• We have updated our Community Code of Conduct. Please read through the new rules for the forum that are an integral part of Paradox Interactive’s User Agreement.

coz1

GunslingAAR
29 Badges
May 16, 2002
14.602
2.657
hearthehurd.typepad.com
  • Victoria: Revolutions
  • Crusader Kings III
  • Imperator: Rome
  • Imperator: Rome Deluxe Edition
  • Crusader Kings II: Holy Fury
  • Crusader Kings II: Jade Dragon
  • PDXCon 2017 Awards Winner
  • Crusader Kings II: Monks and Mystics
  • Crusader Kings II: Reapers Due
  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
  • Europa Universalis: Rome Collectors Edition
  • Europa Universalis III: Collection
  • 500k Club
  • 200k Club
  • Europa Universalis: Rome
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • For The Glory
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Deus Vult
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Crusader Kings II: Sunset Invasion
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Rajas of India
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne

The Song of Wessex

* * *

Westminster, England - May 1339

Lord Jordan waited patiently in the privy council chamber. He was still rather astounded by how far he had risen at court. The Kentish Dukes had long since been passed over for other more powerful Lords. Long ago, the Lords of Kent had served successive Kings, but since that time, they were content with their building for which they were so well known. The Duke still missed the Prince and then King Arthur. The son of the Emperor had raised him up and gave him trust. The memory of his death still pained him. Yet Emperor Arthur trusted him as well. Jordan had proved himself time and again in battle and had provided excellent soldiers. At thirty and seven, he was no longer the youth of the council, but he marveled at how far the realm had come since his arrival to court.

When the Emperor finally entered, he was not in a good mood, “My Lord...I thought that I did give you leave to travel north. Pray tell why you are still here?”

“I had notion to keep you updated on Northumberland, Your Majesty,” Lord Jordan answered as he bowed.

Arthur never grew tired of waving his hand at his new title, “Speak plainly, Jordy. We’ve been through the wars together.”

“Then I will tell you that the Earl of Galloway has raised nearly two thousand for his quest on Northumberland,” Jordan answered.

“Two thousand, you say?” Arthur looked up clearly impressed.

The Duke gave nod, “I think him to have been planning his move for some time.”

Arthur moved to pour some ale, “Well...Lord Alan is the younger man even if the higher rank. I still think the claim is tenuous at best, but I was more than happy to send you with the others so it may be put down in a hurry.”


Lord Jordan thankfully accepted an offered cup, “Lord Rodrigo tarries to Cornwall, but Lord Simon has moved swiftly.”

“I should think so,” the Emperor replied as he sat at the head of the long table, “Lord Alan is his son.”

“I have my thirty three hundred ready to march north from Middlesex the moment I leave you, sire,” Jordan answered, “Between the four of us, we have nearly ten thousand against the Earl. Shouldn’t be too much of a trouble.”

Arthur ruminated as he drank, “I tell you, Jordy...I like this not. I do not need troubles to the north as I attempt to woo Queen Maud once again. How may she know that a mass of soldiers to her border are not meant for her? This trouble will likely spill over into her lands and that is the last thing that I need.”

“That is no doubt, sire,” Lord Jordan answered knowingly, “Yet I think the force we bring to bear will see this over before it has truly begun.”

“I’m trusting you to keep it so, sir,” Arthur offered a stern eye, “I know not well the young Duke of Northumberland but I know his father Lord Simon well enough...and the Lord of Cornwall. Loyal men, for the most part. Yet they do grow stronger by the day. Keep them honest, Jordy. Keep them true and away from the harsher aspects of war.”

“Indeed I will, sire,” the Duke replied, “I know well how important the lands of Northumbria are to the Empire. The people there need not see raping and pillaging.”

“Good,” Arthur gave nod as he moved to drink again.

Suddenly the chamber door opened and Earl Randolph entered with an ashen face, “Your Majesty...it is good that you are here.”

As Lord Jordan greeted him with a nod of the head, Arthur turned with concern, “What is it, my Lord? Tell me not some calamity with my grandson.”

“No, Majesty...” Randolph moved into the room and softly closed the door, “...it is the Lord of Gloucester. After these many years in pain...he has finally succumbed and passed on to God bedridden and infirm.”

All three men crossed themselves before Arthur spoke, “God save him. In my heart I am sad...but in my mind, I am of two opinions.”

“He was very ill for a long time,” Lord Jordan suggested.

The Emperor agreed, “That he was. And led a most tragic life at the end. To have lost not only his young daughter but so too his son that had come of age and seemed full of promise. I know well the meaning of that hurt. And more to that...to have been roped into these schemes from France. I had to dismiss him from council because of his failing health...but I cannot deny that his standing caused it as well.”

The Lord Chancellor gave nod, “I imagine that this is the promising sign of his sad passing, sire. One less pretender for the French crown. However...”

“You need not tell me, my Lord,” Arthur turned with quickness, “I may be approaching seventy, but my mind is as sharp as ever! Without living issue, the estates and title of Gloucester go to his nephew de Laval.”

Earl Randolph followed, “And at a stroke...Lord Simon of Bedford now rivals Normandy and York in prestige and power.”


“Then I will watch him even more carefully, sire,” Lord Jordan announced.

Arthur turned back to his drink and stared at it for a time before suggesting out loud, “And now I wonder if Alan in Northumberland might not need a spanking after all. If you attach his father’s holdings with his when all is said and done...”

Lord Randolph understood, “A base of power throughout England and well into Normandy and France.”

With a sigh, Arthur stood to refresh his drink, “You would think that being Emperor would solve these petty disputes and allow me to keep above it all. I have a fractured Brittany to settle. Issue still to Limousin to protect my realm and Barons. And the ever present ghost of the Germans to the East. Not to mention...Scotland and its progeny.”

“Lord Simon has always proved loyal, sire,” Jordan suggested, “Your son himself said so when he returned from Poitou. It has been some years, I know...and circumstances have changed since that time...yet I believe him to still honor you.”

The Lord Chancellor followed, “And on the final matter, Majesty...I am soon to Cupar in Scotland. Letters have been sent from Chatillon and your grandson and I think them received with good ear. I go to make certain of that.”

“And so you both go North and leave me to the pleasantries of the Lord Steward,” Arthur turned with a slight grin, “God help me! I swear...Lord Stephen trembles at my every word. When will Earl John return to me from Julich, I ask?”

Lord Jordan returned the grin, “Mayhap he will return with good news for you, sire. I’ve missed my time to that place and would love to see those sights once again.”

“The treaty, Jordy...” Arthur moved to the window, “...don’t forget the treaty. I’ll not stop digging up dirt on that little bastard boy, but I must have great cause to go in again.”

“I’m sure you will find it, Majesty,” Randolph suggested, “And until then...we work towards the current goal. The Queen of Scotland to the north and...”

“My grandson to Champagne,” Arthur gave nod without turning, “Take your men to Northumberland, Jordy. Make a good show of it.”

Lord Jordan gave bow before leaving, “I will, sire.”

When he was gone, Arthur finally shifted to look on his Lord Chancellor, “I know that I told you not to tell me...but...how did she take it?”

“Best not for me to say, Majesty...but her tears spoke volumes,” the Earl replied.

Arthur turned back to look out the window, “Poor Bella. Sweet Bella. I am cursed with lovers and she was simply the latest victim of it.”

“Yet it is certain to prove your point to Queen Maud,” Randolph answered.

“I hope it so, my Lord...” Arthur turned with a sad eye, “...for I have given up much. I do hope it so.”

* * *

Cupar, Scotland – October 1339

The Scots court was far more slim than that of Emperor Arthur. The hall was large enough, but the realm was not. Yet at its head still sat Queen Maud. She was forty six and still held her beauty. Long auburn hair tied back tight with a crown upon her head, it was her eyes that kept her luster. Blue...almost piercing. She had gained wrinkles over time, but to any and all that looked upon her she remained the most fair in all of Scotland.

When the Lord Chancellor of Britain was announced and brought before her, she remained seated in her chair as any regal figure might do and it suited her. She had reigned for twenty years and had surely seen her struggles. Yet she had done as her father suggested...she had learned from the best. Sitting tall in her finest dress and robes, she used those piercing blue eyes to their best effect.


To her right sat her second son Reginald. He was nearly of age and caught enough of the likeness of his father. Not quite as much as her first son, but she liked that he might favor her as well. And to her left sat her youngest and now only daughter Margaret. She was almost fourteen and to many seemed Queen Maud’s twin. Behind her were the only two she had left. Both lowborn, but trusted as any man might be to Scotland. The priest and her confessor Hugh that was near to her age and James of Cupar that had served her uncle Duncan before her and was nearing seventy. The latter held a stutter but announced the Lord Chancellor anyway.

“M...my Lady...Que...Queen...” he presented, “...here is th...the Lord Chancellor...of...England.”

She held up a hand as the Earl of Gwent entered the hall and offered a very low bow in respect. Lord Randolph held it as she looked down upon him and did not rise until she spoke, “My Lord...as I remain unmarried and you seem to enjoy your visits to Cupar these last many months, I am afraid that people may begin to talk in rumor.”

“Only because of your great beauty, Your Grace,” Lord Randolph stood taller and smiled, “Any man not by your side is a fool and worse.”

Maud narrowed her eyes, “Would that include my late husband?”

“Never that, Your Grace,” Randolph attempted to correct.

She kept a firm gaze, “He has now been dead for nearly five years. Do you think that I have forgotten?”

“How could you?” Lord Randolph answered with care, “His spirit lives on within all of us...including His Majesty, his father.”

Maud sighed, “His letter of July pleased me much...yet you return again and again for I know not what. I have naught to give you, my Lord. Nor him. I’m uncertain which one of you attempts to woo me more?”

Lord Randolph smiled, “His Majesty merely attempts to find a peace with his long lost daughter.”

“As my father died many years ago...” Maud answered with sharpness, “...I know not what he means.”

“He asked me to say so, Your Grace,” Randolph replied, “His Majesty suggested that you would know what that meant.”

Maud looked to her youngest children and then back to the Lord Chancellor, “I hold a very keen memory, my Lord. Every slightest bit...every cut...every bite. I am not like to forget. Yet I am surprised at this. What has my favor to do with his worth in any way? Did Arthur of the English not declare himself Emperor? Did my husband’s father not imprison my son?”

“Your son the Prince does quite well...as I hope that he has said to you,” Randolph countered, “Holds his court to Chatillon with his wife and youngest daughter. All things are forgiven within the House of Wessex and as His Majesty thinks of you the same...he remains in his wish that there will be reconciliation.”

The Queen shifted in her chair and kept her hard stare, “I tried to kill him, sir. Is that to be forgotten? Forgiven?”

An audible gasp came from the slim crowd but neither Queen nor Chancellor paid attention as Randolph answered, “As in all families, there may be strife. It is not unknown to the House of Wessex nor is it to your own. Yet your children here...your son to Champagne...they remain his as well as yours. He wishes once again to be as one.”

“They are not his!” Maud replied strongly, “They remain to mine own body and that of my husband, may God rest his blessed soul. You may send letter after letter but what is forgiven by him is a thing that I shall never forget...never forgive.”

Randolph showed a grin, “And here I thought that we were making progress, Your Grace.”

“You’ve a way about you, my Lord,” Maud answered with her own grin, “A sharp mind, but I’m not certain that the tongue is as golden as you think.”

“It is true,” the Lord Chancellor replied, “I am not a natural diplomat. That was my father before me. Yet I do serve and I hope well. I may only provide the words that His Majesty desires.”

Maud found a smile, “Then you do so with some wanting, my Lord. My son and I are in agreement...if ever there was a vassal to do his King’s bidding, then it is you...and not very well.”

“An Emperor...Your Grace,” Randolph returned the smile, “And one that wishes the returned love of his most respected daughter.”

She shook her head as she looked out over her slim court and then turned back to Randolph, “I’m uncertain of what respect he means, but I am grateful that he has kept his latest troubles from my lands. I’m told that your issue to the south is resolved?”

“Indeed so,” Lord Randolph gave a polite nod, “The combined efforts of the southern Lords proved too much for this treacherous Earl of Galloway and he now finds himself prisoner to the Lord of Northumberland.”


Maud smiled again, “I imagine that the Duchess of Galloway had some hand in that, my Lord. Sought to revoke his land for her own. I would think that gave him some pause.”

“I believe that victory against the Earl gave him some pause, Your Grace,” the Earl responded, “Yet it is true...one more against him sealed his defeat.”

The Queen sat taller, “Then I am thankful that my southern border is once more at peace and no trouble to me.”

“No trouble to His Majesty either,” Randolph smiled, “Yet he is grateful to have once more assisted you.”

Maud pursed her brow, “I did not think to need his assistance. Only a chance to rule my realm without your petty squabbles.”

“On that note, Your Grace...” Randolph answered, “...may we all say how wonderful it is that you are now without threat.”

“You speak of my cousin to Albany,” Maud stared with her blue eyes, “It is true. Dead from a terrible disease. I think it not wonderful but a great sadness that she should find such pain even if she warred against me.”

Lord Randolph offered a short bow, “Then you hold a good heart, Your Grace.”

“What is a great sadness also is the matter of my other cousin,” the Queen showed him a stern eye, “Now to a nunnery to Clunie. The shame of it! Her husband...another cousin though bastard he may be…he will never know his wife again. Much like all else that Arthur of the English places his hands to...he defiles them all!”

“It was meant...” Randolph tried to explain, “...as a sign of good will.”

Maud sat forward in her chair, “Good will?! That he stole my cousin only to return her to me damaged? That he stole my husband and now my son?! Pray tell what good will he offers because if there is an honest answer, I would listen!”

“It is understandable...” Randolph attempted to answer but she cut him off again.

“No, my Lord!” Maud found her anger, “What is understandable is that this man has taken from me for my entire life! My grandmother! His actions killed my father! His actions killed my husband...his own son! What he holds to give me now is but a pittance for I would rather spit on his grave than allow his worth to infect my life ever again!”

Lord Randolph stood tall as she shouted and made no motion until she was finished. When she was done, he merely showed a pleasant smile, “So you would not like to hear his proposal, Your Grace?”

“If he has one to my liking, I will doubt it!” Maud replied with a stern eye.

“A Lady of Tours...” the Lord Chancellor suggested, “...daughter to the Earl of both Tours and Auxerre. Her name is Philippa and she is of Wessex. Granddaughter of the great Lady Emma of Anjou. Though she has been married before, her husband sadly died young. His Majesty offers this as match for your own. The Prince before us.”

Queen Maud was somewhat stunned and sat back in her chair. The priest Hugh and James of Cupar spoke into her ear as young Reginald looked to them all before she turned back to Randolph, “What makes you think that I wish to enter into Wessex once more, my Lord?”

“It has been a long road, Your Grace,” Lord Randolph answered with a respectful bow before standing tall once more, “Yet York and Anjou grow strong. His Majesty knows well that your son Prince Reginald is second in line for the throne and the Empire. All that he builds for Prince Arthur...so too does he build for this Prince here. I am told to say to you...no matter the cost or reasons of past efforts...they have been put into place for the surety of your sons. For the sons of King Arthur of England. Time is a fickle thing...as you well know, Your Grace. Would it not be best to set your second son up as well as the first?”

“I’ve not seen the woman!” Prince Reginald declared.

Maud shushed him, “No matter who she is...she is a Lady!”

“And a gift to you, Your Grace,” Randolph bowed once more.

The Scots Queen leaned in to hear another word from the priest Hugh but then turned back, “I remain skeptical, my Lord. Your Emperor has found me burned more than once. I am not like to give him another chance.”

Lord Randolph gave nod, “Your son in Chatillon has shown no issue with the match. In truth, he would like his brother to be well set. A match with Tours would help him in his quest for the crown of France and would help this young Prince for it comes with it a great dowry.”

“I do not trust him,” Maud replied with a stern eye.

The Lord Chancellor bowed once more before standing, “It is meant only as a gift, Your Grace. No thing more.”
 

stnylan

Compulsive CommentatAAR
127 Badges
Aug 1, 2002
37.167
4.191
  • 500k Club
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • March of the Eagles
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis IV: Res Publica
  • Victoria: Revolutions
  • Europa Universalis: Rome
  • Rome Gold
  • Semper Fi
  • Victoria 2
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
  • Victoria 2: Heart of Darkness
  • Rome: Vae Victis
  • Hearts of Iron III Collection
  • Cities: Skylines
  • Europa Universalis III: Collection
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • Europa Universalis IV: Pre-order
  • Europa Universalis: Rome Collectors Edition
  • Mount & Blade: Warband
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Crusader Kings II: Horse Lords
  • Cities: Skylines - After Dark
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cossacks
  • Hearts of Iron IV: No Step Back
  • Deus Vult
  • Hearts of Iron II: Armageddon
  • Cities in Motion
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: Rajas of India
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: Sunset Invasion
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Darkest Hour
  • Arsenal of Democracy
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Europa Universalis III: Chronicles
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Europa Universalis IV: Art of War
  • Europa Universalis IV: Conquest of Paradise
  • Europa Universalis IV: Wealth of Nations
  • Europa Universalis IV: Call to arms event
  • For The Glory
  • For the Motherland
  • Hearts of Iron III
A more natural diplomat ... would probably be less sucessful. Though the Chancellor has a bloody hard plough-work ahead if he wants to make this field fruitful and bear the harvest the Emperor desires. It is hard to sow ripening crop now where one previously has sown salt.

Certainly if I were Maud I would not trust any offer from the Emperor.

Of course, she remains motivated by the best interests of her children. It is, perhaps, the one avenue that Arthur as left to exploit - which is (of course) why he choses this approach. But it is a sign of how self-destructive he has been (as relates to family) that even this plum offer might yet be rejected.
 

Bullfilter

Old Boardgame Grognard
29 Badges
Aug 31, 2008
8.984
8.711
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Europa Universalis: Rome
  • Hearts of Iron III
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
  • Rome: Vae Victis
  • 500k Club
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Crusader Kings II: Horse Lords
  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Colonel
  • Crusader Kings II: Reapers Due
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Together for Victory
  • Crusader Kings II: Monks and Mystics
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Death or Dishonor
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Rome Gold
  • Semper Fi
  • Hearts of Iron III Collection
  • Hearts of Iron III: Their Finest Hour
  • For the Motherland
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Crusader Kings II: Sunset Invasion
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Rajas of India
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
So our fingers are left clinging to the cliff’s top as we wait to see if the offer is accepted ... ;) I suspect it will be, but you never know.

Arthur seems to be returning to form (both for good and ill) after his illness. And his councillors - a few of them anyway - taking a greater role once again.

Do we have a new character (and potential Emperor) about to enter the cast?
 

Nikolai

Basileus Romaion
77 Badges
Jun 17, 2001
22.755
6.956
  • Europa Universalis IV: Pre-order
  • Europa Universalis: Rome
  • Semper Fi
  • Sengoku
  • Supreme Ruler: Cold War
  • Victoria 2
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
  • Victoria 2: Heart of Darkness
  • Rome: Vae Victis
  • 500k Club
  • Cities: Skylines
  • Crusader Kings II: Holy Knight (pre-order)
  • Europa Universalis III: Collection
  • Victoria: Revolutions
  • Europa Universalis: Rome Collectors Edition
  • Mount & Blade: Warband
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Pillars of Eternity
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Stellaris
  • Stellaris: Galaxy Edition
  • Stellaris: Galaxy Edition
  • Hearts of Iron IV Sign-up
  • Stellaris Sign-up
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
  • Victoria 3 Sign Up
  • Divine Wind
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Darkest Hour
  • Deus Vult
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Europa Universalis III: Chronicles
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Hearts of Iron II: Armageddon
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Europa Universalis IV: Conquest of Paradise
  • Europa Universalis IV: Call to arms event
  • For The Glory
  • For the Motherland
  • Hearts of Iron III
  • Heir to the Throne
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Magicka
  • March of the Eagles
That is a most prestigeous offer, even if Maud surely is understandably of two minds about it.
 

JabberJock14

General
31 Badges
Dec 3, 2015
1.788
1.374
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mare Nostrum
  • Europa Universalis IV: Res Publica
  • Europa Universalis IV: Wealth of Nations
  • Europa Universalis IV: Conquest of Paradise
  • Europa Universalis IV: Art of War
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Rajas of India
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: Holy Fury
  • Europa Universalis IV: Dharma
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rule Britannia
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cradle of Civilization
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mandate of Heaven
  • Crusader Kings II: Monks and Mystics
  • Europa Universalis 4: Emperor
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rights of Man
  • Crusader Kings II: Reapers Due
  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cossacks
  • Crusader Kings II: Horse Lords
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Europa Universalis IV: Third Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: Jade Dragon
Bella's fate is tragic but not unexpected. I remain puzzled by Arthur's thought that would mean anything to Maud (especially since you corrected that she's her cousin - not even her sister). Thus he made a woman he professed to love miserable for... what?

In any case, Maud is right to be suspicious of Arthur, but one thing to note about a plainly selfish enemy is to see how he benefits from the deal. And Arthur does benefit from this - not because of any great friendship toward Maud, but further insurance for securing his legacy. Should something happen to Arturo 2.5, the Emperor sets the second in line up with a power base.
 

coz1

GunslingAAR
29 Badges
May 16, 2002
14.602
2.657
hearthehurd.typepad.com
  • Victoria: Revolutions
  • Crusader Kings III
  • Imperator: Rome
  • Imperator: Rome Deluxe Edition
  • Crusader Kings II: Holy Fury
  • Crusader Kings II: Jade Dragon
  • PDXCon 2017 Awards Winner
  • Crusader Kings II: Monks and Mystics
  • Crusader Kings II: Reapers Due
  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
  • Europa Universalis: Rome Collectors Edition
  • Europa Universalis III: Collection
  • 500k Club
  • 200k Club
  • Europa Universalis: Rome
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • For The Glory
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Deus Vult
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Crusader Kings II: Sunset Invasion
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Rajas of India
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
Fb-fb:

A more natural diplomat ... would probably be less sucessful. Though the Chancellor has a bloody hard plough-work ahead if he wants to make this field fruitful and bear the harvest the Emperor desires. It is hard to sow ripening crop now where one previously has sown salt.

Certainly if I were Maud I would not trust any offer from the Emperor.

Of course, she remains motivated by the best interests of her children. It is, perhaps, the one avenue that Arthur as left to exploit - which is (of course) why he choses this approach. But it is a sign of how self-destructive he has been (as relates to family) that even this plum offer might yet be rejected.
I admit, I had to sort of push this scene as I too thought it a hard fight. In most circumstances, Maud would wish nothing more to do with Arthur. Yet it is a plum match and perhaps she can make something of that. After all, she doesn't know the future and her past has been problematic.

So our fingers are left clinging to the cliff’s top as we wait to see if the offer is accepted ... ;) I suspect it will be, but you never know.

Arthur seems to be returning to form (both for good and ill) after his illness. And his councillors - a few of them anyway - taking a greater role once again.

Do we have a new character (and potential Emperor) about to enter the cast?
Heh. I felt that I had done all I needed to within the scene so I stopped it there. I could have gone on to acceptance, but with these two...it is almost as if they need each other. :D As for new character, Reg got his line. ;) He will be important in the future, but this was all he needed to do right now.

That is a most prestigeous offer, even if Maud surely is understandably of two minds about it.
I thought it a good match too. I don't like to do too much inbreeding, but I do like to keep it Wessex if I can. :D

Bella's fate is tragic but not unexpected. I remain puzzled by Arthur's thought that would mean anything to Maud (especially since you corrected that she's her cousin - not even her sister). Thus he made a woman he professed to love miserable for... what?

In any case, Maud is right to be suspicious of Arthur, but one thing to note about a plainly selfish enemy is to see how he benefits from the deal. And Arthur does benefit from this - not because of any great friendship toward Maud, but further insurance for securing his legacy. Should something happen to Arturo 2.5, the Emperor sets the second in line up with a power base.
Your second comment answers your first. After all this time, don't you know that Arthur does what is best for him? Sending Bella away might have hurt in some sense, but all that matters is what it gets him. As we see, not much. That doesn't mean that he thought it might. Same with this offer. He is trying to woo Maud in any way he can. As I said above, it is almost like they need each other. ;)

(And I very much liked writing Maud's rejection of the first offer.)


To all - I have spent a shit-ton on Christmas gifts already after a nice Thanksgiving, but that does not mean that I'm not writing. Full bore into Chapter 15 and having some great fun with it. You will notice more and more that I am combining scenes. Some longer and some shorter, but there is a bit of a theme to them. I particularly enjoyed putting these two together as one showed Arthur's POV and the other gives us Maud. She may not always be a prime character in the scenes that follow, but she will remain a player and always on the mind.

Another thing that you may notice is that I am not going screen for screen with important bits. Things like the above conflict interested me less and less as I wrote. I hope the important bits come across in the writing, but they really are just backdrop the Arthur's life. I hold to that and will keep doing more of it as we get towards the end. Always ask questions if something is not clear, but I just want to write Arthur's story and by this point, the game hardly matters. :p

As always, thank you for your readership and comments! I don't do this without you. There is a lot more to go and I hope to keep you enthralled every step of the way. :)
 

Nikolai

Basileus Romaion
77 Badges
Jun 17, 2001
22.755
6.956
  • Europa Universalis IV: Pre-order
  • Europa Universalis: Rome
  • Semper Fi
  • Sengoku
  • Supreme Ruler: Cold War
  • Victoria 2
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
  • Victoria 2: Heart of Darkness
  • Rome: Vae Victis
  • 500k Club
  • Cities: Skylines
  • Crusader Kings II: Holy Knight (pre-order)
  • Europa Universalis III: Collection
  • Victoria: Revolutions
  • Europa Universalis: Rome Collectors Edition
  • Mount & Blade: Warband
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Pillars of Eternity
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Stellaris
  • Stellaris: Galaxy Edition
  • Stellaris: Galaxy Edition
  • Hearts of Iron IV Sign-up
  • Stellaris Sign-up
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
  • Victoria 3 Sign Up
  • Divine Wind
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Darkest Hour
  • Deus Vult
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Europa Universalis III: Chronicles
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Hearts of Iron II: Armageddon
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Europa Universalis IV: Conquest of Paradise
  • Europa Universalis IV: Call to arms event
  • For The Glory
  • For the Motherland
  • Hearts of Iron III
  • Heir to the Throne
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Magicka
  • March of the Eagles
One thing I forgot to comment on; Maud has a perfect 100 relations to Arthur. :D
 

coz1

GunslingAAR
29 Badges
May 16, 2002
14.602
2.657
hearthehurd.typepad.com
  • Victoria: Revolutions
  • Crusader Kings III
  • Imperator: Rome
  • Imperator: Rome Deluxe Edition
  • Crusader Kings II: Holy Fury
  • Crusader Kings II: Jade Dragon
  • PDXCon 2017 Awards Winner
  • Crusader Kings II: Monks and Mystics
  • Crusader Kings II: Reapers Due
  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
  • Europa Universalis: Rome Collectors Edition
  • Europa Universalis III: Collection
  • 500k Club
  • 200k Club
  • Europa Universalis: Rome
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • For The Glory
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Deus Vult
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Crusader Kings II: Sunset Invasion
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Rajas of India
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
One thing I forgot to comment on; Maud has a perfect 100 relations to Arthur. :D
Yes, well...you know I have to fudge some things every now and then to serve the story. That said, rather odd that she really did try to kill me with such fine relations. :eek:
 

TheButterflyComposer

The Dark Lord Kelebek
54 Badges
Mar 4, 2016
8.196
14.696
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mare Nostrum
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
  • Victoria 2: Heart of Darkness
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Together for Victory
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Crusader Kings II: Horse Lords
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cossacks
  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Colonel
  • Crusader Kings II: Reapers Due
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rights of Man
  • Europa Universalis IV: Pre-order
  • Crusader Kings II: Monks and Mystics
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mandate of Heaven
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Death or Dishonor
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cradle of Civilization
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rule Britannia
  • Crusader Kings II: Holy Fury
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Prison Architect
  • Hearts of Iron IV: La Resistance
  • Crusader Kings III
  • Battle for Bosporus
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • Victoria 2
  • Victoria 3 Sign Up
  • Hearts of Iron IV: By Blood Alone
  • Hearts of Iron IV: No Step Back
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Crusader Kings II: Sunset Invasion
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: Rajas of India
  • Europa Universalis IV: Third Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: Jade Dragon
  • Darkest Hour
  • Europa Universalis IV: Art of War
  • Europa Universalis IV: Conquest of Paradise
  • Europa Universalis IV: Wealth of Nations
  • Europa Universalis IV: Call to arms event
  • For the Motherland
  • Hearts of Iron III
Yes, well...you know I have to fudge some things every now and then to serve the story. That said, rather odd that she really did try to kill me with such fine relations. :eek:

In my very first game this happened. I wrote my first piece of writing on the site about it (in blog section). For some strange reason, people will still be incredibly self-serving even if they not only 100 percent like you but are also your lover, married to you and benefit from you living. In my case my son who absolutely adored me, and told me so in a game mechanic, murdered me three days later. CKII just does this sometimes.
 

coz1

GunslingAAR
29 Badges
May 16, 2002
14.602
2.657
hearthehurd.typepad.com
  • Victoria: Revolutions
  • Crusader Kings III
  • Imperator: Rome
  • Imperator: Rome Deluxe Edition
  • Crusader Kings II: Holy Fury
  • Crusader Kings II: Jade Dragon
  • PDXCon 2017 Awards Winner
  • Crusader Kings II: Monks and Mystics
  • Crusader Kings II: Reapers Due
  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
  • Europa Universalis: Rome Collectors Edition
  • Europa Universalis III: Collection
  • 500k Club
  • 200k Club
  • Europa Universalis: Rome
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • For The Glory
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Deus Vult
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Crusader Kings II: Sunset Invasion
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Rajas of India
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
In my very first game this happened. I wrote my first piece of writing on the site about it (in blog section). For some strange reason, people will still be incredibly self-serving even if they not only 100 percent like you but are also your lover, married to you and benefit from you living. In my case my son who absolutely adored me, and told me so in a game mechanic, murdered me three days later. CKII just does this sometimes.
Which is why I fudge. ;)
 

coz1

GunslingAAR
29 Badges
May 16, 2002
14.602
2.657
hearthehurd.typepad.com
  • Victoria: Revolutions
  • Crusader Kings III
  • Imperator: Rome
  • Imperator: Rome Deluxe Edition
  • Crusader Kings II: Holy Fury
  • Crusader Kings II: Jade Dragon
  • PDXCon 2017 Awards Winner
  • Crusader Kings II: Monks and Mystics
  • Crusader Kings II: Reapers Due
  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
  • Europa Universalis: Rome Collectors Edition
  • Europa Universalis III: Collection
  • 500k Club
  • 200k Club
  • Europa Universalis: Rome
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • For The Glory
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Deus Vult
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Crusader Kings II: Sunset Invasion
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Rajas of India
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne

The Song of Wessex

* * *

Melun Castle - March 1340

The Prince entered the solar at Melun with some trepidation. He was not certain what he would find this time. Yet his grandfather had traveled across the channel and made progress to his second home. Once the summons arrived, Prince Arthur could not refuse. Told to bring his wife and daughter with him, he made haste from Chatillon and was given a warm greeting by the Emperor’s men. They were all given fine rooms and he had word that the Emperor wished to see him.

When he entered, he found Emperor Arthur at his cups and looking over maps. A quick bow and a cleared throat alerted his grandfather and the Emperor looked up with sharpness, “Good to see that you did not tarry, lad. I’m an old man now and I don’t have time to wait.”

Prince Arthur had little reply to that and only smiled, “Yet it is good to see you grand-papa.”

“Is it?” the elder Arthur looked up again with a raised brow.

“It is good that your age does not keep you from progress,” the Prince suggested further.

The Emperor grinned, “Never you worry about my age, lad. Now that I am back to health, I’ve the strength of ten men younger than me.”

Prince Arthur highly doubted that but gave nod, “Your energies do not wane.”

“No...they don’t,” the Emperor went back to his maps and said without looking up again, “Yet I do wonder at your energies, sir. Married now for some time and still only two daughters to show for it. Pray tell no thing plagues your wife Lady Maud of Hayles.”


The younger Arthur stood a bit taller, “She and I are both healthy and well, grand-papa. We do our part but blessings still do not come in that area, I am afraid.”

“Hmm!” the Emperor snorted as he perused his maps, “No thing wrong with a girl child. Your father and I both started with one. Yet our second was always a boy...always another Arthur. You’ll need to do better, lad.”

The Prince pressed, “Grand-papa...I have done all that you have asked of me. I have served my time...made good before the court...written to my mother in your cause. I have done much and more to prove to you that I am indeed loyal and true. I wish a son, but only God can provide that. There is little that I may do but lay with my wife and there is no shortage of that.”

Lifting both his drink and his eyes, the Emperor looked on his grandson for a moment with sharpness before softening, “Your correspondence with your mother has paid off handsomely...indeed. The support for your brother’s match to the Lady from Tours even more so. For some reason, she will listen to you and not me. Can’t for the life of me think why? Yet between you and the Lord Chancellor, she does seem to come round.”

“I made a promise,” the Prince replied, “And my previous actions were shameful. Both to myself and to my father. He that was so good at keeping his promise. I let him down...and I do not plan to do so ever again.”

Emperor Arthur turned to refresh his drink before muttering, “He didn’t keep all of his promises.”

“Pardon, grand-papa?” the Prince questioned his hearing.

With a wave of the hand, the elder Arthur turned back, “So now here we are...you and me...back together again as if no thing ever happened. And therefor I ask of you, lad...what is it that you want?”

“You called for me,” the Prince could not help a sigh, “It is surely your desire that is wanted and not mine.”

“And my desire...” the Emperor looked to his grandson with a stern eye, “...is to know what it is that you want?”

“Other than a son...” Prince Arthur answered, “...and to remain your heir in all things, including France...I suppose...to be useful?”

The aged Emperor moved to the window of the solar, “Your life and health is useful alone. What is asked regards your actions. You remain my heir as well as your mother’s to Scotland. Your daughter holds Lancaster well with the men that I send to her and I’ve made you the paramount Lord within France. Yet what will you do with all of that if I gave you freedom as well?”

“Until my time comes...” Prince Arthur stood taller again, “...I would wish to serve. As my father did before me. You made him King of England and he served well until his death. I would only wish to do the same.”

A low laughter came from Emperor Arthur as he turned with a grin, “You will have to wait for that. I don’t make the same mistake twice.”

“It was a mistake to make my father a King?” the Prince asked with some shock.

The elder Arthur moved to sit in front of the fire as he stared into the flames, “It is a mistake to put the cart before the horse, lad. Power should be earned and not given. Your father had all the makings of one that would make a good King...mayhap even an Emperor. It took him awhile...but he was very nearly there. Yet his rise was too swift...such that his fall could be no thing but tragic.”

“Then I would wish not to see that happen again,” Prince Arthur suggested quickly.

“There...next to you...” the Emperor held up a hand as he kept his gaze to the fire, “...what is it that you see?”

The Prince shifted and saw the map table, “It appears to be a map of the German Empire to the east.”

“This Luitpold...he considers himself both Holy and Roman...” Emperor Arthur replied without turning, “...the very heir to the Caesars of Rome. He wars with Byzantium as we speak. Can you say that he is wrong?”

“If I understand my history...” Prince Arthur began but the Emperor turned now with speed and a sharp eye.

“Can you say that he is wrong?!”

With a quick look to the map, the Prince answered, “Vast lands are held. Yet you have defeated him three times and have created your own Empire. The Holy Father sanctioned your elevation. So it seems not entirely Holy. And though it is large, you do hold a good amount that was once considered part of the Roman Empire.”

“I have defeated them three times...him only twice,” the elder Arthur turned back to the hearth, “Yet I think to have another chance.”

The Prince was not unaware of his grandfather’s lifelong goal, “Indeed...you hold claim to both Poitiers and Hainaut at the now. Surely more will come.”

With a slight struggle, the Emperor lifted from his chair and moved to the table. He replaced one map with the other and then pointed, “Now what do you see?”

“Is that Cornwall?” Prince Arthur questioned.

The elder Arthur gave nod, “Quite. The Lord Rodrigo there has decided to make claim against his vassal in Devon. Seeks to revoke it. What think you of that?”

“Lord Rodrigo is...loyal to you, grand-papa,” the Prince suggested, “I’m certain that he finds right reason to do so.”

“Do you know who is the Earl of Devon?” the Emperor asked with a stern eye.

Prince Arthur was caught off guard, “I...I think it to be cousin Nicholas...yes?”

“That is correct,” Emperor Arthur replied before drinking and then continued, “The son of our great Lord of Norfolk. His grandfather through his mother was once the Earl there and it has now fallen to him. The Earl is your age...and I willingly gave my permission to have him take up that place. So how loyal is this Lord of Cornwall?”

Trying to remember his studies, the Prince finally asked, “Is not Lord Rodrigo also married into our House? His wife...is she not also of Wessex? Of Northumberland?”

“There you go!” the grandfather slapped him on his back as he moved to refresh his drink, “Well done, lad. The Lady Anne...younger sister to the late Duchess of that place. Close affinity with our Lord Simon of Bedford and Gloucester who is father to the current Lord Alan of Northumberland.”

With a slight laugh, the Prince questioned, “I...am sorry, grand-papa. I am understanding the situation, but I’m not quite sure what you are asking of me?”

The elder Arthur turned back as he raised his wrinkled brow, “Presented with the situation...England and their Lords...the German and theirs. What would you do?”

“You wish my advice?!” the Prince was shocked.

Taking a swift step that belied his age, the Emperor went to his grandson and held firm, “I’ve no need of your advice. I wish to know what you would do in the situation...and why?”

Prince Arthur looked questioning once more but then turned again to the maps. He shifted them around and pulled the one of the German Empire back. He squinted and then asked, “We remain under truce...do we not?”

“With Luitpold...yes,” his grandfather answered.

“And so...that is right out...isn’t it?” the Prince looked up with question.

Emperor Arthur gave a curt nod, “Sadly...yes.”

“So then it is down to which House we favor,” the Prince switched maps again, “A cousin of one or a cousin of the other.”

The Emperor looked over his shoulder, “And so...which would you favor?”

Prince Arthur studied the map some more and considered it, “Cornwall is of Jimena...even if married to Wessex. Jimena still stands in Brittany as well as they war amongst themselves. Castile too...I think.”

“Go on,” the elder Arthur answered as he moved to the window to listen.

“And Lord Nicholas...” the Prince looked up quickly before glancing back to the map, “...the third of Norfolk. He was father’s friend...your friend...and our good cousin.”

The Emperor stared out the window, “His father Nico was my best friend as I was raised. I promised to care for his son.”

“Then I think, grand-papa...” the Prince finally stood tall, “...that there is little choice at all. If the Lord of Cornwall is loyal, he will show it in the peace. And he will show it by who he calls to his aid.”

“What makes you think he requires aid?” the Emperor asked with his eyes to the landscape outside.

The Prince was certain, “Because the crown will not allow such to happen to our good cousins!”

Emperor Arthur finally turned with a brief smile, “All of that was good, young Arturo. Until the last. While I dislike my nobles fighting with one another, I must stand above it all. I may decree, but I needs must have them think that they still hold good power. If I put forth a decree and they ignore it...what power is there in the crown? I’ve no wish to war against the Lords or people of this Empire. Yet I have chosen a side.”

“So...what is your question, grand-papa?” the Prince asked once more.

“The question of what you will do by action, lad,” Emperor Arthur looked plainly to his grandson, “This Earl of Devon is Nico’s grandson as you are mine. You hold a part to play in this just as I do. You are a great Lord of France. Your eldest daughter holds Lancaster. Your cousin Eadgar holds Munster in Ireland and is soon enough to age. I am willing to give you freedom...full freedom...if you prove yourself now.”

The Prince was shocked, “You would let me to war against Cornwall?!”

“I would let you come to the aid of your cousin,” Emperor Arthur answered, “A man that will someday be the Duke of Norfolk and is your own age. You will need men such as he, just as you will your cousin Eadgar in Ireland. Now is the time to build your coalition. Not against me. But for the ones that will assist you in your rule. The question remains...what will you do?”

The youngest Arthur was slightly put out, “You might have led with that.”

“I might have...” the Emperor showed a slight grin, “...yet then I could not have put you to the test. Your lessons are far from over, lad. And you will need them when someday you rule.”

 

Nikolai

Basileus Romaion
77 Badges
Jun 17, 2001
22.755
6.956
  • Europa Universalis IV: Pre-order
  • Europa Universalis: Rome
  • Semper Fi
  • Sengoku
  • Supreme Ruler: Cold War
  • Victoria 2
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
  • Victoria 2: Heart of Darkness
  • Rome: Vae Victis
  • 500k Club
  • Cities: Skylines
  • Crusader Kings II: Holy Knight (pre-order)
  • Europa Universalis III: Collection
  • Victoria: Revolutions
  • Europa Universalis: Rome Collectors Edition
  • Mount & Blade: Warband
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Pillars of Eternity
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Stellaris
  • Stellaris: Galaxy Edition
  • Stellaris: Galaxy Edition
  • Hearts of Iron IV Sign-up
  • Stellaris Sign-up
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
  • Victoria 3 Sign Up
  • Divine Wind
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Darkest Hour
  • Deus Vult
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Europa Universalis III: Chronicles
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Hearts of Iron II: Armageddon
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Europa Universalis IV: Conquest of Paradise
  • Europa Universalis IV: Call to arms event
  • For The Glory
  • For the Motherland
  • Hearts of Iron III
  • Heir to the Throne
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Magicka
  • March of the Eagles
Arthur the Younger has much to learn yet, but I like how I am seeing his father in him in his (new) relations to his grandpa. It promises well for the future. Then again, war holds danger... Would not do to lose another heir.
 

TheButterflyComposer

The Dark Lord Kelebek
54 Badges
Mar 4, 2016
8.196
14.696
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mare Nostrum
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
  • Victoria 2: Heart of Darkness
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Together for Victory
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Crusader Kings II: Horse Lords
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cossacks
  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Colonel
  • Crusader Kings II: Reapers Due
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rights of Man
  • Europa Universalis IV: Pre-order
  • Crusader Kings II: Monks and Mystics
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mandate of Heaven
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Death or Dishonor
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cradle of Civilization
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rule Britannia
  • Crusader Kings II: Holy Fury
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Prison Architect
  • Hearts of Iron IV: La Resistance
  • Crusader Kings III
  • Battle for Bosporus
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • Victoria 2
  • Victoria 3 Sign Up
  • Hearts of Iron IV: By Blood Alone
  • Hearts of Iron IV: No Step Back
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Crusader Kings II: Sunset Invasion
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: Rajas of India
  • Europa Universalis IV: Third Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: Jade Dragon
  • Darkest Hour
  • Europa Universalis IV: Art of War
  • Europa Universalis IV: Conquest of Paradise
  • Europa Universalis IV: Wealth of Nations
  • Europa Universalis IV: Call to arms event
  • For the Motherland
  • Hearts of Iron III
Something you rarely get chance to do in CKII is raise your heirs and educate them at the height of your powers and with lots of experience. So both Arthurs should jump at this oppurtunity because a prepared and well educated heir is a great advantage over the hre which cannot do such a thing.
 

stnylan

Compulsive CommentatAAR
127 Badges
Aug 1, 2002
37.167
4.191
  • 500k Club
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • March of the Eagles
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis IV: Res Publica
  • Victoria: Revolutions
  • Europa Universalis: Rome
  • Rome Gold
  • Semper Fi
  • Victoria 2
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
  • Victoria 2: Heart of Darkness
  • Rome: Vae Victis
  • Hearts of Iron III Collection
  • Cities: Skylines
  • Europa Universalis III: Collection
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • Europa Universalis IV: Pre-order
  • Europa Universalis: Rome Collectors Edition
  • Mount & Blade: Warband
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Crusader Kings II: Horse Lords
  • Cities: Skylines - After Dark
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cossacks
  • Hearts of Iron IV: No Step Back
  • Deus Vult
  • Hearts of Iron II: Armageddon
  • Cities in Motion
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: Rajas of India
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: Sunset Invasion
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Darkest Hour
  • Arsenal of Democracy
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Europa Universalis III: Chronicles
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Europa Universalis IV: Art of War
  • Europa Universalis IV: Conquest of Paradise
  • Europa Universalis IV: Wealth of Nations
  • Europa Universalis IV: Call to arms event
  • For The Glory
  • For the Motherland
  • Hearts of Iron III
I note that the Emperor's first urge is still to find fault, to moan about how the world is not as how he wishes it, in the matter of the Prince's children.

Not that I expected him to change. It is his chosen road, and one he cannot forsake now.
 

JabberJock14

General
31 Badges
Dec 3, 2015
1.788
1.374
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mare Nostrum
  • Europa Universalis IV: Res Publica
  • Europa Universalis IV: Wealth of Nations
  • Europa Universalis IV: Conquest of Paradise
  • Europa Universalis IV: Art of War
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Rajas of India
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: Holy Fury
  • Europa Universalis IV: Dharma
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rule Britannia
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cradle of Civilization
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mandate of Heaven
  • Crusader Kings II: Monks and Mystics
  • Europa Universalis 4: Emperor
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rights of Man
  • Crusader Kings II: Reapers Due
  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cossacks
  • Crusader Kings II: Horse Lords
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Europa Universalis IV: Third Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: Jade Dragon
Arthur I isn't wrong with his lessons here about building a loyal base from which to rule. He just can't help giving it in cantankerous fashion, though thanks to Arthur 2.5's plotting, it probably all the lad expects at this point.

I do question Arthur I's rationale that giving naming his son as his junior king had any impact in his death. Some of that is probably to scare off the younger Arthur from demanding it too soon, but I do think it also stems from a desire to control the world around him. Sometimes bad things happen that are beyond your control - Prince Arthur saw battle and could have died at any point before that. But old Arthur has to see everything as the end result of his actions - and that is not always the case.

Letting this prince run off and help his cousin is also technically letting him run the risk of injury or death and one wonders if Arthur I will again be lamenting giving someone too much, too soon, even if it is just the nature of the world he lives in.
 

TheButterflyComposer

The Dark Lord Kelebek
54 Badges
Mar 4, 2016
8.196
14.696
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mare Nostrum
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
  • Victoria 2: Heart of Darkness
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Together for Victory
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Crusader Kings II: Horse Lords
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cossacks
  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Colonel
  • Crusader Kings II: Reapers Due
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rights of Man
  • Europa Universalis IV: Pre-order
  • Crusader Kings II: Monks and Mystics
  • Europa Universalis IV: Mandate of Heaven
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Death or Dishonor
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cradle of Civilization
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Europa Universalis IV: Rule Britannia
  • Crusader Kings II: Holy Fury
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Prison Architect
  • Hearts of Iron IV: La Resistance
  • Crusader Kings III
  • Battle for Bosporus
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • Victoria 2
  • Victoria 3 Sign Up
  • Hearts of Iron IV: By Blood Alone
  • Hearts of Iron IV: No Step Back
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Crusader Kings II: Sunset Invasion
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: Rajas of India
  • Europa Universalis IV: Third Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: Jade Dragon
  • Darkest Hour
  • Europa Universalis IV: Art of War
  • Europa Universalis IV: Conquest of Paradise
  • Europa Universalis IV: Wealth of Nations
  • Europa Universalis IV: Call to arms event
  • For the Motherland
  • Hearts of Iron III
The Prince has to command men though, and win wars personally. The empire's too large for him to command every army and battle by himself when he runs it, but he still needs to establish himself as strong and capable. Not only for troop morale and public image, but so every lord of import within and without his realm will at the very least respect him.

Plus integrating with vassals now, building ip support and rapport is vital considering he already ruined his reputation in most eyes with his actions. If he wants to keep his grandfather's empire, he needs to

A) know Britannia like the back of his hand abd have it locked down in support of him so he can focus on France
B) be experienced and popular enough that any problems that do arise back home can be dealt with swiftly by someone else for the most part.
C) this is all in aim of allowing him freedom to focus all his attention on consolidating and rebuilding the french kingdom and fending off invasions on all sides for its land. Also the HRE will probably, unless strongly allied with for some reason) need repeated wars every decade or so to keep them far out of his business.
 

coz1

GunslingAAR
29 Badges
May 16, 2002
14.602
2.657
hearthehurd.typepad.com
  • Victoria: Revolutions
  • Crusader Kings III
  • Imperator: Rome
  • Imperator: Rome Deluxe Edition
  • Crusader Kings II: Holy Fury
  • Crusader Kings II: Jade Dragon
  • PDXCon 2017 Awards Winner
  • Crusader Kings II: Monks and Mystics
  • Crusader Kings II: Reapers Due
  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
  • Europa Universalis: Rome Collectors Edition
  • Europa Universalis III: Collection
  • 500k Club
  • 200k Club
  • Europa Universalis: Rome
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • For The Glory
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Deus Vult
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Crusader Kings II: Sunset Invasion
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Rajas of India
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
Fb-fb:

Arthur the Younger has much to learn yet, but I like how I am seeing his father in him in his (new) relations to his grandpa. It promises well for the future. Then again, war holds danger... Would not do to lose another heir.
While this Prince Arthur doesn't have quite the stats of his father or grandfather, but I've always presented him as bright. No genius (and too much into intrigue due to that stat) but has been given the best tutors, one assumes given where and who brought him up. I cannot say he has new relations with his grandfather as much as Emperor Arthur is trying yet another avenue to bring him round. Maybe it works...maybe it doesn't. And true - would not be good to lose another heir.

Something you rarely get chance to do in CKII is raise your heirs and educate them at the height of your powers and with lots of experience. So both Arthurs should jump at this oppurtunity because a prepared and well educated heir is a great advantage over the hre which cannot do such a thing.
As regards the HRE, true enough IRL, but I have found that it becomes near heredity way too early in CK2. If there is a change of House, it's usually due to a war. However, your larger point is true enough. That said, I really did not get a chance to raise this Prince Arthur as much as I would like. Once his father was granted Lancaster, the late Prince/King Arthur did all of that which is why I've tried to portray a bit of misunderstanding between Emperor and grandson. Obviously, the attempt at murder does not help (even if the Prince's part in it was completely made up.)

I note that the Emperor's first urge is still to find fault, to moan about how the world is not as how he wishes it, in the matter of the Prince's children.

Not that I expected him to change. It is his chosen road, and one he cannot forsake now.
Of course it is. :D It certainly remains a very important aspect of the Prince's role, but Emperor Arthur cannot help but needle a bit. Call it a residual of his bitterness after the attempted assassination. Forgiven but not forgotten.

Arthur I isn't wrong with his lessons here about building a loyal base from which to rule. He just can't help giving it in cantankerous fashion, though thanks to Arthur 2.5's plotting, it probably all the lad expects at this point.

I do question Arthur I's rationale that giving naming his son as his junior king had any impact in his death. Some of that is probably to scare off the younger Arthur from demanding it too soon, but I do think it also stems from a desire to control the world around him. Sometimes bad things happen that are beyond your control - Prince Arthur saw battle and could have died at any point before that. But old Arthur has to see everything as the end result of his actions - and that is not always the case.

Letting this prince run off and help his cousin is also technically letting him run the risk of injury or death and one wonders if Arthur I will again be lamenting giving someone too much, too soon, even if it is just the nature of the world he lives in.
If I have tried to do one thing with Arthur as character, it is that he assumes everything is always about him. Victory and success? Of course it was him. Fault and loss...well, someone else's fault, but still about him nonetheless. Also, indeed true - he wishes to control everything and hates it when events go beyond that ability. The older he gets, the more certain he becomes. Right or wrong.

The Prince has to command men though, and win wars personally. The empire's too large for him to command every army and battle by himself when he runs it, but he still needs to establish himself as strong and capable. Not only for troop morale and public image, but so every lord of import within and without his realm will at the very least respect him.

Plus integrating with vassals now, building ip support and rapport is vital considering he already ruined his reputation in most eyes with his actions. If he wants to keep his grandfather's empire, he needs to

A) know Britannia like the back of his hand abd have it locked down in support of him so he can focus on France
B) be experienced and popular enough that any problems that do arise back home can be dealt with swiftly by someone else for the most part.
C) this is all in aim of allowing him freedom to focus all his attention on consolidating and rebuilding the french kingdom and fending off invasions on all sides for its land. Also the HRE will probably, unless strongly allied with for some reason) need repeated wars every decade or so to keep them far out of his business.
I'm pleased you pulled that from the scene because I did want the Emperor trying to impart this message to his grandson. Especially after what many already assume to know about Prince Arthur, one assumes in this world. While everything you suggest above is technically correct, that is a tall order for this Prince. This next step is an attempt to start rectifying that.


To all - One aspect of the scene that has not been commented upon (which is perfectly fine given that it is a more technical side of it) is that I included a pretty full consideration of all of the hot points over the map between this scene and the last between Arthur and Randolph. More to that, this particular conflict that arises shows two different sides of Wessex, to a point. It shows how far the House has grown within the fabric of England and the Empire. The next scene was quite fun to write given that I explore some of those extended relationships within the House even if they are not or will not become major characters. After nearly three hundred years, the Rightful King has made good and then some. Perhaps too much. ;)

Look for the next scene tomorrow and on a work schedule update...guys, I am so close to a certain point that I wanted to reach when I began this, I can hardly believe it! Truly excited. :) Not the actual end, mind you, but that point where the timelines verge. :D My goal is to finish the writing of the story by the end of the year so this matches my previous efforts from the full saga in terms of time to write. Finishing the AAR itself? That will take me well into 2020, so no fear. And...I am planning on a pretty comprehensive epilogue to take us through the end of the game itself. Not entirely sure which way I will go with it, but you will find out what happens to this Empire after Arthur's reign is done.

As always, thank you every time for your excellent comments and readership. All of this before and after is due to your following this tale every step of the way. :cool:
 

Bullfilter

Old Boardgame Grognard
29 Badges
Aug 31, 2008
8.984
8.711
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Europa Universalis: Rome
  • Hearts of Iron III
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Cadet
  • Rome: Vae Victis
  • 500k Club
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Crusader Kings II: Horse Lords
  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Colonel
  • Crusader Kings II: Reapers Due
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Together for Victory
  • Crusader Kings II: Monks and Mystics
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Death or Dishonor
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Hearts of Iron IV: Expansion Pass
  • Rome Gold
  • Semper Fi
  • Hearts of Iron III Collection
  • Hearts of Iron III: Their Finest Hour
  • For the Motherland
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Crusader Kings II: Sunset Invasion
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Rajas of India
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
Coming in a bit late, but I did like the way the arguments for the next course of action were run through as a test of mettle. Emperor Arthur and his young apprentice ... with Sith, there is always an apprentice! Arthur reminds me more of Palpatine than Yoda: he’s no Jedi. ;) I hope he still remembers the tragic tale of Darth Plaguis - who had found the secret to unnatural long life. :D

In a way, maybe he doesn’t mind if the succession passes this latest Arthur by through misadventure. There is another ...
 

coz1

GunslingAAR
29 Badges
May 16, 2002
14.602
2.657
hearthehurd.typepad.com
  • Victoria: Revolutions
  • Crusader Kings III
  • Imperator: Rome
  • Imperator: Rome Deluxe Edition
  • Crusader Kings II: Holy Fury
  • Crusader Kings II: Jade Dragon
  • PDXCon 2017 Awards Winner
  • Crusader Kings II: Monks and Mystics
  • Crusader Kings II: Reapers Due
  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
  • Europa Universalis: Rome Collectors Edition
  • Europa Universalis III: Collection
  • 500k Club
  • 200k Club
  • Europa Universalis: Rome
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • For The Glory
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Deus Vult
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Crusader Kings II: Sunset Invasion
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Rajas of India
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
Coming in a bit late, but I did like the way the arguments for the next course of action were run through as a test of mettle. Emperor Arthur and his young apprentice ... with Sith, there is always an apprentice! Arthur reminds me more of Palpatine than Yoda: he’s no Jedi. ;) I hope he still remembers the tragic tale of Darth Plaguis - who had found the secret to unnatural long life. :D

In a way, maybe he doesn’t mind if the succession passes this latest Arthur by through misadventure. There is another ...
There was a similar scene some time back between Arthur and his son. Yes, always an apprentice and I do think Arthur would fit better with Palpatine. Yoda he is not. IN the end, however, he is somewhere between the dark side and the light. More dark, yes...but grey.
 

coz1

GunslingAAR
29 Badges
May 16, 2002
14.602
2.657
hearthehurd.typepad.com
  • Victoria: Revolutions
  • Crusader Kings III
  • Imperator: Rome
  • Imperator: Rome Deluxe Edition
  • Crusader Kings II: Holy Fury
  • Crusader Kings II: Jade Dragon
  • PDXCon 2017 Awards Winner
  • Crusader Kings II: Monks and Mystics
  • Crusader Kings II: Reapers Due
  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
  • Europa Universalis: Rome Collectors Edition
  • Europa Universalis III: Collection
  • 500k Club
  • 200k Club
  • Europa Universalis: Rome
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • For The Glory
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Deus Vult
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Crusader Kings II: Sunset Invasion
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Rajas of India
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne

The Song of Wessex

* * *

Lancaster, England - May 1340

When Prince Arthur arrived in Lancaster, he made his way straight to the main hall. Once he entered, his young daughter Matilda wasted no time in forgetting all protocol and jumped from her small chair to run into his arms, “Papa!!!”

Gregory of Ely was her chief adviser and rushed up behind, “My Lady!”

Though a man of forty, he was instantly cowed by the look from the twenty three year old Prince, “His Majesty may care for you, sir...but I do not know you. You will stand aside from my daughter and let me greet her as any father should!”

“Of course, my Lord Prince,” Gregory stepped back with a wary eye.

The young Duchess ignored it and peppered her father with questions, “How is mama? And little Maud? You have been gone a long time. What is this that have on your chin? What is France like? Will you stay long? I’ve so missed you, papa!!”

As her tiny arms wrapped around his neck, the Prince hugged back and smiled, “You grow so large, my precious angel. Your mama is well and she misses you very much!”

“I wish she could be here with me, papa,” Matilda answered him with sad little eyes, “I wish you could be here too.”

“Well I am here now, am I not?” he sat her down and bent to a knee to look her in the face, “Your great-grandpapa the Emperor has need of me, however. And what luck that it allows me to come and see you. Sweet little girl...I have missed you too.”

He kissed her cheek lovingly and she hugged his neck again, “I don’t know whatever for...but if it brings you to me then it must be a good thing.”

Gregory of Ely stood back at a distance, “The others are already here, my Lord Prince. If you are prepared, then I will call them for a meet.”

Prince Arthur looked up and then gestured for his man, “Sir Alfred...see to my things. Have this one here help you.”

The knight Alfred de Vere did as requested and followed Gregory as Prince Arthur swept his daughter into his arms once more and carried her to the solar for a quick bite and time alone with her.

As the two walked along, Gregory of Ely questioned, “I was not aware that His Majesty allowed such revered figures to travel with the Prince.”

“I know not why you think that I am revered, monsieur,” Sir Alfred replied as he looked ahead.

“Your wife, of course,” Gregory grinned as he answered, “I am told a direct descendant of Uhtræd the Bold and from Meissen in the Empire.”

“We live in The Empire now, monsieur!” Sir Alfred pushed past him with little other word.

An hour later, Prince Arthur returned to the hall to find a group of men. All of them respected and all of them in some way or other connected to the House of Wessex. It was Bishop Michael of Norwich that extended his greeting first, “Very well met indeed, my Lord Prince. Your reputation precedes you.”

With a questioning eye, Prince Arthur replied, “I hope more to my favor than I suspect.”

“Times of the past, cousin,” the Bishop smiled, “If His Majesty finds trust in you, then so do all of we. Allow me to make introductions.”

The older Earl of Tours stepped forward with a grin, “I’ve no need for an introduction. The lad’s brother married my daughter! I hope my Philippa is happy with young Reginald to Scotland.”

Earl Thurfrith was fifty seven and a man of Wessex through Lady Emma of Anjou and the Prince clasped his arm with favor, “If she writes as seldom as does my brother, then I think good things happen with their budding young family, my Lord.”

“Ha!” the old Earl laughed and Bishop Michael pointed to another.

“This, cousin, is Lord Earl Jocelyn of Leinster,” the Bishop gestured to a man near to the Prince’s own age, “He is married to Lady Sybilla who is daughter to my brother Lord Nicholas of Norfolk. When this trouble began, he was among the first to write in support.”

Prince Arthur was grateful as he clasped arms, “You found no trouble from your Lord Duke Richard for your travel, I trust?”

“Curse my uncle! It be my wife’s brother at risk, my Lord Prince,” Earl Jocelyn bowed his head, “If I did not come to his aid then I was like to be thrust from mine own bed.”

“Ha!” Earl Thurfrith laughed again.

The Prince grinned as well, “Whatever the reason, we are honored to have you join us in this endeavor, my Lord.”

When the Earl gave another bow, another figure emerged from behind him. Young and lanky, the boy was only fifteen but tall. The Bishop smiled as he stood behind the Prince, “And this is your cousin, my Prince...the Lord Duke Eadgar and son to the late Prince Eadgar in Munster.”

“Good cousin,” Prince Arthur smiled, “I had hoped that you would come. It is so odd that we have never met before.”

The young Eadgar was a near likeness of his father but had grown up in Ireland and had developed a slight brogue, “You keep your time to France, cousin. Me to Ireland. Lot of water in between.”

“Yet we do share one thing, don’t we?” the Prince smiled.

“Aye...that we do,” Eadgar answered, “An Emperor as grandfather.”

The Prince grinned, “I hope that this has worked better for you than it has for me.”

“Not here to judge, cousin...only to help,” the younger man replied with a sharp eye, “Yet you find freedom, d’ya not? What else would you ask of our grandpapa?”

“You are still young,” Prince Arthur answered quickly, “I’m happy for your soldiers...but are you prepared to lead them?”

Lord Eadgar smiled as he gestured behind him, “You’ve not met my Marshal...Sir William.”

The Prince looked up to spy a giant of a man. Fifty and lowborn, he showed the heartiness of a man much younger and arms and shoulders that could easily lift any man in that hall. The older knight gave bow, “I start their training young. My Lord has learned much.”

Bishop Michael gathered them together, “And so we are assembled. A fine group of men to lead this charge against Cornwall and their perfidious Lord.”

“Not quite yet,” the Prince answered him as he looked to the chamber doors and saw Alfred enter with two other figures, “This is another that I bring to the party. Along with my man Sir Alfred de Vere, here be two others than some of you may know well. Lord Eric of Gwynedd and his son, Adam.”

The Bishop knew him more than most, “My Lord Duke...what a pleasant surprise.”

“Though I be not of Wessex, my Lords,” Eric responded, “I am close with the Earl John and the Lord Chancellor. The good Prince wrote in hopes that I would join and what better day for an adventure. So much so that I bring my sixteen year old boy with me.”

Young Adam was not shy and took turns clasping arms with all around as the Prince looked to his men, “We are not quite finished building our coalition. I am told the Earl of Chester is due to arrive soon. And word even comes from Zaragoza.”

“I hope it so,” Bishop Michael replied, “My brother married another daughter to there. That one had better respond.”

“Ha!” Earl Thurfrith laughed again as he moved to pour some wine, “So, cousin...now that we are all nearly here...what is the plan?”

Prince Arthur gestured for a table set up in the hall that was covered in maps, “It is a delicate thing, my Lords. Many of us are of Wessex or connected. Either through marriage or loyalty...”

“Or both,” Earl Jocelyn answered as he sat and pulled a map to him, “A Lord grants an Earldom and then tries to take it back? And right under His Majesty’s nose? Unthinkable!”

Lord Eric sat alongside his young son, “He’s of Jimena. A long line of trouble there. Lord Rodrigo fought well in the last war with the Germans and now thinks too highly of himself.”

Young Lord Eadgar sat and nodded, “I know Jimena well. Same clan as that from Brittany. And their long bloody struggle is over. The Prince Felix won and has become King. He now threatens me to the south.”


“I’ve left behind enough for your mother’s protection,” Sir William suggested as he sat next to his Lord.

Bishop Michael found a concerned eye, “Surely you don’t think the Bretons would attack so soon after their long war?”

“Never put it past a Breton, cousin,” Earl Thurfrith returned with his drink.

The Prince looked to Eadgar, “There is indeed that risk, but what is of more trouble is our Lord Rodrigo himself. He holds a Wessex claim as well. His wife is daughter to the late Lord of Northumberland and aunt of the current Lord. His Majesty wishes not to become involved in this for he wishes it no larger than it already is.”

“Quite true,” Lord Eric spoke up, “If Simon of Bedford gets wind...he’ll bring Gloucester and Northumberland with him.”

Bishop Michael followed, “The very reason my brother cannot get involved. Even though it is his own son named Earl to Devon and like to lose it without our help...one great Lord is already part of it. We place four more between Gwynedd, Lancaster, Munster and Champagne. Add in Norfolk and Bedford’s relations...it presents chance for civil war.”

“Yet what we remain, my Lords...cousins...” the Prince looked to them all, “...are family. His Majesty has impressed upon me how important your father was to him, my Lord Bishop.”

Michael smiled proudly to the others, “Old chums from their schooling. Good friends indeed.”

“And what is more...” the Prince continued, “...is a show needed to put the Lord of Cornwall low as quickly as possible. That is why I have called you all here. That is why we cannot wait for Chester or Zaragoza. Between us, we far outnumber Cornwall yet Earl Nicholas is at his wits end. Time is of the essence and we must now move.”

Lord Eadgar looked to him with question, “Will you be bringing your own men from Champagne...cousin?”

“Nearly two thousand,” Alfred de Vere answered him with a slim eye.

The Prince turned to him as well, “Indeed, cousin...not only that, but I have called up my daughter’s men of Lancaster for the purpose.”

Earl Thurfrith looked on as he stood behind them, “Can you do that? Has not this Gregory of Ely some say here?”

“I’m not fearful of that man, cousin,” Prince Arthur turned to him before looking back to the others, “All told...and when we are complete...we will hold well over what Rodrigo in Cornwall can bring to bear. It must be swift...and we must be resolute.”

Eadgar looked to his cousin with a curious eye, “Are you sure you’re not doing this for your own pursuit?”

“Cousins!” Bishop Michael held hands to each of their arms, “Let us not find calumny yet.”

The Prince calmly looked to Eadgar, “We do this for family, cousin. I’ll remind you...you are third in line for the Empire. It is as good for you as it is for me...as it is for grandpapa.”

“Well...” Eadgar returned the gaze, “...we’ve both lost our fathers. What the hell...why not?”

Lord Eric tried to break through the royal blood and looked to them all, “So we are agreed, sirs? Move south posthaste and end this trouble for His Majesty and the realm?”

“Aye...of course!” Earl Jocelyn was quick to reply.

Bishop Michael was just as quick, “Aye.”

Earl Thurfrith drained his cup and slammed it to the table, “I’m getting too old for this...yet I say aye!”

“If cousin Eadgar has no more objections...” the Prince looked to him with a learned stern eye, “...then aye.”

Eadgar turned to his Sir William and winked before looking back to the others, “Aye. Let’s be done with the bastard. Quick and clean!”