice enough session even though my territorial ambitions failed miserably. A pity though that Luis wasn't able to play, hopefully he will get his firewall sorted out before next friday. I have to admit, being new to the EU2 MP scene, that I find it strange how the game seems to have just stagnated. There seems to be little to do except sit around and build a big enough advantage over your neighbours, that war becomes very little hazard. Not that I'm complaining, its just strange thats all.

It was not my firewall. It was my connection or the effects of to switch off the firewall (when I activate the firewall again and run an antivirus software I "only" detect 719 spyware infected files... :( (being only 2-3 hours without firewall I believe that it can be a little Guiness record))
 

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LuisPivo said:
It was not my firewall. It was my connection or the effects of to switch off the firewall (when I activate the firewall again and run an antivirus software I "only" detect 719 spyware infected files... :( (being only 2-3 hours without firewall I believe that it can be a little Guiness record))

Goddamn Luis, that is bad. Someone wants your comp to die badly :p
 

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It was a nice enough session even though my territorial ambitions failed miserably. A pity though that Luis wasn't able to play, hopefully he will get his firewall sorted out before next friday. I have to admit, being new to the EU2 MP scene, that I find it strange how the game seems to have just stagnated. There seems to be little to do except sit around and build a big enough advantage over your neighbours, that war becomes very little hazard. Not that I'm complaining, its just strange thats all.

Well just so happens that I took a screenshot of OE's WE to prove you guy's wrong. :rofl:

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I blame your crazy GFX ;)

And yes the scene you described above is usually typical of the middle game, where no side has a clear leader or tech advantage and most of the territorial ambitions have been satisfied.
You may also notice that about 1/2 of all wars in the game so far have centred around me in Brandenburg is some way, now that I have moved country... :rofl:

Well as soon as this England gets to a decent tech level and slightly lowered inflation I will attempt to attack someone for your amusement ;)
 

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Well Spain failed to save Africa from OE, Latin OE really is a giant. :( Atleast their fleet in the med was knocked off-course and isn't the beomoth is was before the conflict. :D

Edit: Btw Pibe, what is with all the SP? Build a fleet and sail to our waters you damned hypertecher! :p
 
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Austria did what I do best, namely hyperteching ;) I'm sorry if I make the game stagnate a bit, its just that I'm reluctant to attack OE with the stupid mughals funding them and if necessary joining in :( As it stands now they are just a pool for extra MP, money and troops for OE. I really hope Pibe will spice things up soon and attacks OE or something. If he does that, I will not intervene ;)

Btw, Austria now has higher income then Spain. Perhaps I should fund you Engel? :rofl:
 

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Mughals and Oe have a lot more to win if they keep united. I think it's much better to completely destroy Austria, to help France to get stronger, to completely destroy Portuguese and Spanish naval forces. This is just the beginning. :)
 

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Javier (Pibe) said:
Mughals and Oe have a lot more to win if they keep united. I think it's much better to completely destroy Austria, to help France to get stronger, to completely destroy Portuguese and Spanish naval forces. This is just the beginning. :)

Yes, and if the world would open its eyes and gang the muslims, its OE that would take the punches and mughals that stays untouched. Either way, mughals stay the untouchable hypertechers in the east for the rest of the game. Now THAT is what is stagnating.
 

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Javier (Pibe) said:
Mughals and Oe have a lot more to win if they keep united. I think it's much better to completely destroy Austria, to help France to get stronger, to completely destroy Portuguese and Spanish naval forces. This is just the beginning. :)
I'd like to think France is peaceful with Spain atm. ;)
 

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Ozzeh said:
Austria did what I do best, namely hyperteching ;) I'm sorry if I make the game stagnate a bit, its just that I'm reluctant to attack OE with the stupid mughals funding them and if necessary joining in :( As it stands now they are just a pool for extra MP, money and troops for OE. I really hope Pibe will spice things up soon and attacks OE or something. If he does that, I will not intervene ;)

Btw, Austria now has higher income then Spain. Perhaps I should fund you Engel? :rofl:

Is it a joke that my spanish sense of humour cannot understand?

I believe that the Mughal empire is making his own policies and that the OE only receive help from his brothers in faith of I.Mughal in the war against Spain, Austria and Portugal (see apendix ;) for some objetive data about this war). This don't mean that our relations aren't good or that we don't have similar enemies. In a similar way We could analyze the paper of Spain in the previous Austria-Oto war: Is it only for me or Spain only was a pool for extra MP and leaders, money and troops for Austria? (In the firsts two was only money). The funny thing is that I also think the enemies of the habsburg could spice thing up dowing the habsburgs or something in order than they have not all their eyes fixed in the Oto and only hyperteching. If they don't do that I could tell them that the infra 8 and trade 8 boy will massacrate all of them in the next future.

Moreover, we can estimated that the OE is a great power. But Austria is a great power and his candidates to being enemies are a little impoverished. Do you see a France that have 60 of less MP and two hundred of less ducads/month? Poland and BB don't arrive at the 100 top mark of ducads month, etc.

We agree, Oto is too much powerful, but I can add: Austria is too much powerful and he is sorrounded with not as powerful countries and helped with some moneylenders and forces wanting to help too (see that the only people that have the CRT of OE are the allies of habsburg....).

Appendix: Relative forces of the OE and the habsburg coalition (economic and manpower and ships data) in the OE+Mughal vs Spain-Austria-Portugal before the war (seeing the stats in the end of the previous session 1573):

OE: 238 ducads/months and 193 MP pool 228 ships (join galleys and warships)

Austria: 121 ducads and 151 MP and 54ships
Spain: 277 ducads and 141 MP and 311 ships
Porto: 177 ducads and 22 MP and 135 ships

If we do a simple sum we'll have:

238 vs 575 ducads/months (the yearly it can be calculated too and then the picture could be embarrasing...)
193 vs 314 of MP
228 ships vs 500 ships

(And I don't wanna talk about the leaders...)

We can add then the Mughal.... 144 $, 188 MP and 0 ships in the battlefield
And see that Mughal balanced the forces.