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You are going to keep five divisons in Kra? Is there a reason you arent moving them north, to maybe Moulmein at least, to slow down the enemy even more? In my opnion that is a better plan because although you might be able to hold Kra and whatever is south of it with 5 dug in divisions, the Thai heartland and the southern flank of China would be wide open. If I were in your position, I would spread out the new divisions some in the hopes of stabilizing the front somewhat and keeping it slowed down overall.
 

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germanpeon said:
You are going to keep five divisons in Kra? Is there a reason you arent moving them north, to maybe Moulmein at least, to slow down the enemy even more? In my opnion that is a better plan because although you might be able to hold Kra and whatever is south of it with 5 dug in divisions, the Thai heartland and the southern flank of China would be wide open. If I were in your position, I would spread out the new divisions some in the hopes of stabilizing the front somewhat and keeping it slowed down overall.
I think the problem is move time. By the time the divisions move through the jungle to get there it would be too late and they would have to turn around and march all the way back to Kra, where they started, with no org and not dug in.
 

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Pesky Boers. :rolleyes:

Good job sinking that carrier though. :)
 

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Keep up the good work, Remble! :cool:
 

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Sokraates said:
Oh, please. Don't be ridiculous. If Paradox would have wanted to reffer to coal, they would have called the resource "coal". And not energy.

What exactly do you find ridiculous? Main source of energy in 1940's was coal used in coal power plants. Another important source of energy were hydro plants.

Germans synthetic fuel production depended on coal, which was about the only resource plentiful in the Reich. It's actually safe to say that the "energy" resource refers mainly to coal and some other, less important sources.

But hey, I am not taking it dead seriously ;)
 

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sbr said:
I think the problem is move time. By the time the divisions move through the jungle to get there it would be too late and they would have to turn around and march all the way back to Kra, where they started, with no org and not dug in.
i think, they could be able to move there fast enough, especially with support defence. imho, the line moulmein-nakhon sawan-chiang rai-shan states is the best one as it has a river along the whole line. a retreat behind this line will cost the river bonus and make things a lot more difficult. this line can also be only attacked from 1-2 provinces, so i think he could easily be able to defend against a 2,5:1 superiority, maybe even 3:1
 

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But hey, I am not taking it dead seriously ;)

If you read my post very carefully, you'll see that it wasn't meant serious. Besides, the image of 10 Japanese divisions filling batteries to carry them home is just too hilarious.

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I don't have DD(yet) but Lashio starts the '44 scenario as owned by UK and controlled by the Japanese in vanilla HOI2. Yunnan troops (Yunnanese? :D ) must have taken it from you and then the Nats gave it back to the UK after annexing Yunnan.

That's exactly what happened. Remble only wondered why National China gave Lashio back to the UK in the first place. They are not allied.

@ Remble: I think the US-strategy for Saipan is to have so many of their ships sunk that the island is surrounded by deadly reefs. One the IJN can no longer operate in the area, unescorted transports will have a field day.

Where's the new capital of National China located?
 

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Those South Africans must have been on a rebase mission.

Why the f*ck didn't the Germans put up a better fight? Because Japan is human-controlled? :rofl:
 

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Hopefully there are still some U-Boats left for Remble by the time the Reich is conquered.


Also, in HoI 1, if I am correct, energy WAS in fact reffered to as coal. :eek:
 

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sbr, Sokraates - Sokraates is correct. I knew how it happened I was just surprised that they handed over a province to a non-ally. Most strange. South Africans indeed and they are flying air superiority missions.

germanpeon, sbr, Manziel - Several reasons for keeping them in Kra.

1. It takes over a month to march to Moulmein and they don't have a month to do it. The marines can do it two to three weeks which is why they went to Thon Buri which is undefended and is a weak point should I lose Moulmein.

2. The British will definately attack Moulmein and soon so it cannot be defended. The only way I could get troops there in time would be to sail them there and I am not moving transport ships through that area with a British Battlefleet close by.

3. Moulmein is in the same air zone as the rest of the British forces which means that if I want to bomb them effectively I have to give them a province somewhere that is not in that air zone. I am making sure that province won't be Kra but will be a mountain in Siam instead.

4. I need to spread the British out which allowing them Moulmein will do. I can counter attack Moulmein if I want to as well because it is very likely that the British troops will advance piecemeal as they are mixed forces.

I am still very much trading space for time in Burma but the time limit is getting closer. China's death is also getting closer and as long as that happens before I need a lot more troops in Burma I am happy enough.

Maj. von Mauser - One more dead carrier is always welcome as long as its not one of mine :)

son of fire, BoemsiBoemsie - Thank you :)

I Killed Kenny - Game speed wise I play on below normal to make sure I don't miss anything. Actual time takes me roughly 2-3 hours per month depending on how many screenshots I take. I typically play one month ahead of the actual date in the AAR, although right now I have played to October 1st which is the actual AAR date after the next update.

Sokraates - Chinese capital is now in Luoyang which is the north eastern most province in the pocket.

Mangudai - Oh the South Africans weren't rebasing. They must be based at Yap though as its the only possible in range airfield. I know they were not rebasing because I got intercepted. All of my aircraft were on bombing missions and they wouldn't intercept anything.

The Germans didn't put up a better fight, not because of a human controlled Japan, but because of an AI controlled Germany :)

Maj. von Mauser - Whatever is left of the Kriegsmarine will be nice to have, if I can get it to Japan.

The mouse tells me its called Energy, which is basically a general name covering many things, two which have already been mentioned, hydro and coal. Similarly metal covers many types of metal and rare materials lots of different other things that don't fall under other names.

You could easily say Energy should be Coal, Metal should be Iron Ore and Rare Materials should be Rubber. These are just examples by the way :)

Update to follow ...
 

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0100 September 25th 1944.
Diplomatic Offices. Tokyo, Japan.

The latest news from Mamoru's overseas Ambassadors was not good, it was from Europe after all.​

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The Germans had managed to prevent a British break out from Italy but this merely allowed the United States to annex Croatia. Mamoru was beginning to have a lot of spare Ambassadors with nowhere to send them.​





0200 September 25th 1955.
BB Division 1 Flagship. IJN Yamashiro, Bangka Strait.

Yamamoto had moved his fleet to patrol the southern end of the Malacca Strait to try and intercept a British Submarine fleet that was frequenting the area. The attacks on Saipan had stopped for the moment but more news that had just arrived from Lt. General Hasebe confirmed that the Americans were far from finished with their invasion plans.

Hasebe was the garrison commander of forces on Palau.​

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Three American divisions had begun to disembark from Transport ships onto the beaches on Palau. There was no Naval Gunfire Support which indicated that they were not escorted. Hasebe was confident that he could hold these enemy troops off until Triye and his Submarines could locate the hostile fleet.​

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Further north Koga was moving back to Saipan to conduct repairs to his fleet when he encountered more Transport ships. The fact that at least one was damaged told him that these ships had already tried to land in the area once and were likely to contain troops. IJN Musashi and IJN Nagato would ensure that they did not return.​





0600 September 25th 1944.
North China Army Headquarters. Anshun, China.

Higashikuni had requested some interceptor support as his own headquarters was being bombed by enemy aircraft.​

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Mj. General Kusaka was rebased from Taiwan to deal with the problem. His previous naval patrol was taken over by a single interceptor squadron. The South African Tactical bomber squadron would not bother Higashikuni for some time.​





0900 September 25th 1944.
BB Division 1 Flagship. IJN Yamashiro, Bangka Strait.

The situation in Palau had deteriorated over the last few hours with additional enemy troops beginning to land on the island. There were now six divisions trying to dislodge Hasebe and the odds were not looking in his favour.​

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Rear Admiral Triye had managed to locate the Transport ships and, after a brief battle, forced them to abandon thier amphibious assault and withdraw to the south.​

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Yamamoto encountered the British Submarines in the Bangka Strait at 1500 hours but would fail to sink any of them.​

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At midnight a bigger problem arose as South African naval bombers began to bomb Nomura's Cruisers in Singapore. He sailed immediately for Saigon to put himself out of range of the bombers. All three of his Cruisers were damaged as interceptors were ordered to Singapore to hunt down the bombers. The air defences of Japan and the northern areas were becoming thin but there were still enough squadrons to continue patrols over all sea lanes around the major islands.

Yamamoto knew that the South African Air Force was just the tip of the iceberg. Once the Allies had totally removed Japan's allies from the War the amount of aircraft facing his own forces would increase considerably.​
 

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1700 September 26th 1944.
North China Army Headquarters. Anshun, China.

Progress was still good in China with almost no counter attacks from the Chinese forces in the area. This allowed Higashikuni to advance almost anywhere without fear of enemy activity.​

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Hoshinato's armour had arrived in Tianshui but would require several days rest before it could be used offensively. Mitsuru's infantry division was moving in to Ya'an behind the armour to occupy the province and maintain a solid line after it had captured Chengdu.

Higashikuni was watching for an opportunity to attack the new Chinese capital of Luoyang in the north east of the central Chinese pocket.​

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Communist Chinese troops had occupied Datong and were now going to suffer at the hands of Japan's Tactical bombers led by Air General Ichimaru. Their occupation of Datong would not last long as there were no other troops moving to reinforce the single division that had advanced.​

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The attack began as soon as the bombers were over the target area. Four divisions led by Mj. General Hederich would force the enemy troops to retreat in short order.​





2300 September 26th 1944.
BB Division 1 Flagship. IJN Yamashiro, Bangka Strait.

Lt. General Hasebe did not get much chance to rest his troops before he came under renewed attack from American forces.​

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Four of the original six divisions had returned to try again. Triye was waiting for them this time and intercepted the enemy fleet as soon as the invasion began.

Four hours later the American fleet withdrew without any losses, although several ships were badly damaged.​

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They returned on the 28th for another attempt, hoping that the Japanese defences had weakened. They had not. 12 Sensuikantai would sink the 92nd Transport Division during this latest attack and would hopefully ensure that no further attempts were made without significantly more naval support.​





2200 Septmeber 28th 1944.
North China Army Headquarters. Anshun, China.

General Itagaki's korp had rested for several days and was now capable of supporting an assault. The target was fairly obvious as it was the weak point in the Chinese defences.​

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Seven Japanese divisions, led by General Fujie from Enshi, attacked the three Chinese divisions in Yichang province. The capture of this province would allow Japanese forces to isolate almost any Chinese nationalist army still alive in the area with only one further attack. The battle would last for seven hours before a Japanese victory. Close Air Support aircraft would harass the defenders during the attack and for days afterwards.​

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One further advance occured before the end of September as General Yamada arrived in Lanzhou province in the north. He was ordered to continue his march north east towards Guyuan. Capturing this province would complete the encirclement of both Communist and Nationalist troops. Yamada's troops were tiring quickly but would march on regardless, some spoiling attacks would be required to prevent them being forced from Guyuan as soon as they arrived.​





1000 September 29th 1944.
BB Division 1 Flagship. IJN Yamashiro, Gaspar Strait.

Aerial reconnassance had detected a Transport fleet moving through the Gaspar Strait and Yamamoto ordered his fleet to intercept.​

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Two of the three British Transport Flotillas would be sunk during the encounter. The Battlecruiser IJN Kongo would sink one and the Battleship IJN Yamashiro the other. Yamamoto needed a third fleet operational but this could not happen until production became available to repair his damaged ships. Once the ships had been repaired Carrier Group C could be used to defend the Marianas in addition to BB Division 2.​
 

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Remble said:
Yamamoto knew that the South African Air Force was just the tip of the iceberg. Once the Allies had totally removed Japan's allies from the War the amount of aircraft facing his own forces would increase considerably.
I have to say I had a feeling of impending doom when I read this statement. Hope to see you prove me wrong. :)
 

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The Germans had managed to prevent a British break out from Italy but this merely allowed the United States to annex Croatia. Mamoru was beginning to have a lot of spare Ambassadors with nowhere to send them.

If Mamoru has a lot of spare Ambassadors, give them rifles and send them to Siam.
 

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OTOH Japan does not face the danger of a direct invasion of the home islands, US AI in vanilla game is too stupid to beat human player controling them. The problem is that the AI usually does not suffer of any moral doubts and uses nukes as it sees fit :)

Remble should protect the skies over Japan well, because if he fails Americans are gonna turn Japan into a real "Empire of the Rising Sun"... ;)
 

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Winner said:
OTOH Japan does not face the danger of a direct invasion of the home islands, US AI in vanilla game is too stupid to beat human player controling them. The problem is that the AI usually does not suffer of any moral doubts and uses nukes as it sees fit :)

Remble should protect the skies over Japan well, because if he fails Americans are gonna turn Japan into a real "Empire of the Rising Sun"... ;)

Except in the 1945 Doomsday scenario, the AI rarely uses nukes unless a player goes in and manually changes that. So the risk of Remble being nuked is next to if not zero.
 

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If there's one thing the AI's "good" at it's wasting transport ships. Frankly, the way it look now, the enemy navy won't be as big a problem as the enemy airforce could turn out to be.

Damn the bombs. :mad:

What happened to Yuling? It starts as an independent nation in Götterdämmerung, if my mind serves me well. The color looks like National China but your Militia is moving there from Hohhot and their arrow is green. First I thought that arrow could belong to a retreating Chinese division, but there are two green arrows and only two divisions in Hohhot.