The Sultanate from Najd

[Jens Tang]

I'm doing a Jihad attempt (fun run) and have my eyes on the "The Sultanate of ####" event but i'm confused whether or not it can trigger for Najd, I qualify for all the conditions.

But the event is found under West African events, but i assume that this is just for just a label with no actual function.

Note i'm a bit confused by the "90% yearly legitimacy" but hope that, that is that just a typo for "90% legitimacy"

 

[CasimirX]

I'm fairly certain this event is only available for West / Eastern / Central African tech groups and not for tags in the Muslim tech group such as Najd.

 

[Sfan]

No, this event is for the specific kind of Islam of the Swahili states, afaik, like Kilwa. They were Sunni rulers/pirates/traders that invaded mostly fetishist land alongside eastern africa, and mixed Islam and Fetishism. They have chains of events about that. This is part of this chain of event to recognize their form of Islam, if I am not wrong.
There are similar chains for Sunni states in Western Africa as well, less complex though. But there is no reason to have one as Najd, the state has always been proper Islam, whether it was Sunni or Shia.

 

[Jens Tang]

Guess i will have to reform by the decision then, but now I have some historical background to help me stomach the stab massacre (thanks for the clarification)

but one thing to note is that the event conditions on the wiki only mentions tribal government and religion to be in Muslim group as conditions (and stab and legitimacy)

but going to check the game files later today just be sure.

 

[Sfan]

The decision doesn't make you reform out of tribal, so this isn't related.
And why would you want to get out of Tribal Despotism, it has freakin RCC

 

[neondt]

Looking at the event in the files, I don't see any reason why it can't fire for Najd:

    trigger = {
       has_dlc = "Art of War"
       OR = {
           government = tribal_despotism
           government = tribal_kingdom
           government = tribal_federation
           #government = tribal_democracy
       }
       NOT = { has_country_flag = sultanate_request_choice }
       legitimacy = 90
       stability = 3
       OR = {
           full_idea_group = economic_ideas
           full_idea_group = innovativeness_ideas
           full_idea_group = administrative_ideas
       }
       religion_group = muslim
       151 = {
           owned_by = TUR
       }
       TUR = {
           religion_group = muslim
           has_ruler_modifier = khalifah
           NOT = { war_with = ROOT }
       }
   }

Nothing in there about being African. Just make sure you have positive relations with the Ottomans though, or else you won't get to reform your government,

 

[Jens Tang]

Your right i even completed economic ideas, so the ticking la is not even an issue i just want to try this newfangled monarchy thing.

and RCC <3

 

[Jens Tang]

But lets see what happens going to stab up to 3 and let a year role by (and hope for no stab eating events, although i have a feeling that the game would crash if that happens)

 

[Rikissa]

It fired for me in my Najd run

 

[Sfan]

Oh god, the event is turning you away from tribal? I pressed it for flavour in a recent campaign without checking the consequences, I thought this was some prestige thing, hopefully the Ottomans denied it to me, despite us being allied, or I would have went really mad...

 

[Quaade]

Why wouldn´t you want to get away from tribal? it´s an inferior government system compared to the others... They have more penalties too

 

[Sfan]

They have reduced coring cost and reduced unrest. This is close from being the best government form of the game.

 

[Republic of Mercury]

One modifer to rule them all, One modifier to find them, One modifier to bring them all and in the darkness core them.

 

[Sfan]

Oh, reduced unrest is not bad either from a conquest perspective. I really do take the government for reduced unrest. I swear.
Why doesn't anyone believe me?