• We have updated our Community Code of Conduct. Please read through the new rules for the forum that are an integral part of Paradox Interactive’s User Agreement.

Jestor

King of Spades
28 Badges
Jun 24, 2004
1.414
48
  • Cities: Skylines
  • Crusader Kings III
  • Prison Architect
  • Crusader Kings II: Holy Fury
  • Shadowrun: Hong Kong
  • Shadowrun Returns
  • Crusader Kings II: Holy Fury Pre-order
  • Crusader Kings II: Jade Dragon
  • Crusader Kings Complete
  • Crusader Kings II: Monks and Mystics
  • Crusader Kings II: Reapers Due
  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
  • Crusader Kings II: Horse Lords
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Crusader Kings II
  • 500k Club
  • Victoria 2
  • Sengoku
  • Semper Fi
  • Hearts of Iron III
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Crusader Kings II: Sunset Invasion
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Rajas of India
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
Welcome to the land of the rich! Please enjoy your stay in our luxurious double digit proft income per month suite. :D
 
Aug 26, 2006
660
0
stnylan: Well they would have disappeared even sooner if not... bah, you'll see. You're right, Josip didn't get the speech impediment trait. Just lost some of his diplomacy skill, which he has plenty of, and ended up having an ugly smile. But I don't see him as a man that smiles a lot, so no serious harm. :) I'll edit the chapter to clarify this.

Jestor:Bah! I already had double digit income! Josip wasn't that poor! But still, a significant increase. :D

Belgian Fuhrer: Well, as mentioned in the following chapter, Venezia was bringing in 42 gold. And will try to keep up the (as you say) good work! :)

Jon Young: Ducats! We're in the ducats! We've got lots of ducats to repay the debt for paying the troops! Yay! ;)

Bonifacio: A really big boost, especially once the regiment recovers from the trashing I gave it. And a few teeth are a small price to pay for that. :D
 
Aug 26, 2006
660
0
Of The War's Aftermath

The Rise of Dalmatians


Part IV: Duke Josip the Treacherous
Chapter IX: Of The War's Aftermath





After ceding Venezia and Zadar to the Duchy of Dalmatia, the Republic of Venice was left with only the provinces of Naxos, Aushayts and Istria, the latter being its new capital. In order to stop someone else from taking advantage of their weakened position as well, the council of the excommunicated Marco di San Bonifazio pledged allegiance to the Holy Roman Emperor a couple of months afterwards.


At the end of the war, the treasury of the duchy of Dalmatia was 1200 gold ducats in debt. But the addition of the two new provinces increased the monthly profit to 78 ducats a month, with Venezia alone generating 42 in income. The dye-works in Split right at the end of the war, and the extensive road network in Lecce a year later would be the last things built in the duchy for a while. The watermills in Lecce and Foggia, and the windmills in Napoli would be sold during the year following the war, to expedite the repayment of the debt. The latter province would also loose its harbor to a fire.



The debt would surely have been repaid sooner if the duke hadn't been faced with various demands from his courtiers. His late father's second wife, the spymistress Laura, wanted a reward for her prestige and skills, and paying her fairly meant giving her a substantial amount of money.

4091.jpg


Tvrtko Jr. of Zachlumia also made the duke reach deep into his pocket. After the end of the war he quickly grew tired of sitting around idly and told as much to Josip. Not wishing to loose this capable man, the duke decided to buy him some patience.

4092.jpg



Although duke Josip now had a tarnished reputation, due to the declaration of war on his ally and the subsequent capture of two provinces, still there were people wanting to sign an alliance with him. The counts of Varazdin and Steirmark were the first to come forward, by they were not deemed strong enough, and their offers were refused.



Josip's aunt Bernarda Marinovic and her daughter Gyorgy of Lukomorie, sister to steward Klaudija, arrived in Split in September of 1238 after their previous home in Yaik was captured by the horde. The duke also lost his only vassal around that time, as the Mongols took Kuban as well. Mislav Marinovic went with his wife to her family in Belgrade, where he soon became the diocese bishop, but he sent his children Zvonimir, Miroslav and Karolina to Split. The duke's brother Slavac finished his education in January of 1239. The stress he was under for several years had made it hard to concentrate on his studies, and he did not turn out to be a very competent commander.

4093.jpg



In the spring of that year news arrived from the east that Imre was faring well against the Horde, and had managed to recover much of the land lost to them. But the Mongols were also fighting other independent counts and beys in the area, and had managed to expand significantly. It seemed that this time they were there to stay. Other interesting events to the duke were the rebellion of the duke of Lothian, who had the count of Benevento as his vassal, against the Scottish king, and the capture of the independent county of Usora by the duchy of Croatia.

4094.jpg



The Dalmatian treasury finally recovered in September of 1239, 18 months after the end of the Venetian war.






 
Last edited:

kramari

Allegiance player
76 Badges
Dec 7, 2005
581
0
  • Victoria 2: Heart of Darkness
  • Heir to the Throne
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Leviathan: Warships
  • Magicka
  • March of the Eagles
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis IV: Res Publica
  • Rome Gold
  • Semper Fi
  • The Showdown Effect
  • Victoria 2
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
  • Hearts of Iron III: Their Finest Hour
  • Warlock: Master of the Arcane
  • War of the Roses
  • 500k Club
  • Cities: Skylines
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • Magicka: Wizard Wars Founder Wizard
  • Mount & Blade: Warband
  • Mount & Blade: With Fire and Sword
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Pillars of Eternity
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Stellaris: Ancient Relics
  • Deus Vult
  • Cities in Motion
  • Cities in Motion 2
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: Rajas of India
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: Sunset Invasion
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Darkest Hour
  • Arsenal of Democracy
  • Dungeonland
  • East India Company Collection
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Divine Wind
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Europa Universalis IV: Art of War
  • Europa Universalis IV: Conquest of Paradise
  • Europa Universalis IV: Wealth of Nations
  • For the Motherland
Wow, great progress you made. Hopefully Mongols won't give you much trouble.
 

Dhimmi

ShopAAR
94 Badges
Sep 30, 2005
542
2
  • Victoria 2: Heart of Darkness
  • Leviathan: Warships
  • Magicka
  • Majesty 2
  • March of the Eagles
  • Naval War: Arctic Circle
  • Europa Universalis IV: Res Publica
  • Victoria: Revolutions
  • Europa Universalis: Rome
  • Rome Gold
  • Sengoku
  • Victoria 2
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
  • Lead and Gold
  • Rome: Vae Victis
  • Warlock: Master of the Arcane
  • 500k Club
  • Cities: Skylines
  • Cities: Skylines Deluxe Edition
  • Europa Universalis III: Collection
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • Europa Universalis IV: Pre-order
  • Pride of Nations
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Pillars of Eternity
  • Stellaris: Necroids
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Cities in Motion
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: Rajas of India
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: Sunset Invasion
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Diplomacy
  • East India Company Collection
  • Ancient Space
  • Europa Universalis III: Chronicles
  • Divine Wind
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Europa Universalis IV: Art of War
  • Europa Universalis IV: Conquest of Paradise
  • Europa Universalis IV: Wealth of Nations
  • Europa Universalis IV: Call to arms event
  • For The Glory
  • Gettysburg
  • Hearts of Iron III
impressive :)

i only hope the mongols wont be able to expand to much

BTW i dont mind you stealing my ideas ( whats in for me ? ;) )
 

unmerged(48100)

Field Marshal
Aug 30, 2005
3.869
0
And again you write so fast I have to read three updates at once. Anyway, up to commenting. It's good to have Venice, that's true, but don't forget Zadar. It's another step to the Kingdom of Croatia, which you hopefully will succeed in creating before the Mongols come and knock on your door. Speaking of the Mongols, how are they doing?
 

Dhimmi

ShopAAR
94 Badges
Sep 30, 2005
542
2
  • Victoria 2: Heart of Darkness
  • Leviathan: Warships
  • Magicka
  • Majesty 2
  • March of the Eagles
  • Naval War: Arctic Circle
  • Europa Universalis IV: Res Publica
  • Victoria: Revolutions
  • Europa Universalis: Rome
  • Rome Gold
  • Sengoku
  • Victoria 2
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
  • Lead and Gold
  • Rome: Vae Victis
  • Warlock: Master of the Arcane
  • 500k Club
  • Cities: Skylines
  • Cities: Skylines Deluxe Edition
  • Europa Universalis III: Collection
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • Europa Universalis IV: Pre-order
  • Pride of Nations
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Pillars of Eternity
  • Stellaris: Necroids
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Cities in Motion
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: Rajas of India
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: Sunset Invasion
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Diplomacy
  • East India Company Collection
  • Ancient Space
  • Europa Universalis III: Chronicles
  • Divine Wind
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Europa Universalis IV: Art of War
  • Europa Universalis IV: Conquest of Paradise
  • Europa Universalis IV: Wealth of Nations
  • Europa Universalis IV: Call to arms event
  • For The Glory
  • Gettysburg
  • Hearts of Iron III
a bit tto well i fear reading from his posts :(
 
Aug 26, 2006
660
0
Wow. About 50 days from the start of the AAR, there's so far 250 posts in the thread (39 of which are the chapters) and 3000 views! Thank you all very much for reading and commenting!

If I decide to end the AAR at the first major "landmark", then I've covered about two thirds of the story. If I go on to where I played the game, then we are about halfway there I think. So still plenty of updates to go. :)

That last update ended the outline I've so far made. Tonight I'll try to write it to the end of Josip's reign, and I don't know if I will have the time to write and post a chapter. But maybe more people will be able to catch up because of that. :D


And now the feedback to feedback:

kramari: Yes, very good progress. We've come a long way from Goran charging into the breach in Lecce :) I've got a good buffer to the Mongols currently, no cause for concern yet.

Dhimmi: There's nothing in it for you, because I won't be able to create the custom title for a long time anyway. :D The Mongols will expand, but not so fast.

CSK: Lol, glad you caught up. :) I didn't think an update a day was so much, especially as they aren't that long. ;) And you are right about Zadar. That's why it was my main goal for the war, and not Venice. I now have 2 of the 6 required for the Croatian crown, so that yellow blob to the north should cover it. But a long way off still. I see everyone is wondering about the Mongols. I didn't have a good screenshot from the time of the last update. There will be one in the next few updates probably.
 

stnylan

Compulsive CommentatAAR
127 Badges
Aug 1, 2002
37.167
4.191
  • 500k Club
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • March of the Eagles
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis IV: Res Publica
  • Victoria: Revolutions
  • Europa Universalis: Rome
  • Rome Gold
  • Semper Fi
  • Victoria 2
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
  • Victoria 2: Heart of Darkness
  • Rome: Vae Victis
  • Hearts of Iron III Collection
  • Cities: Skylines
  • Europa Universalis III: Collection
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • Europa Universalis IV: Pre-order
  • Europa Universalis: Rome Collectors Edition
  • Mount & Blade: Warband
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Crusader Kings II: Horse Lords
  • Cities: Skylines - After Dark
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cossacks
  • Hearts of Iron IV: No Step Back
  • Deus Vult
  • Hearts of Iron II: Armageddon
  • Cities in Motion
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: Rajas of India
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: Sunset Invasion
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Darkest Hour
  • Arsenal of Democracy
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Europa Universalis III: Chronicles
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Europa Universalis IV: Art of War
  • Europa Universalis IV: Conquest of Paradise
  • Europa Universalis IV: Wealth of Nations
  • Europa Universalis IV: Call to arms event
  • For The Glory
  • For the Motherland
  • Hearts of Iron III
So the Horde look to be finally living up to their threat!

And financial opulence as well! Surely this is not Dalmatia were are talking about - the Duchy so broke that they keep hiring out the court jestor? :D
 
Aug 26, 2006
660
0
stnylan said:
So the Horde look to be finally living up to their threat!

Indeed they do.

And financial opulence as well! Surely this is not Dalmatia were are talking about - the Duchy so broke that they keep hiring out the court jestor? :D

Heh. The duchy didn't even have a jestor to hire out before. Couldn't afford to feed him. :D


The following update is a bit longer than usual. I've had some trouble breaking up the events into meaningful chapters.
 
Aug 26, 2006
660
0
Of Lots Of Things

The Rise of Dalmatians


Part IV: Duke Josip the Treacherous
Chapter X: Of Lots Of Things





With the debt being paid off, Josip started making plans for the future. His ultimate wish was to recreate the Kingdom of Croatia, with his biggest adversary in this being twelve year old Imre Frankopan, the duke of Croatia, who had the provinces of Veglia and Usora as his personal demesne, and the counts of Senj and Zachlumia as his vassals. Josip knew he would never be able to make a believable claim to the area if he doesn't increase his prestige significantly, and because of that he laid claim to the island of Naxos, still under Venice, thinking that he would one day try to expand to the Aegen Sea and create a ducal title there. But this would never come to pass, and this claim made in September of 1239 would only serve to decrease his standing and reputation even further.



The following month a project of draining the marshes and fens surrounding the city of Venezia was finished, and this made the province's economy rich. That month there was already enough money to start a new building project. The construction of a royal post began in Zadar, to further solidify the duke's rule over that area, and to increase the efficiency of the administration of his large demesne. In December the reconstruction of the mills sold during the financial crisis started in the Italian provinces, with the last one, the watermills in Foggia, being commissioned in the following March.



Around the start of the year 1240, the pope passed away and was replaced by Ulf, previously the bishop of Valais. Rumors would soon spread that he was under the influence of Gizella of Marmaros, the countess of Oleyshe. A series of personal tragedies struck the Marinovic family at that time, with Josip's grandmother, the venerable Adelaide of Blois, passing away at the age of 72. The duke's infant nephew Tvrtko, the son of marshal Nikola, also died, and another nephew, Seslav son of Slavac, fell ill again, but was fortunately as quick to recover as he was the first time.



In July of 1240, it was time to choose a formal education for the duke's five year old son Galasso. Josip decided that he would remain at court and there learn from the various advisors. The duke also felt that now was the time to stop providing him with new toys, and he encouraged him to play outside more, which resulted in Galasso becoming quite energetic.

4100.jpg



As his army was not at full strength because of the Venetian war, the duke decided to start building training grounds in all his provinces in order to speed up the training of recruits. The first ones, in Split and Reggio, were started in September. Even after this there were some ducats left in the duchy's treasury, but then the steward, Klaudija of Lukomorie, wife to Slavac Marinovic, complained to Josip that she was tired of serving a liege with so bad a reputation, and threatened to leave the court. The duke decided to buy her loyalty, giving her a substantial amount of money. Unfortunately, this made Klaudija grow somewhat lazy and lax in her duties, but she was still the most qualified person for the job that Josip had at his disposal.

4101.jpg


The ex-chancellor Kresimir of Split also complained of having no job about this time, to which the duke responded that he was free to find a position elsewhere. Kresimir then defected to the principality of Achaea.



In March of 1241 an offer of alliance came from the Kingdom of Aragorn and was accepted by duke Josip. King Ramiro d'Aragon was the last Christian King in Iberia, as the Portuguese crown had passed on to the French king, and the other Spanish kingdoms had been destroyed by the Moors.

4102.jpg



At about the same time the mills were finished in the Italian provinces, and the construction of training grounds in Lecce and Foggia and of a smithy in Napoli began. A couple of months later, as the monastery there was finished, another training ground was commissioned in Zadar.



In May Josip's wife Gyorgyi of Abauj recovered from the madness that had held her for over five years.

4103.jpg


The duke, who never held much love for her even before this condition began, had grown even more estranged from her during its duration, and he would never again visit her bedchamber, not seeing a reason to do so since he had an heir. Galasso was a very shy child, probably no wonder considering the lack of maternal influence during his infancy and early childhood, and Josip often helped him along in making friends.



Slavac Marinovic, the duke's youngest brother, who had been showing signs of stress for the past ten years, fell into a depression in December. In February of 1242 travelers brought news from the east that another strong Mongol tribe had appeared.

4104.jpg





 
Last edited:

unmerged(48100)

Field Marshal
Aug 30, 2005
3.869
0
And when you think the worst already has come, the Il-Khanate shows up to really make troubles. I have the feeling both will make troubles in the near future. And Galasso is quite a good ruler, although I fear he'll be cursed to fight the Mongols for all his life.
 

stnylan

Compulsive CommentatAAR
127 Badges
Aug 1, 2002
37.167
4.191
  • 500k Club
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • March of the Eagles
  • Europa Universalis III Complete
  • Europa Universalis IV: Res Publica
  • Victoria: Revolutions
  • Europa Universalis: Rome
  • Rome Gold
  • Semper Fi
  • Victoria 2
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
  • Victoria 2: Heart of Darkness
  • Rome: Vae Victis
  • Hearts of Iron III Collection
  • Cities: Skylines
  • Europa Universalis III: Collection
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • Europa Universalis IV: Pre-order
  • Europa Universalis: Rome Collectors Edition
  • Mount & Blade: Warband
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Europa Universalis IV: Common Sense
  • Crusader Kings II: Horse Lords
  • Cities: Skylines - After Dark
  • Europa Universalis IV: Cossacks
  • Hearts of Iron IV: No Step Back
  • Deus Vult
  • Hearts of Iron II: Armageddon
  • Cities in Motion
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: Rajas of India
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: Sunset Invasion
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Darkest Hour
  • Arsenal of Democracy
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Europa Universalis III: Chronicles
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Europa Universalis IV: Art of War
  • Europa Universalis IV: Conquest of Paradise
  • Europa Universalis IV: Wealth of Nations
  • Europa Universalis IV: Call to arms event
  • For The Glory
  • For the Motherland
  • Hearts of Iron III
As if one group of mongols was not enough!
 

Jestor

King of Spades
28 Badges
Jun 24, 2004
1.414
48
  • Cities: Skylines
  • Crusader Kings III
  • Prison Architect
  • Crusader Kings II: Holy Fury
  • Shadowrun: Hong Kong
  • Shadowrun Returns
  • Crusader Kings II: Holy Fury Pre-order
  • Crusader Kings II: Jade Dragon
  • Crusader Kings Complete
  • Crusader Kings II: Monks and Mystics
  • Crusader Kings II: Reapers Due
  • Crusader Kings II: Conclave
  • Crusader Kings II: Horse Lords
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Crusader Kings II
  • 500k Club
  • Victoria 2
  • Sengoku
  • Semper Fi
  • Hearts of Iron III
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Crusader Kings II: Sunset Invasion
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Rajas of India
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
Too bad you can't play the Mongol tribes against each other. :D
 

Dhimmi

ShopAAR
94 Badges
Sep 30, 2005
542
2
  • Victoria 2: Heart of Darkness
  • Leviathan: Warships
  • Magicka
  • Majesty 2
  • March of the Eagles
  • Naval War: Arctic Circle
  • Europa Universalis IV: Res Publica
  • Victoria: Revolutions
  • Europa Universalis: Rome
  • Rome Gold
  • Sengoku
  • Victoria 2
  • Victoria 2: A House Divided
  • Lead and Gold
  • Rome: Vae Victis
  • Warlock: Master of the Arcane
  • 500k Club
  • Cities: Skylines
  • Cities: Skylines Deluxe Edition
  • Europa Universalis III: Collection
  • Europa Universalis IV: El Dorado
  • Europa Universalis IV: Pre-order
  • Pride of Nations
  • Crusader Kings II: Way of Life
  • Pillars of Eternity
  • Stellaris: Necroids
  • Europa Universalis III
  • Cities in Motion
  • Crusader Kings II
  • Crusader Kings II: Charlemagne
  • Crusader Kings II: Legacy of Rome
  • Crusader Kings II: The Old Gods
  • Crusader Kings II: Rajas of India
  • Crusader Kings II: The Republic
  • Crusader Kings II: Sons of Abraham
  • Crusader Kings II: Sunset Invasion
  • Crusader Kings II: Sword of Islam
  • Diplomacy
  • East India Company Collection
  • Ancient Space
  • Europa Universalis III: Chronicles
  • Divine Wind
  • Europa Universalis IV
  • Europa Universalis IV: Art of War
  • Europa Universalis IV: Conquest of Paradise
  • Europa Universalis IV: Wealth of Nations
  • Europa Universalis IV: Call to arms event
  • For The Glory
  • Gettysburg
  • Hearts of Iron III
to bad the mongols do,t drink in CK as they did in real life :p