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[renny55]

How about the other way around. He tried to impress you because he wants your respect, but made a fool of himself now that you found out about his cheating, and it's too embarrassing to admit.

I mean, I can see your point of view but at least give him some slack regarding his motivations. It seems unlikely that he intended to insult or disrespect you.

Haven't thought about it. You may be right. He is a good guy after all.

 

[Junuxx]

And EU 4 doesnt requiere any more brain cells than any other game, it just requires a different mindset

every game has mechanics. Every game requires time and patience to master and understand. EU 4 is no different.

Well that's just patently false. Some games -pretty much literally- have big flashing arrows showing you were to click next for more points and rewards, while in other games, you need to identify your goals, weigh the available options, plan ahead, consider the short term and long term consequences and then pick one out of many paths. Don't tell me that those two scenarios require an equal amount of mental skill or effort.

As a matter of fact its one of the easiest games out there. Civ 5 is like a million times harder

That is a surprising statement, but interesting. A million times harder? Are you comparing fairly between difficulty settings? That is, EU4 on normal vs Civ5 on Prince if we were to compare the difficulty with the fewest AI or human handicaps.
How about multiplayer?

 

[renny55]

TBH we obsess too much about success and perfection, to the point of absurdity. Honesty not so much, and honor? Forget about it. And no doubt he is smart, but that doesn't mean he really understands just how complex Paradox games actually are - most people have no idea. He probably thought that the achievement could plausibly be done in 12 hours, and that you would believe he did it, and be proud of him. Whereas he would have got far more out of a serious engagement with the game, an exploration of the game mechanics, the maths, and immersing himself in the history. But did he know that?

You also have to note that the prevailing spirit of the age is that it's OK to do what's wrong, as long as you convince yourself that you're not hurting anyone, and you can get away with it. I'm not going to go into details, for fear of taking this way off topic, but morality is a very hard thing to install in people who see absolutely no reason for it. It's this way in Australia, and I presume wherever you are as well. How do you try? You can set your own good example through your actions and words, and you can make it clear what your expectations are, but that's as much as anyone can do.

Thanks. I believe this is the right way to go. Thank you, indeed. I'm in Mexico btw; and it seems morality is not that different from here and Australia

 

[renny55]

Am I the only one that is bothered by the fact that the bet was for AC:Unity? Seriously, the kid's thirteen, and the game is rated M. I'm fine with a parent making the decision that their child is old enough for mature content, but you're his teacher - you should not even be entertaining the thought of buying one of your students a game/movie/whatever that is not age-appropriate. Actually, you shouldn't be making bets with your students, period, but that's another matter entirely.

You are correct. But there are some presitions I must do.

One. The kid and i met way before he was my student. He is now because of some twists life has given. Bet with him as me as a teacher is not correct, yet I knew there wasn't not going to be a problem with his parents and the school. Besides, here in the country, or at least in this state, betting for a game is not recived bad by people.

Two. Here, NO ONE cares about the rates of the games or movies, really. We don't have that culture. People don't even check that. People think, or all videogames are all right or all gaming is bad for a kid. Besides, the boy have several videogames with far more gory and sexual themes that any AC could offer. He have GTA, for instance.

 

[renny55]

I'm a little more concerned with the fact that a young smart strategy fan shows interest in a dull action-adventure. As a teacher, OP should dissuade him and buy him Beyond Earth or Dominions 4 instead

He is just a kid. And, not so much, but he does moves at sound of new the mainstream things. Even so, as he put it, he doesn't own many games like AC, but he does own a large amount of strategy games. If he got the game, it will only be a fashion until he finished, then he will play again his smarter games.
He is on the right way

 

[renny55]

The really interesting question here is; how do you lend games on steam to others and can I do it too?

I didn't knew this is either, the kid and his brother teach me how.

If you want to lend a game, you need to start session on their computers. Then give permission to the profiles and computers to play your games. And thats it. They cannot play the same game at the same time with you, they get a warning to save the game and the got five minutes to exit. They can get achievements in their profile and everything else.

Here is how:

store.steampowered.com/sharing

 

[renny55]

Thank you all for your support and kind words. Who would have known that this issue will become a post so large. Everything seems to going good with him. We undo the bet. And we are fine. He hasn't admit that he cheated but I don't won't to push him with that. Not that excuse betting with them, that is just wrong... but... c'mon, HE wanted to do it, HE wanted to try after I expressed it was to difficult; then I said, if you conquer the world I'll buy you the game you want.

Now, talking about education, I do believe having a close relationship with the students can provide a better atmosphere of learning. You cannot be friends of everyone, and certaintly you cannot tell them everything. But being in confidence propels their learning experience. Besides, its a group of 20 people. I can have that luxury.

Yet, I could be terrible wrong. And damaging everyone. I am actually a friend of his brother, that is how a met this little guy. He is 13, and I am 23. This is my first year of professional teaching, just one year after I finished collage. I consider myself very lucky to have this job in this economy and in the situation my country is into. It's a good job and I am learning a lot. I trully hope not to be messing the kids up. In many ways, I'm a kid too, a kid-teacher. God help us.

Again, thank you for your answers and replies. This got to be an awesome community. I'll be here more often.

 

[Artyom87]

Kids grow up with:
-divorced parents who scream at each other constantly
-parents name calling each other
-fat and ugly parents the kids are ashamed of
-fat and ugly themselves and theyre ashamed of
-lack of friends or relationships
-poor diets, low energy, low motivation
-grow up on medication because supposedly they are "depressed"
-grow up in poor households, while their classmates may be rich. Creates alot of jealousy
-they fall in and out of love. have their hearts broken
-some (such as myself) had to go through living on the street
-drugs availability at a very young age
-porn availability just about everywhere at a very young age
-bullying, harassment

and you worry about hurting a kids life if you get too close to them being a friend? You can rap-e the kid and it still wouldnt be half as bad as what most of them have to go through every day. We are just not taught to understand that

 

[Duruial]

As it has become clear that he violated the spirit, and the actual details of the bet, it is obvious he must be taught not to cheat. I suggest punishing him by buying him the Link: The Faces of Evil and force him to play it. You will also have to get him a CDI to play it on, but honestly, an hour of that should be enough to teach him to never cheat again.

 

[A Swell Guy]

You can rap-e the kid and it still wouldnt be half as bad as what most of them have to go through every day.

What?

 

[artemis667]

What?

Let's not take this thread any more off topic than it's already become.

 

[highsis]

What?

Take that as a figure of speech, as out of place as that might be. Let's not digress.