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hmmm.

I'm just waiting for Sir Oswald to take advantage of the situation. He's got the connections w/Mussolini and Chamberlain needs political support from any corner.

GREAT UPDATE!
 

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I don't see Neville using outside powers to destroy the new party. But some external conflict would be just the ticket. Look what it did for dear old Maggie! Teetering on the edge of political destruction, Agentina invaids the Falklands. A political godsend!

I'll bet Neville goes home and prays to whatever God he believes in (probably Narcisus - though wasn't a God was he?) that Germany would invaid Some poor undeserving country.
 

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therev said:
Teetering on the edge of political destruction, Agentina invaids the Falklands. A political godsend!

Well, not quite, as her approval ratings were already beginning to climb before Galtieri made his giant leap.

Good update. The British National Unity Party is a bloody awful name, Sir H! Nevertheless, it could be worse - they might have opted for an empty corporate name like Consignia or Conservocorp. ;)
 

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Smashing update, Sir H! :cool: It's delightful to see Eden and his allies in open confrontation with Chamberlain.
 

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Another excellent update, Sir H!

You've definitely set the scene for some very uncertain (and interesting) times ahead.
 

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Vann the Red: Thanks. :)

Darks63: Hitler probably has more on his mind than a general election, what with Austria having been incorporated in his little empire.

Pershing: Sir Oswald would be best not to do anything rash, but stand for a seat in the presumably upcoming election. Of course the BUF might try something, but who would vote for a raving nut in a black shirt?

therev: I don't think Chamber is lucky enough for that to happen, and given the military situation, in the medium/long term it wouldn't be that great. Afterall, if the war was conducted badly, what happened in 1940, could be brought forward.

Allenby: It may be an awful name, but Eden and Co want to be the names of the party, not some faceless few behind a party name. ;)

cthulhu: Maybe even fisticuffs in the Commons. :nods:

angryclown: One can hope that they turn out for the better.

Jape: Thanks very much. :)

lifeless: Alot of people have alot to gain from this.
 

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Wow! Sorry to go back a step, Sir Humphrey, but... Referring to the Autumn Crisis.

Night of the Long Knives, indeed!

I have to admit, I don't know the details of how Chamberlain's cabinet came and went. How historical is that scene? I'm assuming it's not, but I'm not certain.

Very interesting -- and gutsy, frankly -- to, instead of asking your enemies to leave, to ask them to stay! It takes a great deal of courage to tell your friends to go away and leave you alone with everyone who opposes you. And it also takes a great deal of courage to stay for a fight when you're given the option to leave. I wonder how many who remain in the cabinet would really rather have left, or perhaps disagree with Chamberlain and just won't say.

And interesting that Churchill remains "undecided". Does that mean for truth, or is he simply keeping his options open (wisely)?

Great work, Sir H! My only request would be the text size... Good heaven, how do you read this stuff? ((rubs his bleary eyes)) :D

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Rensslaer: Well historically the cabinet was a mishmash of the national government parties, but this is AH, though I have read that Chamberlain didn't take any shit especially from the non Tory parties, and he was alot less amicable than old Stanley Baldwin. Altough a number of ministers did resign, it was over a period and for different reasons (Eden historically did resign over negotiations with Italy), others over Munich, and others because they just pissed about. Perhaps Churchill sees his future with the Conservative Party after Chamberlain is gone?
 

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London, 9th September 1937.

Eden lit the cigarette, the plume of faint blue tinted smoke wafted towards the ceiling. Woodbines were now the preferred cigarette, their heavy dank smoke filled the room in great swirling clouds. “I still have contacts in the Foreign Office. As soon as word comes through, we can plan our next move.” Eden said inhaling the thick smoke. “What about Winston and his cartel on the backbenches? What has he been up to?” Duff Cooper said, brushing the smoke away with a flutter of his hand. “The old man is holding out – apparently worried about the influence of our former labour friends. Personally old Winston is a lost cause, to stuck in his old ways, to old fashioned. A relic of the past. Harold (1) has tried to make inroads, but the old man has a ring of steel round his bunch. If Chamberlain goes, we have to move quickly, not that Winston has the numbers to make it to number ten.” Eden mused. “I wouldn't count out Winston, the old man still has a few tricks up his sleeve, parliament might be taken in by all the sentimental patriotic drivel, but the British people are in no mood for war, especially since their sons and fathers are already dying in Palestine and Ireland, let alone in the fields of France or the banks of the Rhine.” Duff Cooper said. “Its funny you bring that up Duff. When Neville comes back from Italy, treaty, agreement, alliance only god knows what else, it will have to be passed through parliament, something that will fail. If that fails, he will call an election to receive the mandate to pass it. Then we strike. How does 'Peace in Palestine' sound?” Eden postured.

“How do we achieve peace in Palestine?” Duff Cooper retorted. “Remember that old scheme of Malcolm's for Palestine? Before things ended abruptly, Prince Ali, one of Hussain's sons was already to dusted off and put on the throne, another repeat of Iraq and Transjordan. The mufti of Jerusalem was prepared to form a government of out of the Higher Arab Council (2) with a number of conditions on our behalf.” Eden laid out the grand scheme to his small audience. “Sounds very utterly compelling. Very digestible to the average person in the street.” Duff Cooper nodded. The jet black telephone bristled to life and Eden immediately placed the receiver against his ear. Evidently the other person was speaking fast and Eden hummed and verbally nodded. After a minute he placed the telephone down. “Gentlemen, the situation has developed in our favour. Our dear Prime Minister is returning from Rome the triumphant hero. Not that the commons will see it that way, we shall force the Prime Minister to keep his promise. We now have upon our shoulders a general election to fight.... and win.”

1 MacMillan, Chief Whip.
2 This body was in affect a council in Palestine that contained Christian and Sunni delegates, as well as leading noble families.
 

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“I wouldn't count out Winston, the old man still has a few tricks up his sleeve, parliament might be taken in by all the sentimental patriotic drivel, but the British people are in no mood for war, especially since their sons and fathers are already dying in Palestine and Ireland, let alone in the fields of France or the banks of the Rhine.”

The mood of the public must be getting quite vocal by now. Although I wonder how mush information they have been receiving via the press about these sorties into Ireland and Palestine (and Spain IIRC). Aren't these rather small actions by Britain? Maybe Winston will be able to create a patriotic fervor.... or maybe strike a deal to have Chamberlains treay passed and therefor no general election.... Hmmmm.....
 

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therev: Not even old Winston could save this, nor indeed he may abstain from voting. If anything Churchill's views on Italy are hardly proactive, but pragmatic political reality may say something. Spain is a quiet annoyance really, the front has stabilised and nothing much is happening.

cthulhu: Well, there is so much to do.... ;)
 

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London, 10th September 1937.

London was abuzz with activity; a special session of parliament had been called, and there was only one item on the agenda – Italy. For the first time in his life, Neville Chamberlain had travelled via the air – an experience that was not likely to be forgotten. The graceful Short S.23 Empire flying boat wafted down onto the calm water with the ropes being thrown to land at Hythe in Kent. Almost as soon as the door was thrown open, the flash bulbs illuminated the quay and the screams and yells of journalists rang out. Stepping down the gangway Neville Chamberlain, followed closely by Viscount Halifax the Foreign Secretary. Gathered around the quay, Chamberlain announced to those gathered “We have achieved what some said was impossible. We have achieved peace in Europe. We have made peace for the British Empire. If my honourable colleges in the House of Commons reject peace, then I have no choice but to ask His Majesty to dissolve parliament and I will call for a general election. I have here an agreement with Italy that will preserve the peace, and further the prosperity of the British Empire. Mr Eden would be wise not to oppose peace in Europe.” Chamberlain said as the crowd exploded with excitement.

The small convoy of jet black cars raced through the countryside top and tailed by a police escort. “You know something Edward we are most certainly going to loose the vote in the commons this afternoon.” Chamberlain mused as he lit a cigarette. “Surely all of this will have been for nothing Neville.” Replied Halifax. “This is the perfect excuse we need to call a general election. Eden cannot be ignored, nor can he be left to rot on the benches. He will be destroyed in this election. He stands for nothing, his joke of a party stands for nothing. We will destroy the bastard in the process.” Chamberlain said almost mockingly. Halifax sighed at the dramatics. “You seem a little apprehensive Edward.” Chamberlain purred. “Its not that Neville. Can we win a general election?” He said softly. “Without a doubt, without a doubt, there is no possibility that we can loose. A vote against us is a vote against peace.” Chamberlain chortled. If a general election were called, it would be dominated by foreign affairs. “We will say that Eden shall go down in history as responsible for an inevitably destructive war without doing anything to prevent it. The press will love that.” Chamberlain murmured as the car sped along the road. Soon to arrive in London, for a showdown that would become a landmark of the political scene in the 1930s.

The House of Commons was almost bursting at the seems with activity, members piled one after an other, and as the speaker commenced the session, there was an icy stare between Chamberlain and Eden. “Prime Minister.” The speaker said solemnly. “Right honourable members of the house. The promulgation of peace has been a government policy, and will remain rightly so. In order to maintain peace and prevent the catastrophic nature of war, we must face that in the interests of Britain, the nation of Italy must be courted. Regardless of the feelings towards Italy, this treaty which must be ratified, will prevent any European war. A vote against this treaty is a vote against peace. A vote for war and destruction. A vote for the end civilization.” Was Chamberlain's opening statement. For more than three hours, the heated debate swung back and fourth in the house, with Chamberlain and Eden exchanging heated views, with Labour reduced to the occasional remark between the two verbal warriors. Finally the call came and the house split.

It was nearing the early evening when Chamberlain emerged from Number Ten to the awaiting press. “I have only a short statement to make. The people of Great Britain will go to the polls three weeks from tomorrow. That is all.”
 

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So, parliament dissolved. :)

It would have been great if you had the time to write about the Italy debate - the enormity of the subject, one feels, deserved more than a single paragraph.

Nevertheless, I expect a gargantuan general election update soon. :D
 

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And now the gloves really come off! I sense the beginning of a knockdown drag out fight that is going to leave not a few bloody corpses in the benches of Parliament. All I can say is... bring it on! :D
 

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Nicely set scene, Sir H. I echo Allenby's thought, though. I'd like to have read more on the actual debate about Italy.

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The problem with Chamberlain is that you really can't fault his over riding foreign policy aim, peace. There are a great deal of excellent reasons to dislike about the man, reasons I regularly expound upon in this AAR come to think of it ;), but he was only trying to avoid war. I worry that this view may be shared by the country at large and Chamberlain's optomism is not totally groundless.

I also have a suspicion that both sides are wrong about Churchill, I think he and his faction may end up being the Kingmakers in the upcoming events.
 
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I do hope Eden doesn't balls this up. Chamberlain must go, and go quickly!