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Wha - hay! Go Bulgaria! And I haven't seen AI Georgia do so well in a long time.

Well done in taking Astrakhan. Now at least you have some money.

I'm not sure if your critics realised, but thanks to your not taking Kalmuk (which I wouldn't have either - dirt poor, Mongol and Muslim - no thanks!), Russia can never conquer the Horde (at least until they overrun you, or the Kalmuks get bored and defect to someone). That gives Uncle Boris a permanent punch-bag for when he's feeling aggressive. :)

Speaking of Uncle Boris, I see he has no access to his new eastern provinces - would a defection during the Time of Troubles be too much to hope for?

Looking forward to seeing how ths turns out.
 

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Hey, do I see Poland-Lithuania with all sorts of red & black anarchist flags? Or is this the time you spoke of before when you got your hopes up and the Polish King took them all back? :confused:
 

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Don't forget that even though you have only four CB provinces (a mistake I will never allow myself to forgive) Podolia, Galicia, Volyn and Chernigov (Jedisan and Belgorod are debatable) should also belong to Ukraine.

I am not even mentioning "Ukraina".
 

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Hey, do I see Poland-Lithuania with all sorts of red & black anarchist flags? Or is this the time you spoke of before when you got your hopes up and the Polish King took them all back? :confused:

Right you are. Poland and Russia both were hit hard by revolts. Details to come. This is not the time I spoke of before, when Poland recovered their provinces just before they would have defected -- that was in the 1500s sometime. This time, the result was rather more remarkable. :eek:

Nalivayko, I will pay attention to Kiev (Ukraina) soon. But certain complications will arise, as you will see...
 

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A few map changes

(Narration by Shaula)

Uncle Boris and Uncle Paul lose their grip

In August 1603 Crimea yielded Kerch to Ukraine and we were at peace. Farther north, though, the Russians were not at peace at all as they entered years of convulsion and turmoil, a period which came to be known as the Time of Troubles. The boyars' foolish and greedy enslavement of their peasants as serfs only poured more fuel onto the sizzling fires of revolt which soon spread throughout Russia.

Early in 1604 Russia and Poland settled their war; with widespread revolts in both nations they quickly patched up their differences in order to concentrate on internal affairs. But it was too late for that. Outraged peasants burned town after town and both nations were in serious trouble by the end of the year.

The first crack appeared in July 1605. The Russians were unable to control Alga and the Nogai Khan was more than happy to relieve the Tsar of this burden. Nech warned us that this was only the beginning -- if Uncle Boris could not regain control of his lands soon, the Russians might be wracked with a huge wave of defections and lost territory.

So intent was Nech on monitoring the growing chaos within Russia that the news from Poland caught us by surprise. In October 1605 their government collapsed, admitting defeat to legions of rebels. Lithuania was reborn with five provinces, including Kiev (Ukraina province).

Two months later, it was Russia's turn. Their collapse restored control of most of their territory, but Pskov revolted as a new nation. Worse than that, at least for Uncle Boris, was the reappearance of Novgorod in several northwestern provinces including the great trade center.

Farther to the south, the Turks had had problems with rebels off and on for decades. In 1604 their turmoil brought good news for us when Kastamonu defected to our Georgian allies.

Nech's assistants needed years to draw more up to date maps reflecting these tumultuous changes. By 1611 they had completed an accurate map at last:

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Wars in the south

In November 1608 a phony war between Armenia and Ak Koyunlu was ended officially. The Ak Koyunluns, unwilling to grant leave to their soldiers, immediately attacked Georgia. Krempsky did not hesitate to honor our alliance call and Ukraine was at war once again. In January we appointed a new Hetman, Andriyevych, and he led our forces from Astrakhan to the relief of Daghestan, then under attack by Ak Koyunlu. The enemy was beaten and driven back to their capital, from where they regrouped and launched an attack on Trabzon in an attempt to avoid our army. But Andriyevych followed them, defeating their reinforcements in Kurdistan and then breaking their siege at Trabzon. At that point our Hetman calmly led our army in continuous raiding of Ak Koyunlu's home province of Kurdistan.

During this time our Crimean enemies had not been idle. They finally settled a war with Bulgaria at the end of 1608 and attacked Georgia soon thereafter. Since our Hetman was busy in the Caucasus, it was up to me to lead an attack against the hated Crimeans from our base in Kerch. By July 1609 both the Crimean army and navy had been soundly defeated and Azov was under siege. The Crimean capital fell to us a year later, at which point Crimea offered us 86 ducats to leave them alone. Krempsky agreeed to this since I would not even consider a naval invasion of Crimean owned Rumelia. Crimea was still formally at war with Georgia but our ally was at no risk since the Crimean army had been destroyed.

By February 1612 Ak Koyunlu was in trouble. Their entire army had been lost in vain attempts to dislodge Andriyevych's army from Kurdistan. Though we were not actually besieging this province, it was clear to our enemy that we had the resources to eliminate them if we chose to do so. Thus it was not surprising when Ak Koyunlu accepted Krempsky's demand of a 50 ducat indemnity. Just as with Crimea, Ak Koyunlu was still formally at war with Georgia, but Persia quickly moved in for the kill, annexing Ak Koyunlu the next year.

A strong hetman at last

As the year 1614 began, our latest bumbling hetman, Tyskinevych, was dismissed as a drunken fool. But for the first time in many years, a truly worthy candidate was at hand. His name was Petro Sagaydachny, born in 1592 as the son of former Hetman Kosynsky and Oxana Vishnevetskaya.

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Hetman Sagaydachny inspired our people to some notable achievements. First, our long neglected navy at last received armament that could actually inflict damage upon enemy ships (naval tech 9). About two years later, our Hetman pushed the army into adopting a more modern and effective set of tactics (land tech 13). Sagaydachny's charisma led a group of wealthy nobles to pledge a gift to the state in 1617.

Petro married Alexandra, a lovely young noble lady from Georgia. Their son Bogdan was born in 1615, and they had a pretty little daughter, Mariana, in 1617.

Expansion plans

With the nation stable and our leadership strong, we considered our options for expanding the realm. Our prime target was Kiev, the ancient capital. For many years it had been held by Poland, against whom we did not dare to consider a war of conquest. However, with their collapse of 1605 Lithuania had arisen anew, and their hold on Kiev was much weaker. The Lithuanians owned five provinces, but these were in two disconnected groups. Only three provinces formed the part including Kiev. We would have clear local superiority.

During the year 1617 I began to gather forces together along our western border, in Poltava and Krementjug. Krempsky was about to send a messenger to the Lithuanian capital with our declaration of war, but just then Nech ran up to us in great distress.

"Mayday! Mayday! Abort! Abort!"

"What do you mean? What on earth is the matter?"

"Lithuania is allied to Poland now!"

"How did that happen? I thought they were fighting each other!"

"I don't know! This must have been a monumental intelligence failure. I can't imagine how we missed their changed status with Poland, but we did. And now we have to stop before it's too late!"

Hetman Sagaydachny immediately agreed, and our messenger was recalled to Kharkov. Lithuania would have to wait.

Meanwhile, our Russian neighbors were hard at work trying to contain the damage from their Time of Troubles. Their government had fallen again the previous year, and though that ruined much of their investment, at least it did put a stop to all the revolts, if only for a moment. But by 1618 Uncle Boris's men had contained the rebels at last, and no longer was Russia convulsed in turmoil. Boris celebrated this victory by annexing their longtime ally, Suzdal. The Russians then turned their attention toward the east by declaring war on Sibir. Eventually this gained them the province of Kurgan, though not for four years.

This led us to reconsider our focus. We had lost the chance to take Alga to the Russians earlier, but luckily Nogai had reclaimed this province during the Russian revolts. With Russia occupied against Sibir, we figured this may be our last chance to take Alga before Uncle Boris moved in that direction again. Knowing that Nogai was in a large Asian alliance (Nogai, Uzbek, Khazak, Chagatai, Dulkadir, and Nubia), we spent some time building up more forces. By the end of 1620 we had an army of about 14 thousand at Astrakhan and a slightly smaller secondary army at Volgograd. Another 10 thousand men guarded Kaffa and Kerch, still prone to occasional revolts. With these forces in position Krempsky sent our declaration of war as the year 1621 began.

On the positive side, our army was much more advanced than any of our opponents. On the other hand, there were a lot more of them, and they had centuries of tradition of excellence in cavalry. The result, I am sorry to say, was a very difficult war in which thousands of brave young Ukrainians lost their lives. Losses among our enemies were also very high, and their men fought no less bravely than our own.

I led the army from Astrakhan, quickly defeating a small Nogai army at Alga. But then the enemy counterattacked with a much larger combined Nogai-Khazak force. My army was badly mauled and we were cut off from retreat. Only a small group of survivors followed me into Irgiz with the Khazaks harassing us every step of the way.

Hetman Sagaydachny's army led our secondary strike at Alga but they, too, met with defeat at the hands of a very large army from the Chagatai Khanate. The Chagatai followed our army back to Astrakhan as Sagaydachny retreated to Volgograd in order to regroup with additional reinforcements.

The months of June to August brought a turnaround. Our Hetman with his regrouped army crushed the Chagatai in Astrakhan and sent them reeling back to Alga. Sagaydachny pursued, while I led my small surviving army from the other side and caught the Nogai and Chagatai in a sandwich attack at Alga. At this point Krempsky persuaded the Chagatai to accept an honorable peace and exit the war.

In September Armenia declared war on Georgia. We in Ukraine honored our alliance of course. Fortunately very little fighting took place and we did not have to involve ourselves. Georgia made a small payment two years later and that was that.

In the Nogai territory Ukraine was becoming dominant on the battlefields after the Chagatai's exit from the war. Nogai counterattacks at Alga were not effective and this city fell to us at the end of 1621. Sagaydachny and I both led the siege, which progressed very well. But our attention was focused on the enemy fort and the Khazak border. We did not see the Crimean assassin who carefully sneaked across the Caspian and infiltrated our rear. Hetman Sagaydachny was murdered in December 1621, having reigned for only eight years. He left behind a grieving widow, two young children, and a nation in mourning.

Though we were furious with the Crimeans, we could not really hurt them because of their hold on Rumelia. So we took out our anger on the Nogai. The enemy capital at Emba was attacked, assaulted and captured in June 1622. Two months later Ust Urt met a similar fate, and Bouzatchi not long after that. Burning with rage against our enemies, we pressed very demanding terms upon them: ceding Alga and becoming our vassals, plus taking their treasury. Not surprisingly, the Nogai Khan angrily rejected these demands, holding out hope that his small force in Orsk could somehow turn the tide.

It was not to be. Orsk fell to my army in May 1623 and again Krempsky sent a harsh treaty for the Nogai Khan to sign. But he still refused. The next month, the Khan responded with a counteroffer: 140 ducats plus Alga. We agreed to this proposal, saving final humiliation of Nogai for another time.
 

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Hmm the Chagatai, how are they doing? Some day I will have to revisit them.
 

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Those crimeaians again!! Sometime you will have to get rid of them....maybe allying with bulgaria would help ;)
 

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Pesky Crimeans. Always there to mess up plans. Fortunate that Alga came up and now you have a chance of making an end run around Russia into the east. But for how long?
 

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jwolf said:
We did not see the Crimean assassin who carefully sneaked across the Caspian and infiltrated our rear. Hetman Sagaydachny was murdered in December 1621, having reigned for only eight years. He left behind a grieving widow, two young children, and a nation in mourning.

Hey I warned you about Crimea. :D Does this give you a CB against them?
Even if it does they aren't worth the trouble! ;)

Joe
 

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Nice to see all the comments. You guys really know how to flatter an author. :D

Kiev will be the main subject of the next chapter. I assure you that Nech has had agents working in Kiev for years. We'll see the results soon. ;)

You're right about the long line of provinces toward the east that Russia could attack. But it works the other way too. And I figured long before this that I really wouldn't be able to beat them if they seriously wanted to attack me anyway. So far Uncle Boris has had other nations to pick on. :)

I don't really know what the Chagatai have been up to. The map I can see in Central Asia shows their western boundary pretty much at the usual place. But at about this time they did beat China in a war and took one province.

Finally, there is the problem of what to do with those $@%*! Crimeans. The big problem here is that Crimea holds Rumelia and Azov so it is very awkward for one nation to attain a decisive victory against them. But if they ever lose Rumelia, they're toast. :mad:

All the times I've lost a Hetman to Crimean attacks, it's just my inventive way to give them a glorious exit when the monarch file turned over to a new guy. I took a page from Stroph's playbook and began to blame everything bad on one perennial enemy, Crimea in this case. It's fun -- doesn't really solve anything, but makes me feel good. :D

Next update to come very soon.
 

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The ancient capital

(Narration by Nech)

Action in the East

Thanks to Shaula and our late Hetman Sagaydachny, we had defeated Nogai and gained the province of Alga. At this point we needed only the Khazak province of Aralsk in order to hold the gateway to colonizable provinces and the fabled riches of Siberia. Our strategy was to wait for a good opportunity to strike at the Khazaks, only rushing into war if needed to thwart a land grab by Uncle Boris. For our part, we had to maintain constant vigilance at both Kerch and Alga in order to defend against misguided nationalists.

The Russians had concluded a war against Sibir in 1622, gaining Kurgan. Uncle Boris continued their push in that direction with another war against Sibir in 1628. At that time Sibir was without allies, but a year later they had recruited Nogai and the Khazaks to fight with them. But it was not enough; this war ended in 1632 with Sadrinsk and Kustanai going to the Russians.

The South

Armenia declared war on our ally Georgia in 1628, beginning with a massive attack at Daghestan which Shaula was unable to repulse. The year 1629 began with this province falling to Armenia as they moved their army back home in order to regroup before attacking another province. Shaula, now reinforced, moved into Daghestan and recovered this province for our ally, though it took nearly the whole of 1629.

With Armenia's main force besieging Trabzon, Shaula attacked their capital, annihilating a small group of recruits and looting anything of value. The Armenians didn't react to this until Trabzon fell, but by then it was too late for them to attack our army successfully. By October 1630 their army was utterly destroyed and Shaula calmly moved over to Trabzon in order to recapture this province for Georgia. A smaller Ukrainian force continued to raid Armenia.

Incredibly, in all this time the Georgians had not moved a single man in order to defend their territory, though they owned an army 40 thousand strong. By 1632 Shaula had finished the siege at Trabzon; with Georgia still not making any attempt at a defense Krempsky pressed Armenia for an indemnity and we left the war.

The West

All this time we were so concerned about events in Sibir and Georgia, I have to admit that the Polish front escaped our attention. So I was stunned to hear in 1630 not only that Poland and Lithuania were at war, but that in fact the Lithuanians were being thrashed. Poland forced their former allies to cede three provinces to them. That left Lithuania with just two: their capital at Volyn, and the province of Ukraina with the ancient capital of Kiev.

Compounding the Lithuanians' problems, their nobles chose this time to enact a strict set of regulations which brought their peasantry to a boiling rage. By 1632, after we had settled the war with Armenia, Kiev was held by rebels and the Lithuanians' army there was too small to conduct an effective siege of the fort. My agents reported significant unrest at Volyn also, but there the Lithuanians were able to maintain control. Unfortunately for them, their two provinces were separated by hostile Polish territory. So Lithuania did not control Kiev and had no way to regain control short of defeating Poland in a war, and that did not appear very likely.

Operation Kiev

In view of Lithuania's crisis I advised Shaula and Krempsky that Kiev was likely to change their allegiance formally to Ukraine. My agents in Kiev assured me that the rebels were dominated by Ukrainian sympathizers, so we awaited news of Kiev's defection with confidence.

While we were waiting we conducted government business as usual. Our longstanding marriage alliance with Georgia was renewed in 1635 with Mariana, the daughter of Petro Sagaydachny and Alexandra, marrying into the Georgian royal family. The next year, Krempsky persuaded us to approve his plan of chartering a university in Kharkov. Though this came at great expense, necessitating yet another loan to be taken, it brought our level of innovation to a level matching that of any country in the world.

By 1637 Kiev remained held by the Ukrainian rebels but still owned by Lithuania. Shaula and Krempsky were getting impatient, and I was puzzled. It was Shaula who pinpointed the problem.

"I wonder how our friends in Kiev are going to get rid of that Lithuanian army there."

"That's it! Shaula, you solved it!" I said.

"So what is the answer?" asked Krempsky.

"It's simple, really. The Lithuanians know they don't have enough men to capture the city. But they certainly can block all exits and keep the rebels from publicy announcing our coup. We need to attack."

Shaula eagerly planned our army's attack, although he was less thrilled when he heard what was to be done next.

"We fight and then retreat back to Krementjug? Without even bothering to besiege the city?"

"Right. Remember, those are really our people in the city. We only have to fight off the Lithuanians, and my agents will take it from there."

And that's the way it happened. Krempsky sent a declaration of war to Volyn, for we in Ukraine had always claimed Kiev. Shaula's army quickly annihilated the 4000 Lithuanians there and pulled back. One month later Kiev was ours.

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In the map note the border between Alga and Aralsk (Ukraine and Khazakstan share the same color).
 

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Whee-hee! Time for some celebratory chicken! Ukraine is getting longer and longer. Are you wanting to colonize Siberia? But with such high innovation are you actually getting any colonists? And with regard to Rumelia, do the Crimeans have a huge army defending it? I seem to remember a while ago you mentioned you had soundly defeated the Crimean navy, that's all.
 

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Pretty sneaky plan with Kiev. Seemed to work out. Now, if you can just hold that line with Uncle Boris. The two of you seem to be having a horse race to the east. Looks like a photo finish right now, but how long will it stay that way. I suppose taking Samara out would make them a bit too angry, but it would cut their country in two. Just an idea.
 

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Yeah, I'm very interasted to know what will happen now... you have very little opportunities for expanding... Samara seems like a good choice, buy you'll have to be quick about it... first you've got to take Kalmuk, then wait the five years etc. and you must make sure that Russia doesn't capture it firtst... maybe even brake the truce or something.. Also, that gold income will really help you, IMO.
 

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Yeah go for the golden horde...take kulmuk.......break the treaty (if russia attack the GH) and volila a gold making prov.
 

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Or the interest could hurt him, if he really wanted gold he coulda taken same religion Armenia, Samaras probly Moslim by now.....
 

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Dear readers, you are all very perceptive. Those are good questions. Here are some answers.

Coz1's description of a "photo finish" between Russia and Ukraine in the East turns out to be right on the money. That is the subject of the next chapter. :)

The GH was saved because of Kalmuk. It's a classic standoff: if I take Kalmuk, I get the poor, crummy province and Russia gets the gold in Samara. And if the Russians take Kalmuk, I get the gold. So whoever moves first, loses. And for me, attacking without CB is already pushing the envelope. Breaking a truce is out of the question.

I was tempted to annex Armenia a couple of times. They certainly were a severe irritation. Being disconnected to Ukraine pushed me against it, though, to say nothing of their level 3 fortress.

Russia has military access through Ukraine. They asked for it sometime in the late 1500s and I wasn't about to say no. When Uncle Boris talks, Ukraine listens. :D

At this point in the game my net flow of colonists was negative. However, by going moderately naval, plus choosing the "free trade" option in a couple of those "merchants want tariffs" events, I was in position so that if I could take Aralsk, then the frontier bonus would give me a positive number of colonists even at max innovation.

Crimea, much like the GH, is saved because of their second province at Rumelia. Even if I could capture that, I would have to take a province I don't want in order to attack Crimea in a second war to annex them. Further, even if I thought that strategy would be OK, Crimea and Bulgaria got into a deadlocked war at about this time, with Bulgaria controlling Rumelia for decades but unable to cash that in for tangible gains at the peace table.

And that brings up something I'm a bit worried about. I don't know if it's this particular patch (first beta with 1.07, now no longer available I guess), or just a coincidence, but I am seeing far more pathological AI behavior than usual. Russia later in the 1600s got into a deadlocked war with the GH, quickly capturing Samara but not even trying to take Kalmuk, even though they have access through my territory. Georgia in several wars has just sat in their capital with a large army while AK or Armenia attacks their other provinces one by one. Spain kept declaring itself defender of the CRCs, something like 8 times in a decade. They couldn't possibly have lost the title that fast, could they? So they threw away thousands of ducats and went bankrupt multiple times.