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I was tempted to write another long character sketch-type thing like I did last time, but my will to do so is failing me. Nevertheless, I'll leave the niggling thought that inspired it here:

I cannot help but hear in Eadgar's voice the sound of a man who has been fighting an uphill battle all his life and now just wants all the fighting to be done.
 

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I cannot help but hear in Eadgar's voice the sound of a man who has been fighting an uphill battle all his life and now just wants all the fighting to be done.
I think the same thing. There is an almost Sisyphaen element to his weariness.

I still mistrust Eadward. If this does't count as 'stirring the pot' I am not sure what does.

Now more than ever Eadger needs Eadwin to tell him to stop being such a paranoid fool (albeit not where Richard is concerned). I do think leaving on Crusade would be a bad idea.
 

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You could try seizing some land now if everyone is gone. Especially the Norman stuff. Kick em out of England and back onto French lands. It might not be the wisest of moves, but it would be something kings of England did in this time period and with this window of opportunity. It's much easier to raid your own larder and pick the choicest meat than someone else's pantry.

With the northern border secure (and smaller by one county) I think we can leave the Scottish border where it is now.

Wales, Ireland and Brittany are the places to expand into if you don't want to steal land from your vassals and of this empire three choices, Ireland would be easiest (but most gamey, cos England had bigger all interest in it for centuries yet), Wales is possible) which might be possible now the duchy of Mercia is effectively headless but still has the problem of being cut of fighting from England by that huge realm) and Brittany would be hardest (but possibly most worthwhile, as you can't get and duchy title and a kingship out of it and it's small enough that you can hold it all yourself and it cuts off Norman expansion). Wait for a bit to see what's happens if you want but I'd be planning a foray into Brittany as soon as possible.
 

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The good thing about crusading Lords is that their armies are away crusading. You know, in case you want to revoke a title or two.;) They might not like it, they might even rebel. But they can't do much about it when half a world away, can they?
 

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Hmmmm the response of the lords to primo is most unwelcome and the more you write him the more I wonder about young Eadward's deeper motives

An interesting aside with king and prince. Maybe Eadgar is also beginning to suspect that there is more to his young son than meets the eye
 

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I don't want to suspect you Eadward. I don't! But you make it hard!

Obviously, Eadward isn't going to do anything while his father is alive, since there's nothing that can be done (short of forcing a change to elective, but I don't think he would go as far as to incite rebellion - though it would be a very medieval prince thing to do). On the other hand, I don't think he'll mind when the nobles get uppity when his brother takes the throne and suddenly that nice strong claim on the throne he's likely to get, combined with his high diplomatic skill making him popular, makes him an attractive alternative.
 

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It's almost comical how many members of this illustrious group seem to think the second favourite son, the middle child and the polite chancellor of the realm who has a maverick side isn't also plotting something insidious behind everyone's back. I mean...the game could do something unexpected but the law of narrative is laying down some massive warning signs here. If Edward ends up sacrificing himself nobly to save the heir or father from an assassin, that's the only other likely ending I can see coming up aside from him betraying everyone.
 

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Fb-fb:

I was tempted to write another long character sketch-type thing like I did last time, but my will to do so is failing me. Nevertheless, I'll leave the niggling thought that inspired it here:

I cannot help but hear in Eadgar's voice the sound of a man who has been fighting an uphill battle all his life and now just wants all the fighting to be done.
I think you may have something there. Every time he finds a success, there is continual reminder that it will never be easy. He would very much wish the fighting to be done but Eadgar knows in his heart of hearts that it will not be in his lifetime.

I think the same thing. There is an almost Sisyphaen element to his weariness.

I still mistrust Eadward. If this does't count as 'stirring the pot' I am not sure what does.

Now more than ever Eadger needs Eadwin to tell him to stop being such a paranoid fool (albeit not where Richard is concerned). I do think leaving on Crusade would be a bad idea.
The loss of Eadwin is quite stark. There is no equal to him in the realm right now. Whether honest or no, Eadward is simply not seasoned enough to bring reason to the King as Eadwin did before.

You could try seizing some land now if everyone is gone. Especially the Norman stuff. Kick em out of England and back onto French lands. It might not be the wisest of moves, but it would be something kings of England did in this time period and with this window of opportunity. It's much easier to raid your own larder and pick the choicest meat than someone else's pantry.

With the northern border secure (and smaller by one county) I think we can leave the Scottish border where it is now.

Wales, Ireland and Brittany are the places to expand into if you don't want to steal land from your vassals and of this empire three choices, Ireland would be easiest (but most gamey, cos England had bigger all interest in it for centuries yet), Wales is possible) which might be possible now the duchy of Mercia is effectively headless but still has the problem of being cut of fighting from England by that huge realm) and Brittany would be hardest (but possibly most worthwhile, as you can't get and duchy title and a kingship out of it and it's small enough that you can hold it all yourself and it cuts off Norman expansion). Wait for a bit to see what's happens if you want but I'd be planning a foray into Brittany as soon as possible.
I can only say, wait and see. I definitely have some plans to enact and the Crusade does offer chance for some of them.

The good thing about crusading Lords is that their armies are away crusading. You know, in case you want to revoke a title or two.;) They might not like it, they might even rebel. But they can't do much about it when half a world away, can they?
No, they cannot. I have one in particular in mind. ;)

Hmmmm the response of the lords to primo is most unwelcome and the more you write him the more I wonder about young Eadward's deeper motives

An interesting aside with king and prince. Maybe Eadgar is also beginning to suspect that there is more to his young son than meets the eye
Uh oh...don't tell me you are becoming a convert. :D There is definitely more to Eadward than just the loyal son, but it may not be so nefarious.

I don't want to suspect you Eadward. I don't! But you make it hard!

Obviously, Eadward isn't going to do anything while his father is alive, since there's nothing that can be done (short of forcing a change to elective, but I don't think he would go as far as to incite rebellion - though it would be a very medieval prince thing to do). On the other hand, I don't think he'll mind when the nobles get uppity when his brother takes the throne and suddenly that nice strong claim on the throne he's likely to get, combined with his high diplomatic skill making him popular, makes him an attractive alternative.
This is closer to the truth, I think. We shall have to wait and see how Eadward reacts when and if Uhtræd inherits now that it is the known course. His diplomatic skill is key in how I have tried to write for him.

It's almost comical how many members of this illustrious group seem to think the second favourite son, the middle child and the polite chancellor of the realm who has a maverick side isn't also plotting something insidious behind everyone's back. I mean...the game could do something unexpected but the law of narrative is laying down some massive warning signs here. If Edward ends up sacrificing himself nobly to save the heir or father from an assassin, that's the only other likely ending I can see coming up aside from him betraying everyone.
Again, Butterfly...you will have to wait and see. ;)


To all - I've had a rather long and grueling day and the weekend looks to get no lighter as I see it but I did plan for this having put together two updates that I can parse out in that time. The first comes up right after this. Give me a moment to check for typos. The next will likely be later this weekend at some point. Thanks as always for your great readership and I apologize to those I have not been able to catch up on recently. I promise I will as soon as time permits.
 

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The Rightful King


Wessex, England - June 1101


“You are rather far afield,” a voice called out from behind the Prince, causing Eadward to turn and smile as he spied Duke Robert of Normandy walking towards him through the gardens of Winchester.

Eadward stood and offered a brief bow, “I am at that, but your nephew has been so very gracious…it is difficult to leave these verdant lands.”

“I believe this Earl thinks he has some place now that you have come to visit,” Robert returned with a brief bow of his own as he answered.

“I would hope that we all have place, my Lord,” Eadward smiled.

Robert looked him up and down for a moment, “You might say that, but you are young. You do not find your place lacking, my Prince.”

Eadward grinned, “That may be true, but it is a standing with middling return.”

The Duke raised a brow as he gestured for Eadward to walk with him along the lake shore, “Do you find your position stifling, my Prince? I would think a fresh marriage just the thing for a young man like yourself. Surely your Judith is in the very flower of her youth. Why be here with my foolish nephew when you might be abed and planning for the future?”

“She is lovely, my Lord,” Eadward walked with him, “And she thanks you very kindly for your gift at our wedding. What one may do with two swans in Lincoln, I know not but she will find a way.”

Robert laughed, “They are beautiful to look upon but even better on the plate.”

“I would hope her to have a craving soon, my Lord,” Eadward answered with his own smirk.

“Very good!” Robert slapped the Prince’s backside in good nature and kept walking. “Your bedding surely was a success!”

Eadward walked a pace behind as he replied, “I must say that it was my wedding that does cause me to be here today, my Lord.”

The Duke stopped and looked to him with some curiosity, “Is that so? Come to find what I have learned from our cousin of Godwin?”

“I must admit, I was rather in the throes of it at the time and did not have great chance to speak with you much at Gainsborough, Lord Robert,” Eadward gave nod.

Robert smiled and continued walking along the shore, “Well you know as much as may be needed and all there can be to find from that fresh faced fool. Lord Cearl thinks himself to be a knight of some holy order it would seem. He may be greeted by some harshness should he ever step foot on those far off shores.”

“He has sailed already, I am told,” Eadward followed the Duke.

“That he has, and with as quick a pace that I thought impossible from that clan,” Robert cocked his head back with a grin, “Far more speedy than his cousin in Gloucester. What…does the young Duke of Hwicce think to wait for the King to join him?”

Eadward continued in his steps, “The King will not be going to the Holy Land, my Lord.”

Duke Robert stopped with a quick turn, “Are you serious? How can he not? Now’s the chance for a great King to make his mark on the world, especially as so few others outside our realm honor this call.”

“The King has great fatigue after his war with Scotland and now with so many questioning his current desire…” Eadward left the words hanging.

Robert placed his hands upon his hips, “Should we not question? Who is to say that this foreign Prince is the one to rule us all someday? We know him not.”

“His Grace is to say, my Lord,” Eadward offered a sharp eye.

“You would tell me that you like it well that your brother will land this throne from some far off place while you spend so many days caring for this realm and will find naught from it?” Robert begged answer.

Eadward stood tall, “I would and so should you, my Lord Duke. It is the King’s desire and he worries mightily that those he has given great honor will not return it in kind when such time may come.”

Robert waved a hand away as he moved to walk again, “I would not challenge him. The King has gained the crown fairly.”

“Of course not, my Lord,” Eadward moved to follow as he watched the Duke closely, “But others might. Thus my question of Lord Cearl. Do you think him to have designs? His play at crusade does suggest he might think it just the thing to make him the man to be in this realm. When the King will not go himself to protect the Holy Land…”

“Cearl of Godwin is an idiot,” Robert stopped to look out over the lake, “His Grace should find no worry on his account. The man may think he betters his rank, but that is a mighty tall ladder.”

Eadward gave nod as he stood behind the Duke, “And yet there be rich lands for the taking, I understand. The Holy Father has promised all that whatever they may take, they would keep to protect these lands from the heathen.”

Robert turned to offer a smile, “I would say to let him. My father was no fan of his lineage and I be no more likely to care for his breed. It is a far play from that place to this, my Lord Prince.”

“So you have no thinking to join with it yourself?” Eadward questioned with a raised brow.

“Myself?” Robert turned back to the lake before him, “I would not deny that this thought has crossed my mind. If the King would not go…”

“He would not,” Eadward was quick to answer.

Robert looked back briefly, “These Moslems are many, I am told.”

Eadward answered as he watched the Duke look ahead once more, “I have heard the same. And without the aid of the French King…or the Germans…”

“The so called empire in the East has been failing for years,” Robert nodded as he moved to walk again, “They are but a shell. The Holy Father would have never called such a crusade if the situation were not as dire.”

“I quite agree,” Eadward replied as he moved to follow once more.

Robert slapped his gloves in hand, “If no one would come to the rescue of this great church, then what shall we do?”

“It is Christ’s own church,” Eadward gave a serious nod, “Not even your cousins come to assist.”

“Hmm!” the Duke offered a snort. “They be black sheep as far as I am concerned and no kin of mine if I am to tell about it. No. Without a great western shield…our church will surely fold.”

Eadward offered a smile, “I am pleased to hear you say it, my Lord. I have tried greatly to encourage my father to join this great crusade…he will not move his thinking. But you? There is great might in Normandy. Your numbers could very well turn the tide.”

The Duke looked to Eadward with a sly grin, “You wish me to be away as well…I see it, my Prince.”

“I would not attempt to convince you of what is right, my Lord Duke,” Eadward smiled, “I may only say to you what we find in this world. Your actions would tell the tale.”

“And yet, you are persuasive,” Robert’s grin grew larger.

Eadward gave a nod in thanks, “I am certain that the King would wish you to stay here at the now. He needs you as we all do, my Lord. His great concern is Lord Cearl and what that house may try in the years ahead. Thoughts of the Holy Land are far away.”

“And Cearl goes there,” Robert turned back to the lake.

“That he does,” Eadward offered a smile.

Robert did not turn as he considered his thoughts for some time before answering, “I would speak with my men. I may not promise your father a happy outcome if he wishes me at home. These are great stakes.”

“That they are,” Eadward gave nod, “But there is much to do at home, my Lord. Between the striplings in the North and those left behind to plot from Lord Cearl’s court…His Grace would see that you have much to consider as our master of spies.”

“The King should not worry,” Robert answered with a fine smile, “I would always handle my duty.”

Eadward gave a pleasing nod, “That is fine to hear, my Lord Duke. His Grace will find this news most welcoming.”

“I am glad to be helpful, my Prince,” Robert replied as he moved to walk towards the keep. “I would speak with my men and let you know of what they say.”

“I thank you, my Lord,” Eadward smiled as he watched the Duke walk up the slight hill and knowing full well what he planned to discuss.


Prince Eadward moved towards his rooms and considered the plight of those poor unfortunate souls in Jerusalem and across the Holy Land. The Prince was a Christian and thought it a terrible thing that this violent religion had invaded his mother’s church and his own. Yet he was no martial man. That was his older brother.

Eadward moved to his door and entered with purpose to find his maps. He looked down at them and tried to find a smile.


Perhaps the Duke had taken up the challenge. That was his hope. But as he looked before him, it was clear that it was a fool’s errand. The Holy Father’s pleas had mostly fallen on deaf ears and only the Lords of England and Ireland had joined the cause with some few French and Italians bolstering their forces.

Even his own suggestions to his father had come to nothing as the King was mindful only of his lands at home. It was their last conversation that put into place this idea of Eadward’s. If the King would not travel to the Holy Land, how to get the Norman Duke to take up the challenge? Use his pride against him. He hoped the ploy worked.

A knock to his door stirred Eadward from his thoughts. A page entered and handed him a letter, “Word has come from the Holy Father, my Lord Prince.”

Eadward broke the seal and read the contents as a smile moved across his face.


The timing of it all could not have been more perfect. Now it was time to pack and progress to the north once again. The Prince offered a silent prayer for those engaged in this great Holy war but there was a notable absence in his thoughts. The Normans had their Lord Robert and naught else as far as he was concerned.
 
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Eadward is proving as good chancellor as Eadwin (though he admittedly lacks the martial skill). As for his designs... does he desire his father to win the Crusade, create the Kingdom of Jerusalem and then split his holdings, giving Jerusalem to Eadward? If we concede that he does not have designs on England while his father is alive, then that has to be it.
 

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Will you meet a blacksmith en route to the Holy Land I wonder? :p

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He certainly proves to possess a smooth tongue, but he remains moved primarily I feel by his own concerns. They may run side by side the Kong's, but not I think his elder brother's.
 

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Eadward is being helpful. Since the actual heir is, as the Norman says, in Germany and his own sins are foreigners, it's good to see at least one member of the family other than Edgar try to do things in England. Something tells me the game would be easier if eadward and his heirs would become kings...but that would be gamey and based off of stats. Perhaps this means a faction is in the works to put him on the throne? Despite Coz's insistence to the contrary, I don't believe either the AI or the character in universe would pass up the chance to get himself or his own heirs (when he has them) on the throne. I suppose that depends though. If he has all daughters...well, things will get interesting.
 

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I won't deny that Eadward has the ambitions, but I don't think he has the temperament to simply seize the throne by fiat, no matter his opinion of his brother. I think that, at the very least, he'll be mostly content to let Uhtraed keep the English throne unless and until he has a genuine grievance.

Which, admittedly, doesn't rule out the possibility of taking advantage of someone else doing the dirty work for him...

The read I'm getting off Eadward is that he's not all that different from his father at the same age, at least in his relative naivete and reluctance to act in his own naked self-interest without some sort of internal moral justification -- not just a convenient excuse for form's sake, but some "greater good" he can honestly believe he's advancing. Unlike his father, of course, he seems to also have a native talent for scheming.
 

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I can only say, wait and see.

You always say that. I want to take a chance!

(Reference...)

Again, Butterfly...you will have to wait and see.

I suppose we live in a very misty area (cuts down on rendering and graphics),

(Also reference)
 

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Very interesting scene indeed. It is clear Eadward's diplomatic skills and smooth talking are amongst his most formidable weapons but it seems we can also add scheming to the mix. The question is cui bono? Him or his father? And because England has agreed to join the crusade does not mean the king will go does it?

Very well written: a scene dripping with intrigue
 

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Fb-fb:

Eadward is proving as good chancellor as Eadwin (though he admittedly lacks the martial skill). As for his designs... does he desire his father to win the Crusade, create the Kingdom of Jerusalem and then split his holdings, giving Jerusalem to Eadward? If we concede that he does not have designs on England while his father is alive, then that has to be it.
Could be...or perhaps not. That would certainly be an interesting scenario, but that would require Eadgar going on Crusade. He may have "joined" but that does not necessarily mean he will put forth much effort.

Will you meet a blacksmith en route to the Holy Land I wonder? :p

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Probably not as he will likely never get on that road. ;)

He certainly proves to possess a smooth tongue, but he remains moved primarily I feel by his own concerns. They may run side by side the Kong's, but not I think his elder brother's.
I would say that is fair enough. He wishes the King's desires but may go about them in his own way. The timing may not be helpful for the King even if it is for the Prince/Chancellor.

Eadward is being helpful. Since the actual heir is, as the Norman says, in Germany and his own sins are foreigners, it's good to see at least one member of the family other than Edgar try to do things in England. Something tells me the game would be easier if eadward and his heirs would become kings...but that would be gamey and based off of stats. Perhaps this means a faction is in the works to put him on the throne? Despite Coz's insistence to the contrary, I don't believe either the AI or the character in universe would pass up the chance to get himself or his own heirs (when he has them) on the throne. I suppose that depends though. If he has all daughters...well, things will get interesting.
Indeed, all of the fawning over the great stats for Eadward and his new bride come to naught if he does not produce an heir of his own (or at least one to continue his own line.) And yes...he IS being helpful. Glad to see that you approve this once. :p

I won't deny that Eadward has the ambitions, but I don't think he has the temperament to simply seize the throne by fiat, no matter his opinion of his brother. I think that, at the very least, he'll be mostly content to let Uhtraed keep the English throne unless and until he has a genuine grievance.

Which, admittedly, doesn't rule out the possibility of taking advantage of someone else doing the dirty work for him...

The read I'm getting off Eadward is that he's not all that different from his father at the same age, at least in his relative naivete and reluctance to act in his own naked self-interest without some sort of internal moral justification -- not just a convenient excuse for form's sake, but some "greater good" he can honestly believe he's advancing. Unlike his father, of course, he seems to also have a native talent for scheming.
I like your read and while it has been unintentional, there may be something to what you say in terms of the father and sons temperaments and similarities. But you strike the right note at the end...Eadgar was never much of a schemer, early on at least. He always needed someone else in on the action. Not so much for the son, at least so far.

Jacobs are always the trickiest types of sons, no? :p
Indeed, I am sure we did not expect this second son to gain as much coverage as the first...much less, likely more at this juncture in the writing. But one stayed home when the other did not. I made a specific choice not to write for Uhtræd during these years. It did not seem correct to have "drop ins" with him but rather made it more dramatic that after his flurry of an entry, he now remains far away and seemingly on the sidelines. I hope it makes for a better plot that way.

You always say that. I want to take a chance!

(Reference...)



I suppose we live in a very misty area (cuts down on rendering and graphics),

(Also reference)
I must say that I was shocked of no mention by you of France breaking apart one more time. ;) And indeed, I do always say wait and see. What else can a writer do? Don't want to give everything away, do I? :D

Very interesting scene indeed. It is clear Eadward's diplomatic skills and smooth talking are amongst his most formidable weapons but it seems we can also add scheming to the mix. The question is cui bono? Him or his father? And because England has agreed to join the crusade does not mean the king will go does it?

Very well written: a scene dripping with intrigue
Well done considering the alternative choice for Eadgar when he "joined" the Crusade. To answer your first question, I would say both but mostly for the King. It is helpful to get Robert away instead of plotting at home. I had the scene in mind...how to get Robert to join (because he does so on his own accord in game) when the King has not..yet. I joined after I saw all the rest start moving. No reason to irritate the Pope. The above scene was my way of perhaps showing that Eadward already has a good sense of how to persuade and scheme. Looks like it worked out well.


To all - that above comment to @Asantahene should come with an addendum...it is something I do not come right out and say moving forward in terms of an event but it does start to happen. Most who have played this game know of which I speak...my second of age son is now married, has a nice job and guess what he wants? Yep...land. And that same land I am trying to win over for myself, the King. That really begins to play here.

The next scene will follow once I check for typos. Some of the above will start to show forth. Sorry for my slower pace of late, but I have been working nearly nonstop for a few weeks now. I am doing good to get out an update every three days at the moment. But money is always a good thing. Thank you all for your excellent comments as always!
 

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The Rightful King


Gainsborough, England - October 1101


Duke Æthelmær did his best to hold onto the heavy tomes in his hands as he moved towards the privy council chamber. Each one felt as though it weighed a ton but he had pride knowing that it was by his own hand that they were sound. His King had called for him to show an accounting and he was never more ready than now to show his worth. He struggled to balance the books in one hand as he knocked with the other. Hearing the King say enter, he pushed with his backside to announced himself.

“Your Grace…I come with the numbers that you seek.”

The Duke found Eadgar looking out the window and the King did not turn as he asked, “Have we had a good year?”

“It has been wondrous, Your Grace,” Æthelmær answered as he unloaded the books onto the table with a thud. “The yield was more than expected and I have heard only a few men complain of the tax. There will always be some.”

The King still did not turn, “That is all fine. But I have another question, if you might answer it. Why does your brother not move?”

“I beg Your Grace’s pardon…” the Steward looked to the King with some question, “…I could not answer for Lord Harold. He is his own man and we seldom speak.”

Eadgar waved a hand as he continued looking out on his grounds, “It is no matter. He will press himself when the time comes.”

The Duke still looked confused, “At our last meet, he was very keen to travel, Your Grace. I am sure he will be to the Holy Land in good time.”

“That is fine,” Eadgar finally turned and took a seat at the table and pulled one of the heavy books to him. “Now tell me that we have funds enough for I have some desire to grant our Duke in Normandy a fine gift.”

“Lord Robert, Your Grace?” Æthelmær sat as well with some question.

Eadgar gave his Steward a sharp eye, “That is the one unless we have another…”

Æthelmær was quick to pull another of his books to him and open it to a page, “Of course, Your Grace…here is the tally. We are flush in this last accounting. You do not lack for gold, my liege.”

The King turned the book to him and looked over the figures, “That is well done, my Lord Steward.”

“I thank you, Your Grace…” the Duke still had question, “…but why this largess to Lord Robert?”

Eadgar looked to his Steward with a slight smile, “I appreciate your concern, my Lord. But he has been a help of late. That he travels at his own expense for this Holiest of crusades…I would let him know how much we thank him for his actions.”


“That is…very kind of you, Your Grace,” Æthelmær tried to answer.

“I should hope so,” Eadgar replied as he stood to find some ale.

The Steward continued to look with question, “I was under the impression that you had some grave concerns about our Norman Duke. At least that was what I took from my last conversation with your son.”

Eadgar poured his drink, “My son…the Chancellor…may be easily spooked. He does a fine job, but I would not be held to his opinion.”

“Very well, Your Grace,” Æthelmær gave a nod, “We would have as many funds as needed for your request. It would create a bind, but I am certain that it be no thing in good time.”

The King turned with drink in hand, “I am pleased to hear it, but you may not find liking to my next request.”

“I would do as I may, Your Grace,” Æthelmær suggested.

“I have many things to mind,” Eadgar answered as he sat and looked to the Duke with a keen eye. “Young Eadward does fine work, as I say, but his timing is…unhelpful.”

“Pray tell, Your Grace,” Æthelmær returned the serious gaze, “I have never found him wanting for your desires.”

Eadgar gave a smile, “And he has not. In truth, he works overly hard to find my good graces when he should not. But I am glad of it.”

“He is a dutiful son,” the Duke offered a pleasing nod.

“Eadward is nothing if not the most helpful young man,” Eadgar suggested before taking down his drink. “He works double time and I am proud of his efforts. In truth, he is more than our Norman Duke will ever be. And yet…”

The Duke allowed the pause before answering, “He seeks a place of his own.”

Eadgar offered a kind smile, “That he does. It was different for you, my Lord. You were Duke from a very early age and your obligations were clear to you.”

“My mother always told me so,” Æthelmær did not offer a smile, “My gained father even more so. Duke Eadmund always sought a place in your court.”

“In someone’s court,” Eadgar allowed a grin.

The Duke offered pleasing eyes, “If you don’t mind my saying so, Your Grace…your son only wishes his chance.”

“Well, he has found it,” Eadgar stated as he stood again to look out the window. “His work has let me know of great perfidy within our ranks.”


“You speak of Lord Cearl,” Æthelmær gave nod.

Eadgar turned briefly, “I do. He hesitates to travel too far himself even though he thinks himself a King.”

“That is true,” the Duke looked to Eadgar with a nod, “He looks to his forbears and wonders why he is not you.”

“He will find a shock one of these days,” Eadgar stated as he continued to look out to his grounds.

Æthelmær offered a grin, “I would find no issue with that, Your Grace.”

The King finally turned, “You may well find shock in my next question, my Lord. Have we more funds?”

“We will…” the Steward answered quickly, “…most certainly.”

“I mean at the now,” the King questioned with a keen eye.

“It may be difficult,” Æthelmær replied with some question, “We would be sound in some few months if you wish this gift to the Norman Duke.”

Eadgar looked to his Duke with a stern face, “I wish that and another.”

“There is more to be dealt?” the Steward asked with some worry.

“Very much so,” Eadgar moved to sit once more and looked to Æthelmær with a grave face, “My son tells me that we have chance in the Welsh country. Many palms will need to be touched. With all else that surrounds us, I must have this.”

Æthelmær looked to him with shock indeed, “That would most certainly put us in the red, Your Grace.”

Eadgar returned the gaze with a serious brow, “I care not. You will make it so.”


“As you wish, Your Grace,” Æthelmær gave a reticent nod.

The King offered a brief smile, “I thank you for your diligence, my Lord. I could not rule in this realm without you.”

“I am most grateful for your trust,” Æthelmær bowed his head. “I would see your aims come to true ends, Your Grace.”

“Find the gold, my Lord,” Eadgar peered into his Steward’s eyes. “I would work out the rest.”

 
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I must say that I was shocked of no mention by you of France breaking apart one more time. ;) And indeed, I do always say wait and see. What else can a writer do? Don't want to give everything away, do I? :D

I'm using the terry pratchet offence of spewing out every single conceivably viable plot point and possibility in the expectation that by doing so they won't happen, unless I tempted fate. France falling or France staying together...one of the two is going to happen and to be frank unless you want to attack France yourself it doesn't matter which one does happen, because the only part of the realm that can be threatened either way is Normandy. I wish they'd do something after all this time but then again Scotland hasn't done anything either. In most European histories, it's easy to accuse the author of being aglocentric but here the universe really is as such. No one else can move before england sorts out their civil war!

To all - that above comment to @Asantahene should come with an addendum...it is something I do not come right out and say moving forward in terms of an event but it does start to happen. Most who have played this game know of which I speak...my second of age son is now married, has a nice job and guess what he wants? Yep...land. And that same land I am trying to win over for myself, the King. That really begins to play here.

Tell him that you hate him, God and yourself and then send your problem to the church. Remarkable how many ambitious needy second sons in my fame have been shut up by giving them a robe and telling them to look Holy.