The Return Unleashed: Exploded

[HolisticGod]

Anton,

Those stats aren't accurate.

If you look at the actual morale during battles, you'll see. Spain had a considerable edge. I don't think it would've made the difference it did had I been prepared for a European instead of colonial war (France was unexpected, so I figured Venice could handle Italy), though, so there's no question mistakes were made.

 

[LuisPivo]

Despite i didn`t see, but i suppose, you fought well. Russia coudn`t get in and you kicked them back, so you lost to 2 countries only. Then you tryed back 1 on 1 with Austria, finished as draw.

Actually I lost Krain (it will be none fighting more but I think that some economical inversion were better than simply try again the recover in hungary. The problem is when Austria arrives to land 18.... BTW with the inflaccion generated to the austria i think that the war could be seen as one inversion.

 

[Tonioz]

Well, landing 71K, then 83K is okay for european war

Those stats are correct, you can read Morale FAQ by Iron(long name) I catched all bugs in scripts and it is fully correct now.

Besides, you can watch Max Morale row, which is taken from the game. Venice on 100% and fully match Theor. Morale.

 

[Tonioz]

same way our current actual 50% morale matches 50% theoretical morale

 

[arcorelli]

After seeing stats (and assuming I understood), what happened to the english fleet? The AI sunked it?

 

[admiral drake]

After seeing stats (and assuming I understood), what happened to the english fleet? The AI sunked it?

ai attacked me while i had a 6/6/5 explorer sorry arco but ai refused wp entire time then offert some gold after he send most of his ships after my ships

 

[unmerged(18425)]

re: raising OE and Russia to Latin.

Morocco has the manpower to fight OE. I don't have the manpower to fight Russia. Giving Russia Latin puts me in a rather unfortunate position.
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I am glad you are impressed with my manpower, it prevents you from jumping at me, I guess

However, you ought to consider a few things:

• Sweden has more than twice the income of Russia. I expect this difference to increase significantly too. This means Sweden can raise quite a few merchants more in war time, not to mention her techs increase more rapidly.
• The Swedish tech and dp sliders are formidable, Sweden already has infra 5 and governors everwhere. Russia will only reach infra 4 in 1600, despite full investment in infra since ancient times.
• The swedish tech will give her a CRT on Russia, or Russia has to give up investment for infra 5. None of these two options please me.
• The Swedish morale is superior to the Russian.
• Sweden will have naval supremacy, makes it possible for her to escape troops per ships and supply new soldiers to the front, while Russia has to march everything. Not to mention it will be hard for Russia to fight a war in the coastal provinces.
• Sweden will get historical super leaders.
• Sweden will get events to boost her manpower, you already said you would edit these to maximise the effect.
• Land 5 means a traditional advantage of Russia, cheap troops, has been gone.

Sure, Russia has manpower, but it's the only advantage she has. Sweden has all the other advantages, more cash, naval supremacy, better techs, better events, better leaders.

If Russia would get latin tech, it will in practice only mean Russia can get an increase in economical techs, while preventing that her opponents get a CRT. Or at least I hope this. It won't mean Russia will get ahead of Sweden in tech.
Don't forget that Russia has already spend the whole campaign at orthodox, starting with the lowest infra and trade of the game.

To sum it up: I don't think Sweden will lose much of her advantage over Russia, would Russia get latin tech.

 

[unmerged(18425)]

Russia will need a sub for the next two sessions. I will start hunting now.

 

[Hive]

You people are so rude towards vnetters...

 

[Tonioz]

yeah, and we blame Hive for that :rofl:

 

[Fredrik82]

You people are so rude towards vnetters...

Why bother to waste time there anyway

 

[DSYoungEsq]

Why bother to waste time there anyway

Because properly handled, they can become perfectly good members of the forum, quite reliable as players in MP games organized through the forum, and will help replace the dwindling supply of regulars who either go off and play other games, get banned, or lose interest and are never heard from again. Whereas being rude to them accomplishes nothing except feeding an ego.

 

[Swuul]

Because properly handled, they can become perfectly good members of the forum, quite reliable as players in MP games organized through the forum, and will help replace the dwindling supply of regulars who either go off and play other games, get banned, or lose interest and are never heard from again. Whereas being rude to them accomplishes nothing except feeding an ego.

I agree. I was a V-netter and a nameless lurker on this forum until Tsunami. I read about the game here, then lurked in V-Net, and Mowers accepted me into the game from V-Net. At least that has resulted in me posting a couple thousand messages here

 

[unmerged(18425)]

I am sure vnetters don't need to be chased away always, but in this case it was Hive himelf who wanted to bother us

 

[unmerged(18425)]

Since some of you obviously follow this thread, is there one of you semi-lurkers who would like to sub two sessions and play with my mighty Mother Russia?

*looks to DSYoungEsq and Jarkko*

*sees DSYoungEsq pretending to be busy and Jarkko being busy with World of Warcraft*

Right.

 

[Swuul]

Jarkko being busy with World of Warcraft

Hot damn! Are you some sort of a psychic??

 

[DSYoungEsq]

Since some of you obviously follow this thread, is there one of you semi-lurkers who would like to sub two sessions and play with my mighty Mother Russia?

*looks to DSYoungEsq and Jarkko*

*sees DSYoungEsq pretending to be busy and Jarkko being busy with World of Warcraft*

Right.

Hmmm, don't play that one, I still prefer Everkill 2 when I do that sort of thing. But I'm more likely to be distracted by Golf.

However, in this case I can't commit. As Slargos knows, since I mentioned it early in the thread, I'll be on vacation and unable to participate.

 

[unmerged(11031)]

re: raising OE and Russia to Latin.

Morocco has the manpower to fight OE. I don't have the manpower to fight Russia. Giving Russia Latin puts me in a rather unfortunate position.

I'm rather interested in how moroccan manpower could get to 113, btw. I'm going to have to look into that one.

If the OE gets Latin, I ask for an Inflation cut. The only reason I've kept up the high inflation is because I assumed I would always have a tech group advantage on OE. If thats not going to be the case, I'd like a cut.

 

[admiral drake]

If the OE gets Latin, I ask for an Inflation cut. The only reason I've kept up the high inflation is because I assumed I would always have a tech group advantage on OE. If thats not going to be the case, I'd like a cut.

3notes : 1 would be better if you actually tech infra so far you didn't really even make a attempt to get infra5 so you can reduce inflation or keep it under control

2 inflation isn't same as techgroup the ottos won't have much better landtech with latin since a player in general ussualy just techs to be same crt as high neigbors unles youre rich and small ottos will get infra/trade and navaltech easyer tho but those don't really effect austria except for the part that ottos might spend alot on a fleet and build governors in provs you may conquer later on

3 giving austria alone a deflation would suck if he gets it everybody should get it xept for ottos-moroco-russia since they are given latin or in morocos case should have been ortho but has been latin from the start
+ you can't give austria -10deflation for a latintech ottos-russia and moroco since the biggest thing latin does is give those behind a neigborsbonus wich helps tons with navaltech ect in the long run but is capped best you could possible do to balance is perhaps is reduce -5 in my opinion

besides we all received the cash you minted same for you

 

[HolisticGod]

Robertus,

Also, the OE has exceptionally high inflation as well.

And yeah, it has to be across the board if it's done at all. And that includes Morocco, because I started with Latin. However you feel about it, that entitles me to the same treatment as everyone else.