Keeper of the Converters
- Feb 27, 2009
Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. And likewise, all AARs must come to an end. It was a fitting time to bring it to a close, and I look forward to the sequel. Thank you.
There were many ways to go to place Eadgar's passing but I decided that a peaceful death in bed the most fitting. In game he died a natural death and so...I would give him that. It is (and was) sudden but that is the nature of the thing. The realm is certainly set for uncertainty and we will look at that when next we look at these characters. (See more below)And so it ends for Eadgar. Quietly, and perhaps somewhat suddenly. (I honestly thought it was his wife that would be the one who would be passing on, but obviously, not the case!)
The realm appears set for uncertainty, as is the case whenever a change of rule occurs. I cannot take the Duchess' pronouncements seriously, of course. Uhtread knows his duty, and though he may be unhappy, cannot shirk his duty. (And it hardly protects his family anyway, as any King of England will look at them with suspicion)
I do wonder who the Bold Prince will be. Eadward? One of Uthread's sons? Perhaps even a nickname for Uthread himself? As sad as I am to see Eadgar's journey come to an end, especially given that his story is what got me to join the community here, I look forward to the next story, which hopefully arrives soon. In the meantime, congrats on an excellent tale @coz1 . Great stuff from beginning to (pseudo) end!
I admit that I struggled with the ending. I am still not certain that it is perfect. I like a nice tag line and don't know that I got it exactly. But this is how it needed to end. And it is a funny thing about the letter(s)...I originally wrote the one and then went to my trusty partner in crime (@Director) and he convinced me that that was not the letter to send. So I went back to the drawing board. He was right and so I wrote another. After this, I decided it would be best to include them both to give the reader an idea of where Eadward's head was in that moment. I hope it worked.Wham line right there. A better end I could not come up with though. He has dodged a lot of arrows and blades in his life.
Be glad that he didn't send that version...no one wants reminding of exactly how he got onto the throne in the first place.
So, a sequel hook and a new AAR? Interesting as ever. It's been a great read and a joy to comment on. And since his history is now known in full, I could even give a summary as the good proffesor. Looking forward it the new work whenever it begins.
Thank you so much, @Nikolai! You have been steadfast since the beginning and my own heartfelt thanks are to you for that! I will say that this one is over, but the story does continue. Look below for more on that.It's over? But, but we enjoyed it so much!
A heartfelt thanks for doing this story, @coz1 , it's been a pleasure to read! I look forward to the sequel, and hope you will post a link in here when the successor is started. As for this piece, it will surely stand as one of the major work of these forums.
Thank you, sir, and while I might wish to have had your regular comments as you read, I know that you have followed from pretty much the beginning. I truly appreciate your support with either eyes or voice and I hope you will follow along to the next when it comes.Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. And likewise, all AARs must come to an end. It was a fitting time to bring it to a close, and I look forward to the sequel. Thank you.
Ahhhh...sweet justice! Kidding you, Porter.That was well done. The suggestion for seeing how the Dukes responded to the news may have been mine but it was well done - the whole post was well done. We discussed ending the work with power and grace, and I think you found that.
At least poor not-very-sinful Eadgar had some joy at the last, and now he has peace forever.
As I mentioned to you...bittersweet the scene between Eadgar and his wife. Mayhap his death a friend to the King but for all else...At the end, death came as a friend.
Will comment more later.
though I fear Number 9 still has not forgiven some of my character beats.
As for a chance to look at Eadgar's reign from the studied Professor Monmouth...I look forward to it. Though I will say that some of the decisions made during his reign may not be truly studied until many years have passed and many Kings (or Queens) have reigned after him.
I don't know if this is one of the "major works of these forums" but I certainly had a great deal of fun writing it and was more than pleased at how it has been received.
Worry not about following regularly and congrats to you on a surely well earned vacation! I know well how real life can sap the time away and am more than happy that you were able to get to this tale when you had the chance, especially its ending. Thank you for your words and your support, even if Eadgar did a few things you did not like at all.This is the end of a great journey. I'm a bit sad but knowing there will be a sequel makes me eager to read it too.
This last chapter was really wonderful, the two letters, the reaction of each dukes, ...
Your AAR was a masterpiece, and I am glad I did not miss the train. Thank you for all this story. And see you for the 2nd part.
I'm sorry I was not the most regular follower the last few weeks (months). "Busy day" is becoming far too much frequent nowadays.
Rest assured I read every chapters of your story, and count me in for the next one. Maybe not at the start though, I have the luck to go on vacation for a week next saturday, I will be far away from my computer (and my work ).
Sweet victory!! A cookie is mine! Thank you for that Specialist and for being such a steadfast reader of this tale. Your comments have been some of my favorite moments while writing this. Always thought provoking and insightful! I am looking forward to the new beginning and I hope that you will follow along when the time comes.A quite fitting end for Eadgar and his reign -- and certainly one that sows the seeds of a new beginning.
@coz1, as a mark of my appreciation, I am going to do something I haven't done in a very long time:
In recognition and appreciation of your talent for writing, the complex and entertaining characters whom that talent has given life, your diligence in bringing this AAR to a successful and satisfying conclusion, and your years of standing as one of AARland's foremost authors, it is my pleasure to award you one of my signature Red Special Cookies ●. Should you wish to display this in your signature, you may use the following tag:
This will link directly to this post, which will serve as a "Proof of Authenticity" of the award.
Indeed, it is!
I must blame @Storey as always for the cliffhanger. Granted, I used the tagline "to be continued" for every post of my Into the West AAR written quite long ago but it was Joe Storey who elevated the cliffhanger into an art form. You may not be familiar with him but were you to seek out any one of his many tales written on this forum, I am certain that you will be more than pleased. I miss Joe and wish he were around these days because I think he would have enjoyed this tale and I would have very much enjoyed his always great comments.Appreciate the shout out coz! It was my pleasure to comment for the reasons I've stated before and it's always easy to engage with a well-written, in-depth story like this. And I understand your decision to continue in a new thread - 60+ pages is daunting for a new reader! I'm also glad that we will see the continuation up soon. After all, you did end the season on bit of a cliffhanger.
You cause me to blush with your compliments, but it means quite a lot coming from you. Of all people, your comments (and even occasional picked nits) have likely been the most important to me for your knowledge of the period and people of England at this time is rivaled only by @stnylan and @TheButterflyComposer. That we had similar works going caused me to find inspiration with your own words and I think made my work all the better for it. I truly thank you!Magnificent, magisterial, masterful and monumental. I really have not read such an excellent AAR. It inspired me with many ideas for my own and the dialogue and exposition was truly exceptional.
I really thought you ended it in the best possible way too: the cinematic, episodic ending really evoked the various reactions to the sad passing of a singular king in a way that reminded me of the best films. I did wonder right until the end whether Eadward would make a play for the crown but (so far) he seems to be cleaving to loyalty. I wonder how long that may last as the memory of his dead father fades though (think Richard III whose loyalty to his deceased brother soon translated into a power grab and usurpation...)
Truly well done for this story-it stands as testament to the power of writing and the hatful of awards and the multitude of comments bears testament to that.
On to the next one!
Market there may be, but you are absolutely right...that would indeed take a lifetime.I can always make it up
I mean, therotically you could make it to HOI with this series if you wanted to but if there's going to be 25-50 pages on each ruler and all their families it might take a while...
Not saying there isn't a market for huge AAR projects that literally will take a lifetime to complete though.
Not that these numbers really mean anything in the long reach of things, but this work is the third longest AAR in CKII history. View-wise, I am sitting on about page 4 or 5 all time for this subforum. This likely doesn't crack the top 100 in either category if we look to all of AARland. But...I did finish it and that is most important to me.Statistically speaking, they are correct. Especially as it's been put in the same ballpark as AARs five years old and three hundred pages long, and you finished yours.
First of all, I promise to get back to Empire as soon as I can. I have a lot of catching up to do. Rest assured that I will because I enjoy it immensely. And keep plugging along with that post count. I am a few hundred from 12,000 myself and that is after 15 years. Commenting in other works is always the way to go and I agree with you entirely - it can teach you so much about all of the things that you mentioned (though I am still having some trouble understanding the coding of CKII. I had EUII down pat.)On my way to 1000 already and it's mostly been on other people's stuff Saying that I've learnt a lot about writing, coding, picture formatting and web design from this project as well as talked to a bunch of interesting people about various ridiculously specific historical questions. And I havent been quite as prevalent on the forums since I came back home from Amsterdam but some great pieces have come out of all this (Creative writing especially has taken a massive boost-that's probably why I'm acing English at the moment), some of them even mine.
It's a good little-big thing we've got going on here.
Hmmm...which William, I wonder? Our current "bald" Prince, son of Charles? Or Earl William, brother to Robert of Normandy? Surely not the long dead Bastard?!Well coz, you prove yourself worthy of every award you win, and that hours spent reading this was not in vain. Though, between us, I wish the Bold Prince was named William.
Thank you very much and good to hear you are still working to catch up. The good news, I suppose, is that you have a better chance now that I have ceased tacking on a new scene every couple of days. Good to know that you will look into the new one when it comes. Look for it in a few days.
You are most welcome sir! It really was an exceptional piece of writing-I, like many others of your legions of readers, are avidly awaiting the sequel. As for that last scene I was kind of minded of Game of Thrones the 1st 20 minutes of the last episode in the last series-it had that sort of episodic, dramatic feel to it. ExcellentYou cause me to blush with your compliments, but it means quite a lot coming from you. Of all people, your comments (and even occasional picked nits) have likely been the most important to me for your knowledge of the period and people of England at this time is rivaled only by @stnylan and @TheButterflyComposer. That we had similar works going caused me to find inspiration with your own words and I think made my work all the better for it. I truly thank you!
And you cannot know how much it pleases me to see you use "cinematic" to describe the final scene. It was my exact wish to see it read that way. I do tend to write in that fashion as a former actor and proud holder of a Bachelor of Arts in Theatre from the University of Georgia. (My thesis was on The Method. ) That would explain why my work is so dialogue heavy.
Very interesting about your thoughts on Eadward. As I recall, you were one that was defending him early on when others were looking for his perfidy. If it is still up the air for the reader, then I am doing my work properly. He is a complex man and comparison to Richard III is probably not a bad one (though not the Shakespeare Richard...the real one.)
Thank you so much for your continued support and I really do apologize for staying away from your own awesome work for too long. Thankfully, I got back to it just in time.
The secret I find to commentating is not to worry about necessarily being "thoughtful" - the writAAR will always like the comment.I must apologize for not commenting more during the AAR. It certainly deserved the comments, but I simply struggled to come up with anything thoughtful to say. I guess that's a skill I should work on developing further.