Or, as I say, it's better to rule in Central Asia, than to serve the Russians.GrimPagan said:
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I hope you thrash the ruskies but be carful their partisans can almost as bad as china's when they want to. also please posta screenshot of the Great Persian EMpire
Grimpagan is right. It tends to get boring late in game. I actually thought about giving up the AAR because it became so easy. Yet, the biggest challenge lays ahead of us: The conquest of Russia.
There are two other countries involved, my satellite the Ottoman Empire, or rather what remains of it. And the Russians have their satellite, Bulgaria on their side.
I might be tempted to let Britain join my side, if Russia breaks through my defensive line and the Empire threatens to fall. Italy is a prime candidate for joining the Russians, while Austria can join my war (remember the screenshot of a Russian Dubrovnik). It may seem one sided, but the Russians have more as 400 divisions, while the number 2 (me) only has 250 divisions.
There are two other countries involved, my satellite the Ottoman Empire, or rather what remains of it. And the Russians have their satellite, Bulgaria on their side.
I might be tempted to let Britain join my side, if Russia breaks through my defensive line and the Empire threatens to fall. Italy is a prime candidate for joining the Russians, while Austria can join my war (remember the screenshot of a Russian Dubrovnik). It may seem one sided, but the Russians have more as 400 divisions, while the number 2 (me) only has 250 divisions.
LIfe must be hard for a nation with ONLY 250 divisions and i bet you atre more technoligiacally advanced too. now what are your plans if they break through your lines? any reserves you haven't mobilize?
Make or break. Interesting that this entire AAR you've effectively stood between two stools - oh I know you had a small war with the UK a while back, but Russia does not do small wars.
Whatever would happen , this war would definitely be very bloody .
How many lines of defenses do you have anyway?
If it's one , if one fort falls , then you are as good as dead .Or are you planning to lure the Russians into Persia interior ?( Stanlingard a decade early , but this time , played out in a persian city)
How many lines of defenses do you have anyway?
If it's one , if one fort falls , then you are as good as dead .Or are you planning to lure the Russians into Persia interior ?( Stanlingard a decade early , but this time , played out in a persian city)
stnylan said:
The war against Britain was only because of circumstances. I wouldn't have declared war on her at that time. The thing with Russia is that you always have to go to total war to defeat them, it takes an effort, but I've learned valuable lessons in my last AAR.
Novea said:
I do have a second line of defence, but that one is actually more to reinforce the positions. So basicly I'm screwed if there is just one hole in my defense. As for my plan, you'll see later today.
The Fall of Central Asia and the start of Operation Encirclement
When war was declared on Russia, Persia was fighting against the odds. A smaller army, but better advanced, and a large border. Already it was decided that Russia should be fought in Central Asia, where the room for manoeuvre was greater. Russians filled Central Asia with nearly 2,5 million men, while Persian forces reached nearly 1million men.
Statistics of the armies in 1930
Central Asia is overrun, as planned
As the Persian war plans dictated, the Russians were to advance to the Persian-Afghan border. This would end the Russian advance, as it would take 5-1 odds to defeat the entrenched Persian forces, and this could only be achieved by weakening another part of the front. For the Persians the waiting had begun, but by April 25, the Persians launched their first attack on the Russian positions in Kabil. 236,000 Persian troops against nearly 100,000 Russian troops, at least so the battle started. During the battle nearly 250,000 Russian reinforcements arrived.
The Battle of Kabil
The 1st Battle of Kabil lasted for 3 months, causing hundreds of thousands of losses upon the Russians, while sustaining only thousands of losses themselves, before the Persians had to retreat. Less as 2 weeks later 306,000 troops from Persia once again marched to Kabil, where they defeated the Russians in less as 5 days. Once reinforcements had arrived, the liberators of Kabil marched to Khiva, which to the surprise of any one was abandoned by the Russians.
100,000 Russian soldiers encircled
Only one province remained to be taken for the operation to succeed: Merv. The Russians in Merv, numbering close to 70,000 men were no match for the 224,000 Persians advancing from Mashkad. Now nearly 100,000 Russian troops found themselves surrounded in Geok-Tepe. 176,000 Persian troops were sent there to eliminate them.
It was now October 1930, and already the Russians lost countless divisions. Their advance had stopped, and in western Central Asia, they suffered heavy defeats. So far the Tsar dismissed 11 generals and 3 field marshals for the failures of Kabil, Merv and Geok-Tepe.
The Shah has been successful so far, but how will the rest of the world react? That can prove decisive.
stnylan said:
Thanks to my Ottoman adventure I know how to defeat the Russians, and by the looks of it, I might be able to pull of a total victory.
Nikolai said:
The only country I can imagine taking advantage of the situation is Italy, and perhaps France. Although I'm sure that Britain, Prussia and Austria don't mind me destroying Russia.
Hmm doing well against the Russian Army but what about Partisans i mena i know they are no match for the Persian forces but they can still be a right pain in the ass
Fulcrumvale said:
Or Death! (For the Russians at least
)DukeLeo said:
True, partisans are a pain in the ass, especially certain areas. However one place where they don't bother you is in your own country. I own Central Asia btw. The fall back was a part of my master plan, which seems to work.
Wannabe Tatar said:
Ahh that explains it must try this ide of a fall back to destroy the enemy
DukeLeo said:
Falling back was done for several reason, one was to gain a better defendable position. I did take a huge gamble by launching an attack on Kabil and encircling Geok Tepe.
BTW, a sneak preview of what is to come:
Slaughter in Central Asia
On the 27th of October 316,000 troops engaged 140,000 Russian troops near Turtkul. The next goal for liberation was the Persian state of Bukhara. Despite Russian reinforcements, the Russians lost nearly 400,000 men during battle, while Persia lost nearly 150,000 men. With Turtkul once again in Persian hands, the fate of nearly 400,000 Russian troops in Bukhara and Karsi became desperate.
The Battle of Turtkul
As soon as reinforcements had arrived in Turtkul, the advance to Samarkhand started. 224,000 Persian troops attacked 110,000 Russian troops. Heavy reinforcements arrived from Bukhara and other Russian strongholds in the region. As casualties rose during the Battle of Samarkhand, with nearly 200,000 Russian losses and close to 110,000 Persian losses, the Persians finally withdrew on the 28th of December 1930.
The First Battle of Samarkhand
In January the offensive restarted with 316,000 troops engaging 70,000 Russian troops under the leadership of Yudin. Within one week the Russian forces were wiped out and the encirclement was complete, or at least that was the opinion of the Persians, the Russians had other plans. With 27 divisions arriving from Mazar I Sharif and Feyzabad in Karsi, the Russians seized this opportunity to launch an offensive against Mazar I Sharif.
Quickly 600,000 cavalry troops were sent to Mazar I Sharif to relieve the city from Russian occupation. After the Russian defeat in Afghanistan, 275,000 Russian troops were caught in Bukhara. On the 18th of March the biggest battle in Persian history commenced when 100 Persian divisions engaged the 275,000 Russians in Bukhara. Within a matter of days, 10 to be exact, the Russians were defeated and Bukhara was liberated.
274,000 Russian soldiers trapped
The situation in Central Asia, April 1931
Since the start of the war, a bit more as a year ago, the Russians had lost nearly 84 divisions, while the Persians had lost just 4 divisions, of which 3 were in the opening weeks of the war. The situation became desperate for the Russians. Despite occupying Persian land, there was no way they were going to win this war at this rate.
Statistics of the armies in April 1931 (note the difference since 1930)
That is pretty impressive progress. Parity is achieved, as near as makes no difference.
