How can you be that certain? And even though from my POV it's very likely, I've already said that anyone choosing Beta will be considered a self-outed spy. Do you think he'd do it? Would it be that bad?
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How can you be that certain? And even though from my POV it's very likely, I've already said that anyone choosing Beta will be considered a self-outed spy. Do you think he'd do it? Would it be that bad?
If this mission were to be sabotaged, which, while I think aedan is a more likely spy than Arkasas and thus this team is better than the last, is still possible, and Dexander chose Beta, then it'd be basically game over. We'd have to work out all three spies, which is next to impossible.
In Dexander's position, were this mission approved and sabotaged, I'd pick Beta. Even if it wasn't I might still pick it in his shoes.
Am I certain he's a spy? Almost. He's been making the most spyish posts and doing illogical things from a resistance member perspective (and the chemist has been doing well at picking these up), along with aedan.
In Dexander's position, were this mission approved and sabotaged, I'd pick Beta. Even if it wasn't I might still pick it in his shoes.
Am I certain he's a spy? Almost. He's been making the most spyish posts and doing illogical things from a resistance member perspective (and the chemist has been doing well at picking these up), along with aedan.
Oh, so if Dex picks Beta, we're all forced to pick Beta as well? I didn't realize that. Can the GM confirm?
That's how it works, yep. First Leader of a round picks the mission for the whole round. So round 1 was Delta and 2 Epsilon.
At least that's how I understand it, it may be different to what Falc intended.
But if we reject, we're stuck with whatever Alxeu proposes. He's been even quieter than usual, I feel, and while not as suspicious as Dex I wouldn't want to bet this mission's success on him being good.
Dex choosing Beta would only be a disaster if this team is sabotaged: Then the question becomes, what's more likely to be sabotaged, this team, or whatever Alxeu proposes? From my POV it's obviously the latter.
On the other hand, maybe if we could force Alxue to repropose this same team... But would he accept to leave himself off? If he were a spy *or* a resistance member?
Dex choosing Beta would only be a disaster if this team is sabotaged: Then the question becomes, what's more likely to be sabotaged, this team, or whatever Alxeu proposes? From my POV it's obviously the latter.
On the other hand, maybe if we could force Alxue to repropose this same team... But would he accept to leave himself off? If he were a spy *or* a resistance member?
That's how I read it too and the recap on page 1 seems to confirm that. Basically picking a team is this game's equivalent to distributing cards.
I acknowledge that possibility still exists (IIRC, I've thought you were a spy in just about every game so far), but I'm trying to understand how to make sense of your votes and your tone if that's so. I'm open to reconsidering if you give some sort of explanation of your actions and start talking more about who you think are spies, and the like. I can't get a good handle on someone who completely clams up and contributes nothing to the discussion.
GM, can I temporarily withdraw my vote to approve/reject? I need to think about this.
Feel free to withdraw. It's the best way if you need time, otherwise, the vote closes when all votes are in.
Speaking of which, anyone's seen alxeu?
Speaking of which, anyone's seen alxeu?
I've heard that the fine game of resistance needs a sub? I haven't played but I've followed some games (including this one a bit) and I'm willing to take a shot at it.
Well, since alxeu hasn't been seen in more than 48 hours...
HAPPYCATS517 is now subbing for ALXEU
PM will be sent shortly
HAPPYCATS517 is now subbing for ALXEU
PM will be sent shortly
Still don't know why everyone's taking it for granted that madchemist is resistance. He doesn't make obvious tells as a spy, so clearing him for not being stupid is itself stupid. It's actually incredible how pretty much everyone's saying that madchemist is pretty much a confirmed resistance member, and the best reasoning, if they choose to give any reasoning is just 'He's acting like his resistance self'. I find it kind of amusing considering the number of times I've been a spy who convinced the village not to trust resistance member madchemist, but this game spy (?) madchemist is considered cleared and I'm almost a certain spy by many. Now I'll admit madchemist isn't a certain spy. Arkasas is a very possible one, particularly with his decision to roll with the flow, and put Madchemist on the team and act like he's cleared after making this post earlier-
Then his next post after my team gets a bunch of rejections-
So actually scratch what I said about madchemist. This is really odd. It looks like he's just going with whoever seems to be making the best point at the time, and once I stop assuming madchemist is a spy, my posts do seem stuck in tunnel vision. Dexander and alxeu/happycats having the next two teams is problematic, but I don't think they'd be able to get away with it without revealing their spy team. so this team should definitely be rejected and Arkasas should be removed.
Then his next post after my team gets a bunch of rejections-
So actually scratch what I said about madchemist. This is really odd. It looks like he's just going with whoever seems to be making the best point at the time, and once I stop assuming madchemist is a spy, my posts do seem stuck in tunnel vision. Dexander and alxeu/happycats having the next two teams is problematic, but I don't think they'd be able to get away with it without revealing their spy team. so this team should definitely be rejected and Arkasas should be removed.
Alright, I'm gonna reject this mission. I don't like the fact that Panzer and Dex, the two people giving me the most baddie vibes after a quick read through are both approving this. I also don't think it's a smart idea to put three members from the last team on it. We know there's a spy in that team and I find it unlikely that we've managed to choose the three resistance members from that team.
I know this will surprise a few people but alxeu was resistance. So I ask you guys to trust me and reject Dex's mission, no matter what it is and let me propose the last team, which will be myself and two players from this mission proposal (so two of tamius, arkasas, and MC) if that makes everyone happy. I know I'm resistance, so as long as I don't pick the one spy on team 1 then it'll pass.
I know this will surprise a few people but alxeu was resistance. So I ask you guys to trust me and reject Dex's mission, no matter what it is and let me propose the last team, which will be myself and two players from this mission proposal (so two of tamius, arkasas, and MC) if that makes everyone happy. I know I'm resistance, so as long as I don't pick the one spy on team 1 then it'll pass.
Okay, so...
Technically, I have 8 votes, since MC did not actually retract his vote in some bold statement.
However, we have a new player and there's still discussion going on.
So deadline will be in 11 hours and 30 minutes, ie. noon for me.
Technically, I have 8 votes, since MC did not actually retract his vote in some bold statement.
However, we have a new player and there's still discussion going on.
So deadline will be in 11 hours and 30 minutes, ie. noon for me.
Look, I don't get it either. Those who are reading me as resistance happen to be right in this case, which if anything makes me more paranoid, but I'm not going to complain about that. (And I know, I wouldn't complain as a spy either.)
Glad to see you've reconsidered. Now the question that I need to decide for myself is how genuine that reconsideration is. Did you see it wasn't getting you anywhere and switch to an easier/better target, or is this for real?
Welcome to Resistance!
Good post, though I didn't trust your predecessor, and I therefore still regard you with some heavy suspicion. My apologies if I'm wrong. But this is what I expect to see from a reasonable player, regardless of role.
To be completely honest, I don't know what I want to try right now. I still think my read on tamius is solid.
Despite my little attempt at prodding him, Dexander hasn't even replied, so without any indication to the contrary from him, I feel I have to assume he's a spy, even though I'm not even totally sure of that.
Under that assumption, one of Panzer, alxeu, and Rovsea is a spy. And I could see it being any of them, though I still trust Rovsea the most out of that group. Don't know why alxeu's statements have rubbed me entirely the wrong way, but he sounds like my picture of spy alxeu, though his voting record is just fine. And I've never been good at figuring out Panzer.
Finally, there's the aedan/Arky question. Aedan has a decent point about why Arky is suspicious, but I'm always deeply suspicious of aedan just because I know he's a very dangerous spy. I kind of want to approve this mission just so I don't have to think about this, and have aedan cleared if this fails and otherwise have things looking good for us, but I really don't know.
Looking this over, I think I have to reject. This mission already has approvals from Panzer, Rovsea, and Dexander; something has to be wrong with that, as at least one of those must be a spy, no matter what. Maybe I should start feeling better about alxeu/happycats after all.
Confirming my Reject
Hmmm. I don't know what exactly to look for in Resistance, not having much knowledge of the meta. But aedan seems to me to have come up with a rational and viable defense.
Reject
Reject
Sorry MC been sick last week/weekend, just tried to keep myself in the game by voting, not much interest to really focus in it... Yesterday back in work and much to catch up... I´ll get back to you later...
As I see the only thing that makes my a spy is my posts and just a plain assumption.
I rejected two first teams and approved the third as did most of us... it was sabotaged. So one spy in that team (madchemist, aedan777, Arkasas, tamius23) and for me everyone is more or less suspicious...
MC is making analysis and assumptions, to draw attention away from himself or he really is a resistance member... don´t know
aedan is his normal self.... could be spy or not...
Arkasas...no feel at all....maybe a spy...
tamius23... has been pointing me and shouting SPY (even more than MC), maybe this is because he is spy...
SO for me tamius23 seems most likely to be a spy over all others...
I rejected two first teams and approved the third as did most of us... it was sabotaged. So one spy in that team (madchemist, aedan777, Arkasas, tamius23) and for me everyone is more or less suspicious...
MC is making analysis and assumptions, to draw attention away from himself or he really is a resistance member... don´t know
aedan is his normal self.... could be spy or not...
Arkasas...no feel at all....maybe a spy...
tamius23... has been pointing me and shouting SPY (even more than MC), maybe this is because he is spy...
SO for me tamius23 seems most likely to be a spy over all others...
Gut feelings and assumptions.
Feel free to reject my proposal even I get in right team without spies in it...
Do you think that you are cleared just by saying you are resistance or alxeu was? Makes me suspicious.
I know I´m resistance.