Cliges is a dirty spy
By deduction arkasas also is
I'll accept any team without either of them
By deduction arkasas also is
I'll accept any team without either of them
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Now we need to determine Panzer's innocence. Send a card to AsdfeZxcas, aedan777.
We just have to hope the two aren't both spies, and are both resistance.
This is a logical conclusion, right?
We just have to hope the two aren't both spies, and are both resistance.
This is a logical conclusion, right?
Read my post 193 again, alxeu. It's a bit trickier.
If Panzer is lying, it means Cliges is good and Arkasas also didn't sabotage. Thus, Aedan or Asd sabotaged. Are you really going to ask Asdfezxcas to vouch for Panzer, when there's a 50% chance they're spymates? If they are, Asd says Panzer is good and they've covered one another and they have victory in the bag.
If Panzer is lying, it means Cliges is good and Arkasas also didn't sabotage. Thus, Aedan or Asd sabotaged. Are you really going to ask Asdfezxcas to vouch for Panzer, when there's a 50% chance they're spymates? If they are, Asd says Panzer is good and they've covered one another and they have victory in the bag.
Just a quick note here: Panzer is lying, but I have no time for further commentary about it right at the moment.
I don't trust Falc with any cards. I know that means conveniently I end up getting a card, but Falc's behaviour during mission 3 was too circumstantially suspicious for me to overlook, although his suggestions are sound. Is there any other way we can use this card? I mean, I know you guys love the whole 'chain of trust' thing, but as Falc explains here it often doesn't work that well.
No, not really.
Remember, the spies need 2 more sabotaged missions to win.
Just trust me for this one, there simply is no conceivable way we could lose if you make a team without either Cliges or Arkasas on it.
But only I know that, so what if you make a team without either of them and it fails? Well, then you know for sure that I am a spy, and that the other 2 are on the failed team. (Don't put me on it). If Asdf had said I am resistance, that's 2 spies caught for you.
Come on everyone, you gotta trust me. I made the first successful(albeit flawed) team. I insisted on sending T1 + Ark for mission 2 even though it had 2 spies on. And even if you don't, just let Asdf check me. I've been getting goodie vibes from him since the beginning and am almost certain he'll back me up.
(If I had to guess, I'd say Marty is the third spy, for his misuse of the card last round and fighting against my plan to check Cliges)
'Misuse' I asked everyone what to do with it and the best response was to use it on Arkasas...
Your response wasn't as good. Not my problem.
I don't know if there's any point in me bothering, because just like in werewolf, whenever I'm good everyone thinks I'm evil, and whenever I'm bad, no-one ever suspects me. I'm resistance, so inevitably no one is ever going to trust me with anything here (people suspecting me without doing anything overtly suspicious, getting given the least useful card, having my turn stolen with Strong Leader, not getting put on teams). Meh, not my fault you guys are terrible at reading me. If you can't trust me, then it's up to the other 4 resistance members to win this. *shrug*
I'm thinking of giving the card to have Marty check Arkasas. Panzer's been acting suspicious, and has tried fairly hard to get cards to go his way. Maybe it's just resistance paranoia, but I'm not sure.
Use Overheard Conversation on Arkasas
Let's bust this shit wide open! Hit me, Hemist!
Let's bust this shit wide open! Hit me, Hemist!
Arkasas is a capaci...whatever, I have a blind spot when it comes to spelling that word. I've checked and that means he's a spy. Fuck. Yeah. I think I have a pretty good idea of what the spy team is now.
Also, I am just awesome at reading people. I called Arkasas as a spy right from the start.
Also, I am just awesome at reading people. I called Arkasas as a spy right from the start.
Good, so the only way this is a lie is if Marty and Panzer are spymates, and alphabet as the third, since that's who panzer wanted to verify him. I find that an unlikely spy team. Plus if this next team is double sabotaged, then we just need to switch out this group.
Team of-
Marty
Aedan
Panzer
Alxeu
Alphabet Soup
Approve
Team of-
Marty
Aedan
Panzer
Alxeu
Alphabet Soup
Approve
So, either Panzer/Marty are spies, or Arkasas/Cliges is, with one other unknown spy. We can only keep 3 people off the team, and there is one spy that might not be among these four. I say we choose one person of these 4 to go on the turn, and leave off the other 3.
I...I need a while to think about this. Aedan is striking me as resistance, but I have a feeling despite both of us being on it it still has two spies on it.
In hindsight we now know that there were two spies on mission 3. AND that my ITS card merely helped the spies co-ordinate their actions. It was IIRC AsdfeZxcas who convinced me to use it on Arkasas, and I'm wondering if now that wasn't a ploy. And I'm not really sure if we have anything on Alxeu (we don't, do we?) either way.
Also, me and Panzer aren't spymates, but I have thought he's been acting suspicious a long time.
I strongly suggest everyone takes a long time to mull this over. In this case it won't be holding the game up, because there is a lot to think over here, and I don't want people to vote until we've had several people put up decent arguments. This is likely the crucial mission of this game.
In hindsight we now know that there were two spies on mission 3. AND that my ITS card merely helped the spies co-ordinate their actions. It was IIRC AsdfeZxcas who convinced me to use it on Arkasas, and I'm wondering if now that wasn't a ploy. And I'm not really sure if we have anything on Alxeu (we don't, do we?) either way.
Also, me and Panzer aren't spymates, but I have thought he's been acting suspicious a long time.
I strongly suggest everyone takes a long time to mull this over. In this case it won't be holding the game up, because there is a lot to think over here, and I don't want people to vote until we've had several people put up decent arguments. This is likely the crucial mission of this game.
Wait...is Cliges AUTOMATICALLY a spy if Arkasas is? If so, then brilliant*. I must have missed it or forgot about it, could you lay it out for me pleas
e?
o*In fact, if that is true then this team will win us the game for certain
Hmm. I'm not a spy, but what if Aedan is a spy, and Panzer only suggested me because he knew Aedan wouldn't let me check him...
This seems a bit unlikely, so I'll go out on a limb and
Approve
If this team fails, I say Aedan/Marty/Panzer is the spy team.
This seems a bit unlikely, so I'll go out on a limb and
Approve
If this team fails, I say Aedan/Marty/Panzer is the spy team.
I'd like a response to my question Alphabet. I'm inclined to believe you, but I need confirmation. If you don't tell me I will look through the thread to find out but I am quite busy right now and I'd rather someone spoon-feed it to me.