[The Resistance] Game 27: Ohm's Laws

[marty99]

So, one of Falc and Alxeu is our last spy. The other messed up.

Who is more likely? At first glance, you'd have to say Alxeu, because he was on the mission and rejected it. Falc, as resistance, could be forgiven for rejecting a team he's not on. The mental gymnastics alxeu is pulling now, look to me - although perhaps I'm paranoid - that he is desperately looking for any team that doesn't have both of us in it, even though that is objectively the best proposal.

 

[alxeu]

If you guys would believe me, I did try, but my PM got in too late. I was willing to go through with it, I might just propose the same team for time's sake.

 

[PanzerCorps]

Who is more likely? At first glance, you'd have to say Alxeu, because he was on the mission and rejected it. Falc, as resistance, could be forgiven for rejecting a team he's not on. The mental gymnastics alxeu is pulling now, look to me - although perhaps I'm paranoid - that he is desperately looking for any team that doesn't have both of us in it, even though that is objectively the best proposal.

I was going to say I agree, then...

If you guys would believe me, I did try, but my PM got in too late. I was willing to go through with it, I might just propose the same team for time's sake.

Alright, do it, and we'll trust you.

 

[alxeu]

Team of:

Alxeu
Panzer
Marty99
Asdf
aedan777

Approve

 

[marty99]

I was going to say I agree, then...



Alright, do it, and we'll trust you.

Now I'm just paranoid there's two spies in this team. :laugh:


But be that as it may...

APPROVE

I can't see us getting a better chance than this.

 

[aedan777]

This team should work, and if it doesn't then we have another mission to work fix things.

approve

 

[alxeu]

Now I'm just paranoid there's two spies in this team. :laugh:


But be that as it may...

APPROVE

I can't see us getting a better chance than this.

Who do you think it is now?

Arkasas/Panzer/Me?

There are a million and one ways to discount this, I'm sure.

I'm joking about the prospect, I'm just trying to right the wrong I did last proposal.

 

[marty99]

Now I'm leaning towards Arkasas+Cliges+Falc, although it could be any one of Arkasas+Cliges/Aedan/Asdf+anyone else.

 

[PanzerCorps]

Approve

Rule, Britannia, Britannia rule the waves...

 

[Arkasas]

Reject

For Great Justice?

 

[Falc]

No, REJECT!


We need to leave Arkasas, Cliges AND Panzer off the team.


I refer you to my post 234.

If Marty lied about Arkasas, then Panzer is his spymate and Aedan or Asd is the third Spy. Leavin Ark, Cliges and Panzer off would mean there's two Spies on the mission and it gets sabotaged, but we end up with 50/50 odds of winning next round if the cards don't help.

If Marty told the truth, then leaving Ark, Cliges and Panzer off means AT LEAST two Spies are off the team, meaning we win now.


I don't believe there's a any other way forward that gives better odds.

 

[PanzerCorps]

No, REJECT!


We need to leave Arkasas, Cliges AND Panzer off the team.


I refer you to my post 234.

If Marty lied about Arkasas, then Panzer is his spymate and Aedan or Asd is the third Spy. Leavin Ark, Cliges and Panzer off would mean there's two Spies on the mission and it gets sabotaged, but we end up with 50/50 odds of winning next round if the cards don't help.

If Marty told the truth, then leaving Ark, Cliges and Panzer off means AT LEAST two Spies are off the team, meaning we win now.


I don't believe there's a any other way forward that gives better odds.

I'm actually fine with this, leaving Ark and Cliges off means we win no matter what. It's an unnecessary hold up but obviously you can't know that so...

Wait.

I really need to know who has which cards. What if this is just a delaying ploy to... I don't know, force five rejections? Get a team that suits you passed, even if it mostly blows your cover, because you'd lose otherwise?

 

[PanzerCorps]

Alright, I looked, and the only card still out is a TR, which can't do nothing as there's no card to take. So fine, I'll go with whatever you want as long as Cliges and Ark are off.

 

[marty99]

If Marty told the truth, then leaving Ark, Cliges and Panzer off means AT LEAST two Spies are off the team, meaning we win now.

Actually, yes, that is true. I was always thinking Cliges wasn't guaranteed to be spy, but at least one of him and Panzer are. Arkasas is too.

So a team of:
Marty
Falc
Aedan
AsdfeZxcas
Alxeu


WILL win this game. If this team is double-sabotaged, ASSUME I AM A SPY. You will also most likely have plot cards to give the resistance a pretty good chance of winning in that scenario. However, that won't even happen, because I am resistance, and there will be no more than one spy on the above team/

REJECT

This mission and let me propose mine next AND THE RESISTANCE WILL WIN. I give you the Ironhead 5 Ironclad Guarantee on that.

 

[marty99]

Alright, I looked, and the only card still out is a TR, which can't do nothing as there's no card to take. So fine, I'll go with whatever you want as long as Cliges and Ark are off.

Reject this team, go along with mine and prove to me you're resistance. This current team MIGHT be okay, but according to both of us, Falc's proposed team is definitely assured of winning also from both our perspectives, not just yours. So, reject this team.

 

[PanzerCorps]

Reject this team, go along with mine and prove to me you're resistance. This current team MIGHT be okay, but according to both of us, Falc's proposed team is definitely assured of winning also from both our perspectives, not just yours. So, reject this team.

Reject

As a show of good faith, although it doesn't really matter.

 

[marty99]

Alright, I looked, and the only card still out is a TR, which can't do nothing as there's no card to take. So fine, I'll go with whatever you want as long as Cliges and Ark are off.

Wrong. AsdfeZxcas still has Strong Leader I believe.


And given your actions now, if this team is rejected, in fact the only way I could see you possibly being a spy is if AsdfeZxcas is your spymate and he plays his SL card next, as you go after him in the leader order so you'd make it to five proposals. We'd accept one, but you'd be able to torpedo a mission and we still wouldn't know for sure who the last spy was. If AsdfeZcas plays SL after this I'm going to assume he is a spy.

 

[PanzerCorps]

Wrong. AsdfeZxcas still has Strong Leader I believe.


And given your actions now, if this team is rejected, in fact the only way I could see you possibly being a spy is if AsdfeZxcas is your spymate and he plays his SL card next, as you go after him in the leader order so you'd make it to five proposals. We'd accept one, but you'd be able to torpedo a mission and we still wouldn't know for sure who the last spy was. If AsdfeZcas plays SL after this I'm going to assume he is a spy.

Right. And Cliges, the spy, has NC. So we shouldn't let this go to a fifth proposal, no matter what.

 

[aedan777]

Eh, I like this team as is because I designed it so that if panzer and marty are lying and are the spies, then there are 3 spies on this team, meaning it might get triple sabotaged.

 

[marty99]

Eh, I like this team as is because I designed it so that if panzer and marty are lying and are the spies, then there are 3 spies on this team, meaning it might get triple sabotaged.

But we're not (both spies), so we'd advise against that team. I can't blame you for approving, though.