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Some general fb-fb:

And to Asantehene...are you saying "too much of a good thing?" ;) You may be right. I've really been enjoying doing this and it has been hard to hold back posts too long. With this break, I might be able to scale back just a little and still keep up a steady pace for both my writing and everyone's reading.

On your specific questions, I can say that:
a.) I've been modeling Morcar more on his traits than his skills. His ambitious trait most of all, but also his arbitrary one.
b.) Your point on lawful brother/brother by law is well taken. However, at this point I'll likely stick with what I've been using since I have used it quite a bit recently.
c.) And yes, Normandy is still part of England with William in jail. He also holds all of his possessions that he took from Godwine. It's a bit of an issue for me that I will touch on later when the time is right, but it seems problematic for the gameplay. I have some ideas on how to fix this, at least in my game, but it may cause an avalanche of repercussions. Which, hey...that might be fun. :D


As stated, hopefully I will be back with a proper update midweek. Until then, thank you all again for reading thus far and for all the great comments! You have kept me going for over a month now and I hope it continues for a good while longer. :)
Hahaha well maybe...no I think I was just shocked how quickly I fell behind after a few days hiatus

Thanks for answering my specific questions though. Take care and look forward to reading soon
 

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The Rightful King


Western Mediterranean – May 1080


Eadgar stood at the railing of the ship and allowed the spray to hit him in the face. He thought about passing the Straights of Gibraltar and the wonder he felt as he had never been so far from home as an adult. His birth had been in far off Kiev, but he remembered nothing of those days. He thought back over the past two months and how quickly things had happened that now caused him to travel so far. He thought about the serious look Beorhtmaer had given him that had pushed him on this journey.

The Earl had been out hunting again and was surprised to see his old friend ride up alongside Mayor Wiglaf. Beorhtmaer had not said a word, and Eadgar already knew something was wrong. Finally, it had been his Marshal that spoke, “My Lord…I fear that ill news has come to my ears.”

Eadgar asked with worry, “Is it Hextilda?”

“No, my Lord…it is the King.” The Mayor answered quickly.

Eadgar shifted his gaze back to Beorhtmaer and the old veteran kept a grave visage.

“Then please tell me what has been heard, Lord Marshal,” Eadgar replied still looking at Beorhtmaer.

The Mayor turned himself to Beorhtmaer, “Tell him, My Lord.”

“It was perhaps not even a fortnight past,” the old veteran began with a serious tone, “I was in York to see the King as he now prefers to keep his residence at his home. He was in counsel with some of the new men he has pulled around him and he was shouting when I came upon him. It was clear that he was in a foul temper and he was surely in his cups, as you are most familiar with his habits.”

Eadgar nodded as the old soldier continued, “His distemper seemed to be dedicated to you, Atheling. I am sure of it. I was told later that his brother, the Lord Duke Eadwin had just left the keep before my arrival and this conversation had set the King into his ill mood. As he drank more, no man there dared say a word for fear they might become the new direction of his ire. After some time, he did finally ask aloud why someone would not find way to rid him of this troublesome Earl? I do believe the men I was with that day took his question with great seriousness and now come to do you some great harm.”

The Mayor turned back to his Earl with growing concern, “My Lord, if this be true…we must needs call up some men of our own.”

A hand was raised and Eadgar looked back to Beorhtmaer with a question in his eyes. The look he received in turn was deadly serious and Eadgar knew it to be true. His mind raced at possible outcomes of raising men to go against the King. He knew it would be folly as he had too few of his own and the King his full realm. Even if Duke Eadwin were to join him, it would not be enough and he did not think the Duke would go against his brother at this time. But what else could he do? He looked back to the two men in front of him and asked that very simple question.

It was Beorhtmaer that found him his answer, “It is no fault of a commander to retreat against superior odds, Atheling. As there still be a war on in far off Hungary, perhaps that be the best place for you while the King’s temper is soothed.”

“Why in all of hell would he allow me such a thing as that, when what he wishes is my head?”

“Perhaps you would be killed in battle, Atheling. He might find that well met as easy as any other outcome.”

When Eadgar did not respond, it was his Mayor who suggested, “Perhaps you should send word to Duke Eadwin. He may counsel for your cause. The King surely listens to his brother.”

“Not always,” Eadgar was quick to reply. But he did see some merit in it.

That had been in March. After doubling his guard and sending a letter to Duke Eadwin, he received a reply saying that the Duke would surely counsel such a thing to his brother and then some few days later another letter arrived saying that the King was perfectly happy with such an outcome and was personally pleased to see his most beloved Earl back in the fold and fighting for his liege.

Eadgar stood now and had to laugh at the turn of events. But it had not taken too long to come around to the idea of a foreign adventure. After all, he had missed out on all three years of Morcar’s war and as he was a soldier at heart, his true talents had been wasted. Now he might once again get the chance to prove his worth…at least to himself.

Nor would he have to worry about seeing the King any time soon as Morcar remained at home for the now as he continued to raise levies to send off to Hungary and would not be arriving for many months. Eadgar’s command was to meet with their allies…one Nestor of Tmutarakan in Aquileia and then travel north through the Empire into Hungary. And now he watched the waves go by as he sailed through the waters of the Western Mediterranean and marveled at how he got to be there.


Eadgar is on his way to Hungary
 
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Oh the irony. Perhaps Morcar was attempting to shield his intentions. Publicly showing anger at an earl. If someone took it upon themselves to interpret that as Eadgar needing a swift end, that wasn't his fault as he *clearly* meant this other earl. ;)
 

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This works well for everyone. Morcar gets Eadger out of the way. Eadwin stops Morcar becoming a butcher. Eadgar gets to fight, and possibly make a name for himself in a way that will further his claim.

Ultimately this resolves nothing, but it does delay, and allows time for other opportunities to arise.
 

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Surrounded by new men, so the old guard must be pretty hostile or at least hacked off about being displaced by the new king. And Eadgar can always do the Norman thing of just sialing off, conquering his own kingdom and then returning to smash the heck out of the English.
 

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This works well for everyone. Morcar gets Eadger out of the way. Eadwin stops Morcar becoming a butcher. Eadgar gets to fight, and possibly make a name for himself in a way that will further his claim.

Ultimately this resolves nothing, but it does delay, and allows time for other opportunities to arise.

Other opportunities, certainly, but the other side of the coin is that it also gives time for new complications to arise -- and Eadgar will be half a world away before he can do anything about them himself.
 

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Oh dear this is certainly a double edged sword. Out of sight, out if mind but no longer able to influence...let us see where this new direction takes the Atheling.

Well written sir-I like how you weave in the fracturing of Henry II and Thomas À Becket's famous relationship. Bravo!
 

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Fb-fb:

First a bit of a general note - As I stated previously, this last scene kept being problematic for me as is the one that will follow it. Part of it (most of it, really) was due to what I felt was not really applicable to the story itself. In game terms, after Morcar beat William, I watched as he continued to raise levies and started to see him sending them off to Hungary. As I poked around, I suddenly noticed that Eadgar himself had been sent and was in the Med. as you all saw in that screenshot. It seemed problematic to me as I had just expressed how he stayed home during Morcar's war for England. Now he was fighting for Morcar? Thus I cooked up the plot that perhaps Morcar wanted him gone. I've hopefully been building to that in the last few posts so it did not seem out of nowhere. (And more on this after the next update.)

Now, on to specific fb-fb...

Oh the irony. Perhaps Morcar was attempting to shield his intentions. Publicly showing anger at an earl. If someone took it upon themselves to interpret that as Eadgar needing a swift end, that wasn't his fault as he *clearly* meant this other earl. ;)
Very good. :) Morcar will always relish his plausible deniability.

This works well for everyone. Morcar gets Eadger out of the way. Eadwin stops Morcar becoming a butcher. Eadgar gets to fight, and possibly make a name for himself in a way that will further his claim.

Ultimately this resolves nothing, but it does delay, and allows time for other opportunities to arise.
Indeed, and I am pleased that is the reaction as I was quite unsure how to write that last one. And yes...opportunities arise soon enough.

Surrounded by new men, so the old guard must be pretty hostile or at least hacked off about being displaced by the new king. And Eadgar can always do the Norman thing of just sialing off, conquering his own kingdom and then returning to smash the heck out of the English.
That is quite possible. It may work out a bit differently but let us just say Morcar did not read How to Win Friends and Influence People. ;)

Other opportunities, certainly, but the other side of the coin is that it also gives time for new complications to arise -- and Eadgar will be half a world away before he can do anything about them himself.
Quite true...opportunities and complications are indeed on the rise. We will get to that soon, I promise.

Oh dear this is certainly a double edged sword. Out of sight, out if mind but no longer able to influence...let us see where this new direction takes the Atheling.

Well written sir-I like how you weave in the fracturing of Henry II and Thomas À Becket's famous relationship. Bravo!
I am quite pleased you appreciated how I wove in that relationship. I think I have already mentioned I modeled a bit of the Morcar/Eadgar dynamic on Henry/Becket. Part of my frustration in the writing was wanting to include that famous phrase and thinking I was being too on the nose with it. Ultimately, I gave in and adjusted it only slightly. Glad it worked!


To all - in somewhat of an effort to assist you good readers and your schedules, and perhaps help myself as future issues arise in my own life, I think I will try to scale back just slightly and post updates every other day rather than one a day. I will try to keep my writing schedule as I believe it is important if I am to continue this, and hopefully I can get into a nice rhythm that allows for steady posts that don't push me too far ahead in the writing or the gaming. We'll see how it goes. Thus, look for the next update tomorrow.

And thank you so much for reading and most certainly for your awesome comments!!!
 

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The Rightful King


Sopron, Hungary - December 1080


Eadgar of Wessex looked over the ramparts leading up to the fortress at Sopron. He had little idea of the intricacies of this war, but it mattered not to him. He had his charge and was certainly willing to do his part. If nothing else, he remained alive. And even more, he felt alive. It had been quite some time since he had been a leader of men and when he was given nearly two thousand to lead this siege, it was as if he was born again.

His men had set out from Steiermark in November and arrived to find a poorly defended keep that had been held by the forces of the King of Hungary, a boy and led by his Regent. Eadgar did find some humor in the thought that this regent was the boy’s father who had himself been King until his own brother had forced him from the throne. He had yet to meet this Prince Geza, but it was clear that he would stop at little to take the throne for himself. As they marched to Sopron, Eadgar amused himself by comparing this Prince with his own King.

The siege was going as well as could be expected, though he was disappointed that an attempted breach had failed recently. And disease was spreading in the camp as it usually did. Yet Eadgar felt confident. He missed his wife. He missed his time in Gainsborough. He missed England. But here he was a man again…and alive.

As he barked out some orders, he was surprised to see a large retinue of soldiers ride in from the west. At their lead was one William, of the House of Normandy and Earl of Suffolk. This was William the Bastard’s third son. He led a force twice Eadgar’s size and his men quickly took charge of the siege. Eadgar himself did little to stop it but did walk to greet the Earl.

“I had not thought another to meet me so soon, my Lord,” he said as he stood tall after allowing a slight bow.

Earl William dropped from his mount and made large strides to answer, “Our King wishes this keep to fall in quick time, my Lord. He is most impatient.”

Eadgar reached out to shake the man’s hand as he responded, “I had not thought you to be the man to do it, though I must say I am glad of the company.”

The Earl smiled as he shook, “The King has many worries. Your worth be not one of them at the now.”

“That is good to hear,” Eadgar answered as he pointed to the fortress. “It should fall to us in good time, my Lord. Now that you are here, it will be all the sooner.”

“I hope that be true, Lord Eadgar. And I bring news from home.”

“Oh?” Eadgar asked, trying not to seem too interested.

William laughed at the attempt as he answered, “Oh yes…there be much and more to tell. While my father sits in a cell, his son…my brother…seeks to see his realm of Maine independent. The cheek of the man.”

Eadgar raised his brow in curiosity, “That seems not unreasonable. I should think those lands of your father would wish to be separate at the now. There is much afoot in France, these days.”

“Indeed,” William gave over a grin, “Dear King Philippe seems to lose ground daily. And yet here we are fighting a war clear across the Earth.”

A laugh was enough to find the men well met as Eadgar gestured for them to sit by a fire. “So what more can you tell me of my home?”

William sat with a grunt and then allowed a deep exhale, “Long travels do tire the body. But war does not tire the soul, eh?”

“There is wisdom in that, my Lord. Though it be not entirely true,” Eadgar replied.

“Perhaps it is my freshness, Lord Eadgar. You have been here for some time,” William laughed.

“Not long enough, it would seem…though you did allow that the King had larger worries. Perhaps it has been just the right amount of time.”

William crooked an eye as he looked at Eadgar, “I have heard more than a word on your travails with His Grace, Lord Eadgar. I know not why you Saxons hold so tightly to your clannish ways?”

“Is it so much different in Normandy, my Lord? And are you not now a Lord of England? Perhaps you should learn of our traditional respects.”

William smiled, “Perhaps you are right, but you are a cut throat bunch. Once you gain a King, you start looking around for another in quick time. The throne never gains a truly warm seat.”

This time Eadgar laughed, “There you may be on to something. But the claims remain plentiful. Even your own father my harbor some desire still.”

“If he does, he must needs find some way to leave his cell,” William answered with just a little spite. “And what of your own claim, Lord Eadgar? What will you do with it?”

“What can I do? I am to the other end of the Earth and have no way to threaten His Grace.”

William crooked an eye, “Then you be the only one not to.”

“Who is it this time?” Eadgar asked with some exasperation.

“Well, it be entirely hearsay, but it seems the King has now proclaimed his desire for his own son to sit the throne after him,” William answered knowing the news might be bothersome.

“Prince Eadgar is a fine boy, if not a bit slow. It is indeed a surprise for that reason and no other.”

“Not that one, my Lord…his second son, Prince Eadward.”

When Earl William saw the confusion in Eadgar’s face, he continued, “And this news did cause quite a ripple in the pond…his own Bishop now seems to favor Duke Eadwin if something should happen to the King.”

“The Duke is a fine man,” Eadgar attempted to act as if he did not care but the Earl saw through it.

“My Lord…I be not done. The young Duke of Kent has now said publically that he would favor you, were something to happen to King Morcar. What think you of that?”

Eadgar smiled briefly before answering, “He is naught but a child. And would not say such things if had a true understanding of his words.”

“But that would make you a rather strong claimant at the now, would it not? If Æthelmær has moved away from his own kin to follow you, then our Lord Godwine cannot have so much support as that. And I do hear also that Duke Eadwin is somewhat of a patron to you, is he not?”

“You speak of far-fetched fantasies, my Lord. I have but one goal at the now and that is to see this keep fall to us and His Grace. All of this talk of succession is as tiresome as it is foolish,” Eadgar answered as he stood.

William stood alongside him and reached into his bag, “You may be right, my Lord. So perhaps you would not wish to read this letter I bring to you. It comes from Hereford. Perhaps it is not good news. I should find my men food and bed. I will leave you to it.”

William handed the letter over and walked away leaving Eadgar to consider what might be inside. He turned it over in his hands a few times before he decided to open it. It was indeed from Duke Eadwin and the wording echoed much of what Earl William had already said. Save one last item. Eadgar considered those final words over and over, and finally knew what he must do. He placed the letter in the fire and moved to inform Earl William of his intentions.


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Hey, William! My old friend, the Bastard...how'd you like to be out of this cell, out of this country and back in control of a free Normandy?
Just support me and we'll sort something out. Honestly, France is so chaotic at the moment I would really rather not have land there, no offense.

Hey, Kent my boy! You know, I always liked Godwine...actually that's a lie, he was a turd and we all knew it-but you! I like you. So how about you supporting me and you can have Wessex (unless I decide I'm going for a full on Saxon restoration, in which case you can't have Wessex but you can have Essex).

Hey, Eadwin, you treacherous snake you! Why don't you just admit you want to support me, help me on the throne and then you can have York and your brother's corpse o play house with?

Just one of many possibilities...
 

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When future historians shall write up this period of English history, I think they should use a phrase like "the Anarchy of 11th century". England can't get stable rulership for trying. I mean, before this AAR there was Aethelred, Ironsides/Svein, Cnut, then the fun and games when Cnut passed, then Edward prays-a-lot, and then the war of too many claimants, and now these shenanigans.

And who knows, perhaps a HBO or BBC series in due course...
 
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Yet another conversation where every phrase can have at least two meanings, at least if you know what to look for. William and Eadgar seem to both be sounding out each other's intentions, and both know it.

That said, once you cut through the chaff, it sounds (to me, at least) an awful lot like William is offering Eadgar conditional support for his claim, in exchange for freedom for his father and for Normandy as a whole.

And it seems like the news from Eadwin isn't entirely unexpected, given Eadgar is already ready to move. Perhaps he's been making a few moves of his own in the game while he's been fighting in far Hungary...
 
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Gosh the webs the spiders do weave...
 

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Hey, William! My old friend, the Bastard...how'd you like to be out of this cell, out of this country and back in control of a free Normandy?
Just support me and we'll sort something out. Honestly, France is so chaotic at the moment I would really rather not have land there, no offense.

Hey, Kent my boy! You know, I always liked Godwine...actually that's a lie, he was a turd and we all knew it-but you! I like you. So how about you supporting me and you can have Wessex (unless I decide I'm going for a full on Saxon restoration, in which case you can't have Wessex but you can have Essex).

Hey, Eadwin, you treacherous snake you! Why don't you just admit you want to support me, help me on the throne and then you can have York and your brother's corpse o play house with?

Just one of many possibilities...
Not surprisingly you are not far off from where we are headed. I won't give anything away, other than to say that Eadgar becomes a bit more proactive after he returns from Hungary.

When future historians shall write up this period of English history, I think they should use a phrase like "the Anarchy of 11th century". England can't get stable rulership for trying. I mean, before this AAR there was Aethelred, Ironsides/Svein, Cnut, then the fun and games when Cnut passed, then Edward prays-a-lot, and then the war of too many claimants, and now these shenanigans.

And who knows, perhaps a HBO or BBC series in due course...
"Edward prays-a-lot"...Heh. :D I was just speaking to Porter about this the other night...ironically, these years under Morcar (of all people) are the longest time of peace on the Island since I started the AAR. And if HBO or the BBC want to give me a ring, I am all ears. ;)

Yet another conversation where every phrase can have at least two meanings, at least if you know what to look for. William and Eadgar seem to both be sounding out each other's intentions, and both know it.

That said, once you cut through the chaff, it sounds (to me, at least) an awful lot like William is offering Eadgar conditional support for his claim, in exchange for freedom for his father and for Normandy as a whole.

And it seems like the news from Eadwin isn't entirely unexpected, given Eadgar is already ready to move. Perhaps he's been making a few moves of his own in the game while he's been fighting in far Hungary...
There was a sizing up going on there, no doubt. I feared I had not drawn William the son here well enough but you seem to have caught it so I must have done something right. I'll simply say we are far from done with those darn Normans. ;)

Gosh the webs the spiders do weave...
When the cat's away...Morcar has been in Normandy for a good portion of this time. I fear his need to help his brother in law is costing him the chance to settle his own kingdom. I fear it and appreciate it, at the same time. :D

I suspect the answer will be a positive one. Why would Eadgar make telling him no a priority? Inactivity requires no haste.
Good point. I nearly included Eadwin's last words in the post but figured you good readers were smart enough to get it without me spelling it out. I was right, of course. :D


To all - It's feedback day so look for another update tomorrow. It is written but I need to fiddle a bit more with it. It will be the third and last with Eadgar "on the road" as it were. Hopefully the whole thing will prove meaningful in the larger plot when done.

And while I am here, I should announce I am looking to start up a new round of Guess the Author in the near future. For those unaware, the link is in my signature. It's a fun exercise for writers looking to get honest critique of their work. Head over and get involved if it sounds like something you might be interested in. We always appreciate new folks getting into the action, either as a writer or to give critiques.

Until tomorrow, thanks for reading everyone! And very many thanks for your great comments!
 

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The Rightful King


Sens, France – March 1081


His mount trotted slowly through the men at either side as they parted. It was clear they were tired. And filthy. It was a far cry from the clean crisp uniforms they wore when last Eadgar of Wessex saw the King of the Franks. He pushed forward until he reached a tent that sagged on one side yet there remained an aide ready and willing to take his horse for treatment. Eadgar jumped down, nodding at the lad and moved to enter the tent only to find his man greatly dejected. King Philippe’s beard was over-grown and his eyes quite red. His countenance was such that his youth was overshadowed by his worry. All the vigor and joie de vivre that Eadgar had seen before was gone. This King was a husk of that man and seemed as though he cared not if anyone saw it.

“Your Grace,” Eadgar announced as he entered and watched Philippe slowly turn to look at him. “I cannot say I am well met as I look upon you, but now that I do see you, perhaps neither are you.”

It took the French King a moment to recognize his visitor but when he did, a smile flashed across his face, “Lord Eadgar of Angleterra! What a moment? I had not thought to see you.”

“That does seem odd as I received a letter once I entered your realm inviting me for such an audience,” Eadgar replied.

The look of dejection was impossible to miss, “I did not think you would accept. My realm is not so strong, as you may see.”

“Still, you seem in good health…if not quite exhausted,” Eadgar tried to counsel.

“I am very tired. Of that, make no mistake. But it is wonderful to see such a familiar face. And one that wishes me no harm. You do not wish me harm, do you?”

Eadgar smiled briefly, “Of course not, Your Grace. You are a great friend. There could be no way for me to travel across this Earth without visiting; such is the warmth that you give.”

Philippe allowed a slight smile, “You do me great honor, Mon Seigneur. And I am thankful for it.”

“Would that others did you so, Your Grace,” Eadgar followed only to be stopped by Philippe’s hand.

“They wish my seat. And my crown. What can a man do but fight for it?”

Eadgar thought on the words and nodded his head, “One fights for his own, Your Grace. And yet here you are.”

“Oui…here I am and here are you. Should you not be somewhere else, Mon Seigneur? Perhaps at home and fighting for your crown?”

Eadgar accepted a drink offered by the King’s steward and nodded in thanks, “In truth, Your Grace, that is precisely where I am headed. Though I do not know that I am able to fight for this crown of which you speak.”

The King eyed him with a slight grin, “I would wish it. I have no love for your master and great affection for you. Not even your man of Godwin, my lawful brother, would find me as well met as you on that august throne.”

“Thank you, Your Grace. At least Lord Godwine assists you in your time of need,” Eadgar responded.

“That he does with what he has. It is that other so called King that bothers me so. And he sits in a prison cell!”

“The Bastard’s support of Flanders has surely caused you much grief, Your Grace. Of that I am sure.”

The King flashed a hollow smile, “And this is why we meet in this meager tent and not in Paris where I would much rather greet you.”

“Where we meet matters not to me, Your Grace. It is that we are met that gives me all the pleasure one needs.”

“You are too kind Lord Eadgar of Wessex,” the King answered as he stood and approached the Earl. “Now…what will you do when you return home?”

“I am afraid there is little I can do but continue to wait, though I have seen some promising signs of late.”

The King nodded and leaned in close, “Do not be afraid to get your hands dirtied, monsieur. Your rivals would not think twice about it. If you wish this throne of yours, then you must take it for it will never be handed to you. And even once you do, someone else will be ready to take it from you just as quickly.”

Eadgar replied with a smile, “You simply wish another ally, methinks.”

“Oui! This is always true. And if you take the crown, then for once I may have a true ally in your lands. You can see I could use it, can you not?”

“I do, Your Grace. But I can promise nothing as I have nothing to give but my friendship,” Eadgar nodded as he answered.

“That is all that matters to me. We would talk of details at some later date. For now, allow me to offer you my hospitality as you once did for me…as much as I have to give. And then send you on to do that which you must do.”

“And now you are too kind, Your Grace.”

“I am not. But as you say, one must fight for their own. And I will give to you one last piece of advice…my Lord.”

Eadgar eyed him with happy curiosity, “And what might that be, Your Grace?”

“Trust no one but yourself. All others will find way to do you harm if you allow them. I inherited a great Kingdom and have seen it slowly slip from my grasp as the wolves circle to eat at the carcass. And they have since the very day I swore my oath. That I am anointed matters not to them any more than it would matter to your great Lords. Since they are all for themselves, so too should you be. Always be mindful of that score. It will always serve you well.”

“I will take these words to heart, Your Grace. And I am most thankful,” Eadgar answered with a smile.

The French King returned the smile with a serious face, “Do not thank me, Mon Seigneur…simply take your throne. That would be my thanks…je t’assure que c’est vrai!”


France in Turmoil
 
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A move sure to benefit both parties, if it works out. Philippe gets the opportunity to chastise an ambitious former vassal who is allied with those who have designs on his throne, while Eadgar gets more legitimacy from the recognition of one of Europe's other preeminent crowned heads as the proper heir to the English crown.

(As an aside: I've been watching too much Babylon 5 lately, since I keep hearing Londo Mollari's voice whenever I read King Philippe's lines.)
 

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(As an aside: I've been watching too much Babylon 5 lately, since I keep hearing Londo Mollari's voice whenever I read King Philippe's lines.)
I'm glad it is not just me.

There is no doubt Philippe would like to see Morcar humbled. That is motivation enough. Also I feel he is a somewhat better person now than when we previously seen him. Life has not been kind, but it has provided him with an education, and he is richer (in some ways) for it. Eadger, of course, has had his own education - but I am sure there are further lessons for life to give him.
 

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Western Europe is regressing a touch into the dark ages with the amount of civil war going on. Historians are going to look at this point and despair because there's more legends and warring going on.

I wonder who will win the Posterity war a son to who will be best remembered, this king, the atheling, godwine, William or even Phillipe.