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While creating a set of alternate dynasties for a fictional country, I encountered some bizarre occurrences. First, I set up the event that changed the dynasties. The event had three choices. Choice #1 was to keep the current monarchs (no changes). Choice #2 used the sleep monarch command to put all monarchs past a certain date in the monarch file to sleep, and the wake monarch command woke up a whole series of other monarchs. Choice #3 was similar to choice #2, but using a third alternative set of monarchs.

The problem was that when the event would run, and an alternate dynasty was chosen, the resulting monarchs were from both sets of monarchs. i.e. the monarchs put to sleep would appear alongside monarchs that were woken up. This created bizarre circumstances, for everytime one of these monarchs had their birth date, a new monarch would rise to the throne, only to be replaced in a few years with a monarch from the other lineage. Comedic, but not what I had in mind.

I thought this was just a problem with my event writing skills, until I noticed the same problem in alternate dynasties in historical events. Choosing the ultra-catholics in France resulted in similar things happening for the rest of the game. For a bit an alternate monarch would be on the throne, the Louis XIV would get on the throne, only to be taken off the throne after a few years by one of the alternate monarchs. Ditto with restoring the Stuarts in England after the Jacobite Rebellion and choosing the Habsburgs in the Carlos of Spain events.

I know the wake monarch command is being registered properly, for when you hover over the choice options in the dialog it tells you who is being put into power as alternate monarchs. I just dont get why the sleep monarch command seems to be behaving oddly.

Can someone please tell me what the heck is going on? Am I hallucinating, or is there a rational explanation I have missed?
 

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It's bugged. 1.05 fixes it. That is, 1.05 will fix some problems with slept events. But, in the historical monarch path, 1.05 includes at least one monarch that is not "dormant" - James III of England I think.

The key thing is that a "non-dormant" monarch will always come to power regardless of the end date of the current monarch, unless slept by an event. So, it is essential that the monarch files be set up correctly.
 

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Originally posted by State Machine

The key thing is that a "non-dormant" monarch will always come to power regardless of the end date of the current monarch, unless slept by an event. So, it is essential that the monarch files be set up correctly.

I've got this issue with Mantua. The alternate line of sucession conveniently was inherited by the real monarchs. This means that Ferdinando Carlo will be King either way (much like Henry VII). However, depending on which set of monarchs are in use he needs different start dates. Short of creating two Ferdinando Carlo's how can this be made to work? I haven't looked at the English files - how is it handled there?
 

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In answer to your question, Brock, I would just create to monarchs of the same name with different IDs.

Its related to something I had to do witm one of my custom monarch lists. I ended up duplicating entire monarch lists with minor tweaks just to satisfy one event that changed who was reigning as king. Copy and pasting, and then modifying the ID number was easy.

To all: Thanks for the response. Now I know to wait until 1.05 to mess around with alternate dynasties.
 

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I was afraid that was the answer.
 

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Originally posted by Isaac Brock


I've got this issue with Mantua. The alternate line of sucession conveniently was inherited by the real monarchs. This means that Ferdinando Carlo will be King either way (much like Henry VII). However, depending on which set of monarchs are in use he needs different start dates. Short of creating two Ferdinando Carlo's how can this be made to work? I haven't looked at the English files - how is it handled there?

Something I got from Doomie some time ago:

Another factoid you might be interested in: monarch start dates are quite ignored by the game. It only cares about death dates. So, if monarch X rules until 1490 and monarch Y rules from 1480 to 1520, monarch Y will appear in
1490. Dunno if this is any use to you, but sometimes it can be helpful to have overlapping non-dormant monarchs when scripting events.
 

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So I shouldn't have a problem after all.