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Of Domagoj's Demise

The Rise of Dalmatians


Part III: Duke Domagoj the Faithful
Chapter XV: Of Domagoj's Demise





In March of 1225 the Pope passed away and Togodorio, previously the bishop of Munster, was selected to replace him. The most pious ruler in Christendom was Peder the duke of Skaelland, and the new Pope looked at him for guidance. A wedding that would later prove to be of great importance took place in April. The count of Usora Nikola, who owed his allegiance directly to the king since the demise of the Zagreb family, asked for the hand of Lovorka of Zachlumia, and Domagoj agreed to his proposal with the blessing of her father Mikac.



The biggest vassal of Hungary, Szilvezster of Csanad the duke of Pest, broke away from Imre in October. Although the duke had only one province, that of Csanad, in Hungary proper, he held vast tracts of land and had many vassals of his own in the eastern regions of the kingdom.

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In September the construction of watermills was started in Lecce, and in December the fishing wharf in Split was built. Seeing that the years of his benevolent rule had finally sufficiently increased the loyalty of the populace in the Italian provinces, the duke set about raising various taxes. He took care that the new rates would not breed unrest in any of his holdings, but still he managed to increase the total income of the duchy from 15 to almost 20 gold ducats a month. This provided enough funds to start the construction of a monastery in Split in September of the following year, just as the harbor in Foggia was finished.



In November of 1226 Domagoj's second son Zdeslav finished his training in the army, where he had matured into a tough soldier, and the duke made him replace the heretic marshal Tvrtko Kotromanic right away. A bride was immediately found for him as well. The duke's new daughter-in-law was Sitara of Varazdin who, like her brother Ala'i the count of Varazdin, had taken to Arabic mannerisms under the influence of her mother Zarifa de Poitou.

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As the year of 1227 began, Ala'i of Varazdin and Nikola of Usora had also broken their allegiance to the king, and the only parts of the kingdom of Croatia still under the Hungarian crown were the county of Zagreb and the duchy of Dalmatia. This did not sit well with most of the Dalmatian court, for they were tired of serving an incompetent lord like Imre, who was using the duchy's troops to crush the rebellion of his Hungarian vassals. But Domagoj still remained faithful to the Arpads and forbid all talk of breaking away. Finally, in late February, his sons Josip and Zdeslav, with the support of their grandmother Adelaide and most of the council, demanded that the duke either step down in favor of his heir, or declare war on Imre.

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Faced with so great an opposition, Domagoj decided to give up his power and wordly belongings and devote himself to a life of faith.

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So ended the reign of Domagoj Marinovic, who had consolidated his father Goran's gains and greatly increased the size of the duchy, as well as improved its financial power significantly. He left behind him four sons and one daughter, the eldest Josip being an extremely competent man, who would leave a great mark on the world.

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So we come to an end of third part of the story. Once again, an enormous amount of prestige went down the drain, as I though Domagoj would rule at least another decade and that I would be able to gather enough of it to get a claim on Zadar, or an Italian province that would go towards creating another ducal title. The only claim Josip inherited, the one on the county of Blois, Domagoj had gotten by being the second in the line of inheritance when Adelaide's father died, but I failed to mention it before as it would never play any significance in the story.

What happens if you refuse to abdicate? I never even checked. I was rather happy to get rid of Domagoj, for Josip was much more competent, and Domagoj's loyalty really wouldn't drop low enough in order for me to be able to break away from the Hungarians, and the time now seemed right for that.

Anyway, it will take me some time again to piece together Josip's rule from the screenshots, so the next update might be somewhat delayed. Especially since I seem to be loosing the enthusiasm for writing this, but I hope that will change.

One thing I'll disclose to you in advance is that, unlike all the other rulers before or after him, Josip is going to have quite a dull death.
 
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Why are you loosing your enthusiasm? You were the writer of the week! I will vote for this AAR in the Choice awards Q4. This really is a good AAR.
 

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Somehow I think the son will be much more inclined to break away than the father. Josip certainly has all the skills and Hungary is quick in falling apart. Surely the King has his hands full.

I hope you keep up with this as I am enjoying it greatly. :)
 

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What happens if you refuse to abdicate? I never even checked. I was rather happy to get rid of Domagoj, for Josip was much more competent, and Domagoj's loyalty really wouldn't drop low enough in order for me to be able to break away from the Hungarians, and the time now seemed right for that.

If you refuse, a courtier (who also is one of your heirs I believe) might die

Anyway, it will take me some time again to piece together Josip's rule from the screenshots, so the next update might be somewhat delayed. Especially since I seem to be loosing the enthusiasm for writing this, but I hope that will change

Ashame, but that can happen sometimes. If you end this AAR it will hopefully be a meaningfull and good or dramatic end.

But I hope you will continue of course
 
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kramari: Bah, I think I've been in a bit of a bad mood in general the past few days, and that's probably reflecting on my zeal for writing as well. Thank you for your support. :)

coz1: Josip has zero tolerance for the blundering Imre, so yeah, you can expect a breakaway very soon. And I'm glad to hear you're still enjoying this.

Veldmaarschalk: Thanks for the info. I guess if I had hovered the pointer over the other option I would have seen who the instigator of the coup was ingame, but I didn't even bother with it.

As I explained to Kramari, I hope my lack of enthusiasm is just a phase. In addition to my general mood, I think one of the factors is that it's now been over a month since I played CK at all (since I said I wouldn't play until I finish this) so this game isn't that fresh in my mind anymore, and the impressions it made on me have faded a bit. Also, I feel I have the skill for a work of better quality, and I'm feeling a bit constrained by the style of this AAR now.

However, as you suggest Veld, I won't end the AAR abruptly. If I end it before the time I had decided upon before, it will still be at a meaningful place in the story. (Un)fortunately, to reach that place, I think I have to cover a period of time greater than the one I have wrote about up until now. It might happen that I do start to play the game again, and start another AAR and write them simultaneously.

In any case, thank you all for reading and commenting. I'm really grateful to you people for making me feel good about my writing, and it is your support that makes me persist in it even if I feel like quitting. :)
 

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So we pass to the next generation, and perhaps one rather less inclined to bend the knee to the obvious tyrant and unworthy King that squats on Hungary's throne! ;)

Mood can be a tricky thing. I sometimes find it helpful to take a fortnight (or more) off.
 

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Take a few days off if you need to, and it can help sometimes just to play a random game where you just screw around a bit and don't bother writing an AAR on it. That's something I do sometimes, where I only play a few hours and then quit, never to play that game again. :)

Excellent ending to Dom's reign, and I'm really looking forward to seeing Josip expand, either in Italy or bringing Croatia to his sway and becoming the new King of Croatia.
 

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Take some time, if you need to. And if another work is itching to get out, go for it but be careful not to let this sit too long without update. In fact, if you truly wish to be done with it, devise a nifty end to wrap up the story thus far. That would certainly be more enjoyable than simple abandonment. And only do so if you are ready to begin another. ;)
 
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stnylan: Much less inclined! I'm affraid I might not return if I took a full fortnight off at this time, while I am still not properly addicted to writing, and I'm not going to risk that! :D

Jestor: Well I tried the random game advice yesterday, and it seemed to me even the game has lost some of it's appeal, or it's just that I don't enjoy it anymore if I don't think of it as a story for an AAR. Josip needs to break free first, and then we'll see about expansion!

coz1: I do have a couple of ideas for other AARs, but I think that for those I'll want to do some proper research and preparation. So it's not going to be anytime soon. As for wrapping up this AAR... well there were so many interesting events in this game, I just have to share them with you guys!


Well as I didn't go out on Saturday (because I hadn't recovered from Thursday and Friday) I wrote the outline for much of Josip's reign, and then I just had to write an update this morning. So it might all have been just a false alarm :D

Anyway, here it comes. Josip will have his nickname edited in at a later time, just like Domagoj did.
 
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Of The Battle Of Split

The Rise of Dalmatians


Part IV: Duke Josip the Treacherous
Chapter I: Of The Battle Of Split





When news of Josip taking his father's position reached the king, Imre dispatched an envoy to Split demanding that the young duke travels to Pest immediately and swears fealty. But Josip responded by saying that he was unwilling to travel with so many rebels roaming the kingdom. Unlike his father, he was not interested in remaining a part of Hungary, especially under so incompetent a king, and he just waited for the right moment to rebel.

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To fill the seat he had occupied for the last few years, Josip named Kresimir of Split, who had been the chancellor before the young duke came of age, and instructed him to search for a strong ally. The count of Vas first offered alliance, but was refused, and then in May of 1227 the Republic of Venice did the same, and that offer was accepted. Just a couple of days after the signing of the alliance, Josip felt the time was right to break away from Imre, and on May the 26th he declared war on the Kingdom of Hungary.

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Venice stayed out of the war, but thankfully so did Imre's ally, the king of Bulgaria. Josip summoned all his Italian regiments to Split, with the plan being to strike north fast, and try to capture Pest and Krakowskie while Imre was busy elsewhere, and thus force him to recognize Dalmatian independence. But still, an offer of peace was sent to the king immediately, asking him to recognize the status quo, which he refused to do.



Hearing of the young rebel duke, a famous writer arrived in Split in July, and offered to write a chronicle of the Marinovic family. Josip informed him that he was not interested in fame gained in such a way, and that the money requested for patronage would be better spent elsewhere.

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Indeed, even with the Split regiment still not called to arms, the supply of the army required 135 gold ducats a month, and that and the shipping cost across the Adriatic were quickly emptying the duchy's treasury.



In August the Italian forces arrived in Split, and the duke raised the Split regiment as well. As they were preparing to march north, reports came of a Hungarian army coming to Split, so Josip chose to delay the departure. A month later a force of some 2500 men under the leadership of the count of Kiev Gergerly of Tmutarakan came to the province, and discovered an army 9500 men strong waiting for them. In the ensuing skirmishing and the Battle of Split that followed, the king's forces were utterly destroyed, with only a few dozen men, their leader among them, fleeing into the mountains, while the Dalmatian forces suffered less then 400 casualties. But one of the wounded was Zdeslav, the duke's brother and marshal, who had been leading the Napoli regiment in the center.

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After this show of strength, a peace offer was sent to Imre again, but the king still stubbornly refused to relinquish his hold on Dalmatia. To be secure against a repeat of Hungarian incursions into his territory, Josip disbanded the Foggia regiment under the command of Tvrtko Kotromanic, the ex-marshal, with instruction to mobilize and repel any attacks on Split or the Italian holdings should they occur. With 7500 men under his command, Josip marched north in late October. His brother Zdeslav, although suffering from his wound, refused to be left behind and continued to command the Napoli forces.





 
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Tough war going on there, but great to see the Dalmatians with some backbone! ;)

I understand money considerations regarding the writer, but really this would have been an excellent time for a chronicle, establishing your family's right to rule, and to spread your propaganda throughout the lands of Hungary and Christendom :)
 

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Didn't think you had 9500 men. Just go and kick Imre's ass, he deserved it.
 

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to bad you dont have any claims on him as it would be the icing on the cake ;)

anyway pls dont abbadon this AAR its great
 

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The time is right! March on Pest with all your force and pay the financial costs later. At least you'll be free to move on your own.
 
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stnylan: It was only Domagoj that was spineless! :D And you are probably right about the chronicler, the 150 gold wouldn't have made much difference in the end, and the propaganda would have been useful. :)

kramari: Over 4000 of the troops are from Napoli! So once again, a big thank you to Andras. :D Unfortunately, as we all know Imre is a wuss, so he didn't show up in any of the battles.

Dhimmi: I don't want any land from him, just my freedom! ;) And I will not abandon the AAR, still have many more adventures of the Marinovic family to show you. :)

Belgian Fuhrer: Thank you! Long live Dalmatia indeed! :D

coz1: The march on Pest coming up, with the resulting fruitless squandering of money! ;)

Update in the making.
 
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Of Many More Battles

The Rise of Dalmatians


Part IV: Duke Josip the Treacherous
Chapter II: Of Many More Battles





In January of 1228 the Dalmatian forces were besieging the city of Krizevci. Four years previously it had been captured in Imre's name by the Split regiment led by the chancellor Kresimir, who was now in command of the Lecce forces, but the king had not forced the count to give up his titles, but rather kept the city garrisoned with his troops until things calm down. Now duke Josip aimed to liberate Krizevci and return it to its rightful owner.


During the siege he received reports that the treasury was already 500 gold ducats in debt and that the forestry in Split had been sold a few months previously. Josip decided to demand some funds from his vassals in the far east, a decision seen as arbitrary by many.

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Upon liberating Krizevci, the Dalmatian forces moved towards Pest. They met another Hungarian army in the province of Csanad and soundly defeated it in a battle in which chancellor Kresimir of Split displayed great bravery. As Josip and his troops closed in on Pest in early March, once again they met forces led by the count of Kiev, who had commanded the attack on Split. The Hungarians fled at first sight of the enemy, and in the ensuing chase 400 of them were killed, while only three Dalmatian light cavalrymen died. At the same time, Tvrtko Kotromanic descended on a 700 men strong army besieging Lecce with the 1400 men of the Foggia regiment and drove them back into the sea, but not before they wreaked much havoc in the province and looted the countryside.


In late April Pest fell into Josip's hands, and he once again sent a messenger to Imre, demanding a peace in which the Hungarian king would relinquish his claim on his title. But once again, Imre refused. The duke then moved his forces south and liberated the county of Csanad, owned by the rebel duke of Pest, and subsequently marched on Krakow. Upon hearing of the fall of Hungary's capital, the count of Zagreb also broke away from the kingdom, and so Imre lost his last hold on Croatia.



That city of Krakow was captured in October, but Pest had been retaken one month previously by Imre, and another peace offer was refused.

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Josip was unwilling to divide his troops and leave some of them to protect Krakow, so once again the whole army moved towards Pest, with the duke hoping that the king had no forces in the vicinity to take the Polish city back. During that march Zdeslav's wound aggravated him further and he succumbed to a disease.



January of 1229 saw a repeat of the Hungarian landing in Lecce, once again easily repulsed by Tvrtko, and the duke arriving in Pest and dispersing the troops he found in the province. The second siege of Pest was a more drawn out affair, with the Dalmatian forces being constantly harassed by small Hungarian regiments. These attacks caused a vital delay in capturing the city so that Krakow was lost just two weeks before Pest was captured again in early March.


It then became apparent to Josip that this aggressive tactic would bear no fruit. His treasury was now 1500 gold ducats in debt, the school in Split having also been sold, and the number of soldiers he had at his disposal now had been seriously reduced by battles and attrition, so that another march on Krakow was out of the question. After having another peace offer refused, the duke left a small garrison in Pest and set out for home with his army.





 
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The King is taking some convincing!

What is the state of his relations with his other vassals?
 

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That's what I would like to know too.
Is anyone else in war against Hungary?