Give it to someone from the first mission, that way we will have 3 probable resistance to build a team around
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The points about Deathbywombat and Madchemist are pretty much the exact same thing I said in my post. You are the obvious likely spy for approving the sabotaged team, but like I said, that's far from the only explanation.
It's possible. However incompetent he is, I don't think he'd screw up telling us what the GM tells him. If someone other than myself were to be the one opened up to, it'd be him.
We shouldn't do anything until Ironhead's "In the Spotlight card" is resolved. (#133, in SMALL BLUE print, right side of screen.)
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That too, of course. No harm is discussing it while we wait, though.
Aedan777 approved the mission.
EDIT: Actually, that is exactly what the GM told me by PM -- "approved". But I think the word he should have used is "support" or "sabotage." And in any case, the In The Spotlight results should be public, not a private message to me, right? GM, can you clarify?
EDIT: Actually, that is exactly what the GM told me by PM -- "approved". But I think the word he should have used is "support" or "sabotage." And in any case, the In The Spotlight results should be public, not a private message to me, right? GM, can you clarify?
In the Spotlight should have a public result. Sometimes it's handled by having player publically state their mission card.
I didn't really think about the terminology, but I'm OK with switching. And I thought the player I provided it too was supposed to be the one who says it publicly
I believe that the scenario in which the cardplayer receives the result privately is KACEOY. The difference between that card and ITS is (a) I couldn't play it privately and hope to catch the target unawares -- I had to announce it publicly, which gives the target time to change their mission order; and (b) we all find out the player's mission order publicly.
If we were playing this game in person, this dynamic would look like me throwing down my ITS card, and aedan777 having to turn over his mission order card for all to see, before Jacksonian Missionary gathered up all of the mission order cards to determine the result.
From my brief look at things, that card was functionally treated as a KACEOY. Ironhead is right about how ITS would look in an IRL game.
Anyway, that doesn't really change the picture too much, I think. I still think Wombat is the best candidate for Open Up, and I'd still rather have him up to somebody who isn't tied to a sabotaged mission. I'll propose a team after the results come in. Wombat, if you do not Open Up to Ironhide, you are assumed to be a spy.
OPEN UP TO WOMBAT
SUCCESSOR NOMINATION TO HEALTH
OPEN UP TO WOMBAT
SUCCESSOR NOMINATION TO HEALTH
Alright, what do we know?
1. At least one of Luft, Madchemist, and Ironhead is a spy.
2. At least one of Audren, Aedan, Madchemist, or Wombat is a spy.
3. If Wombat is a spy, so is Ironhide.
4. If Aedan sabotaged, then he and Ironhead are both spies.
Not a whole lot of concrete information, or even concrete binary options (i,e, either X or Y is a spy). I still don't like Jerman for his sudden approval of Health's team, which would implicate Falc as well. Luft has been acting like a spy, which means he's probably Resistance, knowing him. Health hasn't done much of anything good or bad, I think, and is one of the few not tied to failed missions or suspicious voting. Ironhead and Aedan probably aren't both spies, since it doesn't make sense for Ironhead to scan his spymate and potentially be forced to lie.
I'm obviously going on the team. Out of the three on the first mission, I'm inclined to think that Luft is the one who sabotaged. He's off. I don't want to include Jerman or Falc because of Jerman's approval. Ironhide has been behaving rationally and Resistance-y, which is good. If Ironhide is good, then Wombat is also good. As for the fourth, I'm inclined towards Health; he isn't tied to any failed missions, and I haven't seen him make any suspicious approvals or rejections.
AUDREN
IRONHIDE
WOMBAT
HEALTH
APPROVE
1. At least one of Luft, Madchemist, and Ironhead is a spy.
2. At least one of Audren, Aedan, Madchemist, or Wombat is a spy.
3. If Wombat is a spy, so is Ironhide.
4. If Aedan sabotaged, then he and Ironhead are both spies.
Not a whole lot of concrete information, or even concrete binary options (i,e, either X or Y is a spy). I still don't like Jerman for his sudden approval of Health's team, which would implicate Falc as well. Luft has been acting like a spy, which means he's probably Resistance, knowing him. Health hasn't done much of anything good or bad, I think, and is one of the few not tied to failed missions or suspicious voting. Ironhead and Aedan probably aren't both spies, since it doesn't make sense for Ironhead to scan his spymate and potentially be forced to lie.
I'm obviously going on the team. Out of the three on the first mission, I'm inclined to think that Luft is the one who sabotaged. He's off. I don't want to include Jerman or Falc because of Jerman's approval. Ironhide has been behaving rationally and Resistance-y, which is good. If Ironhide is good, then Wombat is also good. As for the fourth, I'm inclined towards Health; he isn't tied to any failed missions, and I haven't seen him make any suspicious approvals or rejections.
AUDREN
IRONHIDE
WOMBAT
HEALTH
APPROVE
I don't know how health is considered a likely resistance member. And I'm not sold on Madchemist being the one who sabotaged mission 2, and this team assumes he was. And you say that Ironhead and I probably aren't both spies, so I should be one of the more trusted players. I could have put another spy I know on the team, but why should I? It implicates more of my spymates if the mission goes wrong. And if I didn't know there was another spy on the team, I would have sabotaged, but I didn't. Thus from a neutral point of view it is extremely unlikely for me to be a spy. Since we're one sabotaged team away from losing, I think it is thus pointlessly risky to not have me on a team.
Reject
I do agree that wombat and Ironhide are likely resistance members though. The fourth member is more tricky though. I suspect one of luft and Jerman is a spy, and the other is just a stupid resistance member. One of audren and Madchemist is a spy. Health and falc have some odd thing around them from health's first mission proposal. Ironhead would probably be my pick, but that's somewhat tenuous.
Reject
I do agree that wombat and Ironhide are likely resistance members though. The fourth member is more tricky though. I suspect one of luft and Jerman is a spy, and the other is just a stupid resistance member. One of audren and Madchemist is a spy. Health and falc have some odd thing around them from health's first mission proposal. Ironhead would probably be my pick, but that's somewhat tenuous.
Alright, I'm taking this as an admission of guilt. 1/4 spies confirmed.