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Oh, for the love of God, why??? Please give reasoning for your approvals if you don't want to be taken as a spy.

I rejected it because I saw Ironhide on it, and mistook him for Ironhead.

I changed it to an approve because there probably isn't a spy on the team.
 

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I rejected it because I saw Ironhide on it, and mistook him for Ironhead.

I changed it to an approve because there probably isn't a spy on the team.

And care you explain why you think there probably isn't?
 

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Approve.

I'm on the team, and so is wombat, so we have at least two known resistance members on there.
 

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Reject Jernan basically outed himself

Luft. I kinda think your a spy, you are so sure I'm a spy (I know for sure I'm not) and you tried to discredit me by approving that mission.
 

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And care you explain why you think there probably isn't?

Gladly

We know for sure that Luftwafer, Ironhead, or MC is a spy. In fact, looking back, the only reason this mission was approved in the first place is because you wanted to spite me.

We also think either luftwafer or MC is a spy, and they are not on the team.

I doubt Wombat and Ironhide are both spies, and I'm pretty sure they are resistance.

Health is a wildcard though.
 

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OK, so first things first, it's obvious that this needs to be rejected. The only way this mission can work is if aedan sabotaged and Ironhead lied about it, a proposition I consider not impossible, but not probable enough that I would consider risking the game on it.

REJECT

More detailed thoughts to come in a bit.
 

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OK then, here's what we know:

Luftwafer, MC, Ironhead contains at least one spy.
The GM has not updated the first page recently. :p
Aedan, MC, deathbywombat, Audren contains at least one spy.

Aedan did not sabotage M2, or else Ironhead and aedan are both spies.
deathbywombat is Resistance, or else Ironhide and wombat are both spies.

Approvals of failed missions
M1: Everyone but Falc
M2: Aedan, Audren, health, Ironhead, Falc, Jerman

Health and Jerman have twice approved missions they were not on; the former has taken a lot of flak for this, and rightly so; not so much the latter, to the point that Audren just put him on the mission and declared his record pretty clean, a point I have to regard with some suspicion.

Ironhead and Falc both approved last mission as well despite being off it; Ironhead at least gave some sort of reasons (protesting Comrade Stalin's incompetence, clearly a traitorous act) but Falc did not.

Everyone else at least has a reason for approving like being on the mission in question or preventing it from getting to M5 in dubious hands, for whatever that's worth.

Really not confident at all here in what course of action to take, but going down 2-0 requires a bit of a gamble if we're going to pull it out. I suspect that whatever Ironhead's allegiance, he probably told the truth about aedan not sabotaging (invoking some quasi-meta-thinking here, I doubt Ironhead would play the ITS card on a spymate of his, since he knew what the card was actually supposed to do.). That doesn't mean aedan is definitely Resistance, but it's a point in his favor. Then we have Ironhide vouching for wombat, which I'm not 100% sold on, but I'm inclined to trust. That means Audren must be a spy, or else I'm reposing my trust in a claim where I shouldn't be doing so. I'm going with the former.

My ideal team at the moment is MC+aedan+Ironhide+wombat. I consider luftwafer more likely to be the M1 spy than Ironhead, though I could still see either one being it. And then there's Health/Jerman/Falc, none of whom have really done anything to make me think they're good guys, even though (frustratingly) one of them has to be.
 

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You've been on two failed missions MC.

I'm not approving a team with you on it, sorry.
 

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REJECT

For reasons MC articulated.

I believe Luftwafer was the M1 saboteur. I am mildly concerned that Audren/deathbywombat/Ironhide are the remaining three spies; Audren handed the Open Up card to deathbywombat for reasons I didn't like, and then dictated that he play the card on Ironhide, which makes zero sense to me (what has Ironhide done to seem Resistance?). But if they are all three spies, then JermanTK couldn't be; and he is playing like a Spy who knows this game is in the bag and is thus putting forth as little effort as necessary. He might just be a lazy Resistance, and shame on him if he is.
 

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I apologize for lack of front page updating, I'm in France right now and haven't gotten a chance to do so
 

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REJECT

For reasons MC articulated.

I believe Luftwafer was the M1 saboteur. I am mildly concerned that Audren/deathbywombat/Ironhide are the remaining three spies; Audren handed the Open Up card to deathbywombat for reasons I didn't like, and then dictated that he play the card on Ironhide, which makes zero sense to me (what has Ironhide done to seem Resistance?). But if they are all three spies, then JermanTK couldn't be; and he is playing like a Spy who knows this game is in the bag and is thus putting forth as little effort as necessary. He might just be a lazy Resistance, and shame on him if he is.

I know I'm not a spy, however someone else in the game could also be a spy.
 

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Unless hack GM is the hackiest of hacks :p
 

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You've been on two failed missions MC.

I'm not approving a team with you on it, sorry.

Considering that 5 other people have gone on missions with me, that's not a particularly compelling line of argument.

I apologize for lack of front page updating, I'm in France right now and haven't gotten a chance to do so

That's pretty cool.
 

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Considering that 5 other people have gone on missions with me, that's not a particularly compelling line of argument.



That's pretty cool.

There is a risk though.