[HomerSimpson]
Mmmmm..... Dialog.
[/HomerSimpson]
Ok, with that silliness out of the way, I will attempt to contribute what I can to the discussion.
Critics, writers, and arm-chair English folks go round and round about conveying information through dialog. On the one extreme, you have older forms of drama where everything is communicated through dialog. Since battles and violence were rarely depicted on stage (at least, in the good plays) until more recent drama and film (say Shakespeare, Marlowe, and Kid), we have messengers coming on to stage delivering lots of information in their speeches. It was through dialog, and only dialog, that the audience even knows what is going on. The other extreme would be lengthy narrative prose and poetry, where page after page is devoted to a description of a single forest. The Last of the Mohicans is a readily accessible example of this type of lengthy narrative in its first few chapters. Then you have everything in between, including some modern and post-modern works that really bend the boundary between the two with such devices as stream of consciousness.
But, for our purposes, how can we convey information through dialog? And what limitations are there to doing so? To begin with, we have to determine what is "natural" in dialog before proceeding further. When I sat down to write this post, I was fully prepared to do so; however, when listing literature in my brain to provide examples, it occurred to me that I have not been studying anyone who writes "natural" dialog (in the sense that we mean here). Shakespeare certianly does not. His dialog for his low-brow characters might be natural for his audience, but no one talks that way any more. Milton's Paradise Lost lacks this quality as well. Satan speaks like a great orator, and God has a boring feel to his speech which does not have the example we need. Joyce, Lawrence, Wolfe, and Stevenson (all of whom I have been reading of late) also have characters who do not speak in a way we would regard as natural, even though they may be speaking in an appropriate way for being a part of English (that is, United Kingdom) culture. (Except Joyce, who is doing his Irish thing.)
Another consideration is that we are a multi-national community writing for a multi-national audience. From talking with our various non-native English speaking forum members, it reminds me that what may be a natural pattern of speech for one part of our audience may not even make sense for another part. Those who learned good English from watching Flying Circus re-runs will have a slightly, but noticeably, different command of the English language than someone who grew up living in the rural South of the United States. Throwing our Canadians into this mix complicates this even further.
And let's not get into attempting to add historical flavor to the dialog...
This leaves us in the uncomfortable place of deciding how to make our dialog sound natural in the face of so much adversity. I can only offer a few guidelines, but I even feel ill at ease offering these. After all, my characters do not converse in a "natural" way, though their pattern of speech has become "normal" to my long-time readers. Let's see what we have.
It is also important to remember that in many cases, a writer may be doing something "wrong" in their dialog that is unique to them. Your problem with dialog, MrT, may have a completely different origin than mine or LD's. And it may require just sitting down with an installment, and saying the lines sans the narrative to pick out the problem. I'm afraid that being more specific would require a sit down with individual pieces and an indepth analysis.
With that long lecture on natural dialog out of the way, it is important to remember that dialog serves a more basic function than the communication of information. Dialog's primary purpose, I feel, is to give us a sense of character. You can learn alot about a character just by "listening" to them speak. Inner dialogs pull the curtain back even more, but I contend that when a character is speaking with another character, whatever the nature of those characters might be (robots, gods, peasants, Hannibal Lectors, etc.), we gain further insight into character. You might consider letting the narrative carry the burden of plot information and let the dialog just do character sorts of things.
Mmmmm..... Dialog.
[/HomerSimpson]
Ok, with that silliness out of the way, I will attempt to contribute what I can to the discussion.
Critics, writers, and arm-chair English folks go round and round about conveying information through dialog. On the one extreme, you have older forms of drama where everything is communicated through dialog. Since battles and violence were rarely depicted on stage (at least, in the good plays) until more recent drama and film (say Shakespeare, Marlowe, and Kid), we have messengers coming on to stage delivering lots of information in their speeches. It was through dialog, and only dialog, that the audience even knows what is going on. The other extreme would be lengthy narrative prose and poetry, where page after page is devoted to a description of a single forest. The Last of the Mohicans is a readily accessible example of this type of lengthy narrative in its first few chapters. Then you have everything in between, including some modern and post-modern works that really bend the boundary between the two with such devices as stream of consciousness.
But, for our purposes, how can we convey information through dialog? And what limitations are there to doing so? To begin with, we have to determine what is "natural" in dialog before proceeding further. When I sat down to write this post, I was fully prepared to do so; however, when listing literature in my brain to provide examples, it occurred to me that I have not been studying anyone who writes "natural" dialog (in the sense that we mean here). Shakespeare certianly does not. His dialog for his low-brow characters might be natural for his audience, but no one talks that way any more. Milton's Paradise Lost lacks this quality as well. Satan speaks like a great orator, and God has a boring feel to his speech which does not have the example we need. Joyce, Lawrence, Wolfe, and Stevenson (all of whom I have been reading of late) also have characters who do not speak in a way we would regard as natural, even though they may be speaking in an appropriate way for being a part of English (that is, United Kingdom) culture. (Except Joyce, who is doing his Irish thing.)
Another consideration is that we are a multi-national community writing for a multi-national audience. From talking with our various non-native English speaking forum members, it reminds me that what may be a natural pattern of speech for one part of our audience may not even make sense for another part. Those who learned good English from watching Flying Circus re-runs will have a slightly, but noticeably, different command of the English language than someone who grew up living in the rural South of the United States. Throwing our Canadians into this mix complicates this even further.
And let's not get into attempting to add historical flavor to the dialog...
This leaves us in the uncomfortable place of deciding how to make our dialog sound natural in the face of so much adversity. I can only offer a few guidelines, but I even feel ill at ease offering these. After all, my characters do not converse in a "natural" way, though their pattern of speech has become "normal" to my long-time readers. Let's see what we have.
Only have characters speak on a subject they should be speaking on: If the characters have no reason to mention something, then they shouldn't. Generals have little reason to mention the digging of latrines, and privates have no reason to discuss, in detail, the positions of the enemy. The corollary to this is that if need something mentioned in a scene that cannot be discussed by the characters in quesiton, then you need an "aside" of some sort with characters who can discuss it.
Make use of inner dialog: Most people rarely say everything they are thinking. If information needs to be conveyed, try having a character think it to themselves. Also, related to this, is the have an inner dialog regarding something in the past that the character is "remembering," but that reader has not encountered yet.
Tailor language to position in society: This is the rule I break the most. Have you characters speak in a way that conveys their position in society. Aristocrats should never use contractions, say "ummm," or other undignified speech (unless drunk). On the other hand, peasants should utilize bawdy humor, fragments, and uncertainty in speech. These techniques can be utilized without resorting to dialects, which are much more difficult to master.
It is also important to remember that in many cases, a writer may be doing something "wrong" in their dialog that is unique to them. Your problem with dialog, MrT, may have a completely different origin than mine or LD's. And it may require just sitting down with an installment, and saying the lines sans the narrative to pick out the problem. I'm afraid that being more specific would require a sit down with individual pieces and an indepth analysis.
With that long lecture on natural dialog out of the way, it is important to remember that dialog serves a more basic function than the communication of information. Dialog's primary purpose, I feel, is to give us a sense of character. You can learn alot about a character just by "listening" to them speak. Inner dialogs pull the curtain back even more, but I contend that when a character is speaking with another character, whatever the nature of those characters might be (robots, gods, peasants, Hannibal Lectors, etc.), we gain further insight into character. You might consider letting the narrative carry the burden of plot information and let the dialog just do character sorts of things.
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