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Am I the only one that is bothered by the fact that the bet was for AC:Unity? Seriously, the kid's thirteen, and the game is rated M. I'm fine with a parent making the decision that their child is old enough for mature content, but you're his teacher - you should not even be entertaining the thought of buying one of your students a game/movie/whatever that is not age-appropriate. Actually, you shouldn't be making bets with your students, period, but that's another matter entirely.
 

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The really interesting question here is; how do you lend games on steam to others and can I do it too?

I didn't bother reading much into it, but i was able to establish that google should be able to provide you with the details. Better for you to get it from the source than from someone relaying the source to you.
 

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I'd hope you are, considering how absurd age ratings are.

*walks into room, niece and nephews are on xbox. They were probably in the ages 5-7 range at the time.

"what are you doing?"

*niece looks up "we're fighting bad guys".

What game were they playing?

Gears of War 2. I heard it before I saw it even, the lancer's melee kill being so distinctive and all ;).

At least they're savvy kids and don't go doing fake chainsaw bayonets on people at school. Heck, a few years later now the older one is starting to become a somewhat polished gamer lol.
 

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Am I the only one that is bothered by the fact that the bet was for AC:Unity? Seriously, the kid's thirteen, and the game is rated M. I'm fine with a parent making the decision that their child is old enough for mature content, but you're his teacher - you should not even be entertaining the thought of buying one of your students a game/movie/whatever that is not age-appropriate. Actually, you shouldn't be making bets with your students, period, but that's another matter entirely.

I'm a little more concerned with the fact that a young smart strategy fan shows interest in a dull action-adventure. As a teacher, OP should dissuade him and buy him Beyond Earth or Dominions 4 instead;)
 
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I find it ironic that an assassin's creed game is considered more adult than a paradox game, unless that series added wholesale genocide and government brutality and I missed it. At least you don't play incest simulator to spawn geniuses in this title.
 

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Apparently he lied. What really bothers me is that he is giving excuse after excuse. And each one is dumber and harder to believe than before. If he wants to make a fool of me, it means he does not respect me. If he does not respect me is that he does not have care for our reationship.

It's called backing into a corner and panicking. It's rarely logical or rational and certainly not a insult against you personally.

I know I am talking of a 13 year old kid, but again, he is a very intelligent and mature kid. He is, by far, first of his class. Maths are easy for him, also comprehension of difficult texts. He is really smart. The hold point of this thread was to make sure, because I truly want to believe him, but I knew it was near impossible to acomplish that in just 12 hours; but I wanted to asked, to check, perhaps it was possible. But it isn't. So, he had disappointed me so much. And I definitely feel disrespected.

You know all of his intelligence and maturity doesn't mean anything? He still has years to go in literal brain development, still has years to go in social development, still is ultimately a kid.

To make things worse this little guy is not only my friend but he is also my student. I am his English and History teacher. It is supposed not to have bets between students and teacher, but no one really cares about those small infranctions. But I am supposed to help educate this kid and, at this situation, I am not sure how to do it.

How do I teach him that cheating in a competition is wrong? and even worse, to cheat on a friend is even worse?

How the fuck would I know, I would get myself into this predicament just because one small bet. Geezus.

So ultimately you overestimated your student and put yourself and him in a awkward position by breaking rules which do in fact matter as you've found out. I don't think you are in any position to claim a moral high ground or that you would be a starling teacher of morals.

At that matter if I were you, I would resign my position as a teacher. I wouldn't say you are a bad person for keeping it (For all I know you'd starve.) but you have seriously screwed up. If nothing else, make sure your actions don't have negative effects on your student and his education, whether those negative effects be from the direct breaking of rules or your own altered attitude and opinion of him.
 

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Am I the only one that is bothered by the fact that the bet was for AC:Unity? Seriously, the kid's thirteen, and the game is rated M. I'm fine with a parent making the decision that their child is old enough for mature content, but you're his teacher - you should not even be entertaining the thought of buying one of your students a game/movie/whatever that is not age-appropriate. Actually, you shouldn't be making bets with your students, period, but that's another matter entirely.

shut up

I'm a little more concerned with the fact that a young smart strategy fan shows interest in a dull action-adventure. As a teacher, OP should dissuade him and buy him Beyond Earth or Dominions 4 instead;)

you too.
 

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I just turned 25 last October and I'm just now achieving what I believe to be an acceptable level of maturity. I wouldn't expect a 13 year old to have anything more than bursts of moral clarity, they're right in the stage of impulsive hormone whirlwinds. Nothing wrong with making a bet with a kid, you shouldn't coddle kids, but don't come crying to peers for solidarity when you get outsmarted.
 

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I'm more than twice his age, and if someone bet me on whether or not I could "get an achievement" I'd totally consider this fine.

Until more details came out, I actually thought the OP was paying to have someone get it for him so he could look like he did it, and was all ready to throw insults until I realized I was wrong. Still, the kid DID get the achievement; now you gotta nitpick HOW he got the achievement. Good luck. From now on, you're that teacher who doesn't follow through with his promises. Have fun with that.

When I did an afterschool program for fourth graders, I made a bet that I would buy everyone pizza from a local restaurant if any one of them beat me at chess. I made SURE that I was crystal clear about the rules and no cheating. One kid tried to cheat, and would have pulled it off, but his classmate told him it wouldn't work and made him play fair. I also bought those damn whippersnappers their pizza when I finally lost. The moral of the story is, you need to be clear on the rules, you need to do what you promise, and you need to offer an appropriate prize if you're going to make a bet with children.
 

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I'm a little more concerned with the fact that a young smart strategy fan shows interest in a dull action-adventure. As a teacher, OP should dissuade him and buy him Beyond Earth or Dominions 4 instead;)
Beyond Earth? Seriously?
You could get CIV V with all the expansions cheaper... and it would have a lot more features
 

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Moral of the story here should be that your not supposed to be "friends" with your students, employees or really anyone that you have professional authority over and a duty of care, friendly is good but hes not your equal even disregarding his age.
 

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Moral of the story here should be that your not supposed to be "friends" with your students, employees or really anyone that you have professional authority over and a duty of care, friendly is good but hes not your equal even disregarding his age.

You don't have to be friends with a kid to make a bet. The problem here is hardly that he decided to challenge a student to do something difficult for a meaningful reward; the problem is basically everything else!
 

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the f does it matter to you guys what his private life is like and his relations with his students.

THe closer he is to his students the better. Kids need mentors, regardless if theyre perfect or not.

Now, assuming this kid spends like an average 10 seconds per month, that means 2 minutes per year, that means 200 minutes per 100 years, that makes it 800 minutes for 400 years.

So, in 800 minutes one could do WC assuming they are very quick. 800 minutes= basically 12 hours give or take. I would never be able to do this feat in 12 hours, but there are some insane video gamers out there with insane rigs. So, I DO believe 12 hour WC is doable

note that intelligence has absolutely nothing to do with being good at a video game, having one doesnt make you get the other. My gf is very intelligent, but give her tetris and she'd get a headache. And EU 4 doesnt requiere any more brain cells than any other game, it just requires a different mindset. Its basically for people who used to play war with toy soldiers when they were little
 

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the f does it matter to you guys what his private life is like and his relations with his students.

THe closer he is to his students the better. Kids need mentors, regardless if theyre perfect or not.

Now, assuming this kid spends like an average 10 seconds per month, that means 2 minutes per year, that means 200 minutes per 100 years, that makes it 800 minutes for 400 years.

So, in 800 minutes one could do WC assuming they are very quick. 800 minutes= basically 12 hours give or take. I would never be able to do this feat in 12 hours, but there are some insane video gamers out there with insane rigs. So, I DO believe 12 hour WC is doable

note that intelligence has absolutely nothing to do with being good at a video game, having one doesnt make you get the other. My gf is very intelligent, but give her tetris and she'd get a headache. And EU 4 doesnt requiere any more brain cells than any other game, it just requires a different mindset. Its basically for people who used to play war with toy soldiers when they were little

A mindset doesn't mean an understanding of mechanics.
 

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A mindset doesn't mean an understanding of mechanics.

every game has mechanics. Every game requires time and patience to master and understand. EU 4 is no different. matter of fact its one of the easiest games out there. Civ 5 is like a million times harder, It doesnt take any more brains to play EU4 or battlefield. It just takes a different mindset. One is for those that played toy soldiers when they were young, and the other is for those who played guns with friends

For me, EU 4 is definitely the easiest game out of all the games I play which are Diablo 3 (hardcore), starcraft 2, civ 4 and civ 5. By easy I mean how much time it takes me to feel like ive mastered the game and how quickly the game becames boring due to not being challenging enough or way too challenging because you end up manipulaing things in order to make it too challenging (like playing an OPM)

Ive played EU 4 the least of all the above games, but I feel I know and understand it best, and I dont believe my IQ is any higher than normal. So please, lets stop thinking we are all somehow smarter if we play such a nerdy game as this