... is that is spoiling all the pleasure of playing CKI and just leaving me in front of my keyboard, craving for Q1 2012 to come !
The reason why I loathe CKII...
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Yeah, I'm in a mid-game of CK1 right now, and I have to agree. I keep thinking: this is annoying. If this was CK2 I wouldn't have this problem with keeping my realm together.
It's sort of impacted my ability to enjoy the original, but as my current PC probably couldn't play the sequel anyways, I get over it quickly. Anyone wanna trade PC's? 
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I've restarted playing my CK copy wich I have not played in more then a year, I'm loving it more than any other game. But yes sometimes it feels frustrating.
We know sengoku will have some similarities with CKII, I just hope it doesn't spoil some of the mechanics in CKII. If I could I would resist trying sengoku
I've united Iberia, Occitania, Mauretania, Burgundy, Sicily, and Africa by 1130 with the TASS mod (thanks Veld again by the way), and now it is falling apart. Well, Aquitaine declares independence and the Berber counts in Morocco don't like their new prince-archbishop
By luck the Fatimids conquered Sicily from the Normans (or rather reconquered based on the history I know), and so I took it back for Christendom: The Caliph himself invaded Apulia in turn, only my Aragonese vassals sacked Alexandria and Benghazi, so he was able to come around to my way of thinking
To wit: maybe it should be harder to gobble up religious enemy counties in CK2 by declaring war on their liege then everyone in the realm. In CK1, it is incredibly easy to conquer all of Egypt with 20,000 men. Holding it is not so easy though
But in general I have to ask myself, is not Iberia enough? I kind of miss only having a half dozen vassals by this point in the game who by and large can be counted on not to declare independence every generation or so. So I think more than EU, playing CK well involves a lot of player restraint, because you could conquer half the map in a generation, then things fall apart.
But the thing that is hard about CK1 is keeping your dynasty afloat. I end up giving different parts of the peninsula to different branches of the family, who have no trouble taking counties from their vassals to give them to their kids. I wonder how this will work out in CK2. Part of the trick for the long-term game is keeping titles circulating, because those young men always want their own lands. But titles will return to you if the titleholder dies without any heirs in CK2, so maybe it will not be so hard. Ideally, the progress of a realm like Leon or Aragon would be driven by getting enough new land for the new generation of young bucks. In more settled areas like France or Germany, historically you got a lot more subdivision (and enough rebellions and royal seizures of titles), and dynasties' holdings remained small. Now I'm getting all philosophical on you guys.
Well, let me see this game through to 1399 so I can convert to EU3: HTTT.
I've united Iberia, Occitania, Mauretania, Burgundy, Sicily, and Africa by 1130 with the TASS mod (thanks Veld again by the way), and now it is falling apart. Well, Aquitaine declares independence and the Berber counts in Morocco don't like their new prince-archbishop
By luck the Fatimids conquered Sicily from the Normans (or rather reconquered based on the history I know), and so I took it back for Christendom: The Caliph himself invaded Apulia in turn, only my Aragonese vassals sacked Alexandria and Benghazi, so he was able to come around to my way of thinking
To wit: maybe it should be harder to gobble up religious enemy counties in CK2 by declaring war on their liege then everyone in the realm. In CK1, it is incredibly easy to conquer all of Egypt with 20,000 men. Holding it is not so easy though
But in general I have to ask myself, is not Iberia enough? I kind of miss only having a half dozen vassals by this point in the game who by and large can be counted on not to declare independence every generation or so. So I think more than EU, playing CK well involves a lot of player restraint, because you could conquer half the map in a generation, then things fall apart.
But the thing that is hard about CK1 is keeping your dynasty afloat. I end up giving different parts of the peninsula to different branches of the family, who have no trouble taking counties from their vassals to give them to their kids. I wonder how this will work out in CK2. Part of the trick for the long-term game is keeping titles circulating, because those young men always want their own lands. But titles will return to you if the titleholder dies without any heirs in CK2, so maybe it will not be so hard. Ideally, the progress of a realm like Leon or Aragon would be driven by getting enough new land for the new generation of young bucks. In more settled areas like France or Germany, historically you got a lot more subdivision (and enough rebellions and royal seizures of titles), and dynasties' holdings remained small. Now I'm getting all philosophical on you guys.
Well, let me see this game through to 1399 so I can convert to EU3: HTTT.
wow! with whom did you start? I'm playing CK complete edition. Started as count of coimbra( my city by the way) inherited dukedom of Porto and then Kingdom of Leon and Castille in 3 generations, now I have a schizophrenic king, and the kingdom of Murabitids united all the iberian taifas and caliphates and obliterated Aragon with just the Duke of Barcelona and 2 of is vassals resisting. To the north France is no more, England as a very big piece of France, the Duke of Aquitaine as a lot of territory too and the big empire octopus is spreading is tentacles all over eastern France and Italy. My only hope is to marry my son with the duke of Aquitaine and kill is male heir in hope to backup my leonese armies in my iberian conquest in witch i'm outnumbered 8-1. Relatively speaking i have less power then the count of coimbra to the duke of porto
concerning Ck II and plainly speaking I hope more internal stuff is added to the realm, like we have said in recent treads, would be good a lot of internal mechanics for you as a king to have stuff to do, various points to keep your atention, and for you to not get bored and ending in a massive european conquest. that should be possible, but no the only way to the end game. After all we did not had many empires in this time, why should the game force you on that. A king should feel like a king, ruling is kingdom, should not be boring and obligate you to do conquer just not to do nothing.
wow! with whom did you start? I'm playing CK complete edition. Started as count of coimbra( my city by the way) inherited dukedom of Porto and then Kingdom of Leon and Castille in 3 generations, now I have a schizophrenic king, and the kingdom of Murabitids united all the iberian taifas and caliphates and obliterated Aragon with just the Duke of Barcelona and 2 of is vassals resisting. To the north France is no more, England as a very big piece of France, the Duke of Aquitaine as a lot of territory too and the big empire octopus is spreading is tentacles all over eastern France and Italy. My only hope is to marry my son with the duke of Aquitaine and kill is male heir in hope to backup my leonese armies in my iberian conquest in witch i'm outnumbered 8-1. Relatively speaking i have less power then the count of coimbra to the duke of porto
concerning Ck II and plainly speaking I hope more internal stuff is added to the realm, like we have said in recent treads, would be good a lot of internal mechanics for you as a king to have stuff to do, various points to keep your atention, and for you to not get bored and ending in a massive european conquest. that should be possible, but no the only way to the end game. After all we did not had many empires in this time, why should the game force you on that. A king should feel like a king, ruling is kingdom, should not be boring and obligate you to do conquer just not to do nothing.
I started as Kingdom of Castile this time. Sancho II Jimenez marries Agnes d'Aquitaine, then it's pretty easy there on out. I think that I'll start as a count next time and work my way up.
I'm hoping too that in CK2 there will always be something to do other than fight wars and wait for your children to inherit.
@telesien: Good point. Things like foreign kings inheriting counties here and there and uglying up the map. And dukes just quietly slipping away without even a note home.
"Gee, what's that crappy graphic?"
"Why do all rulers look SO much alike?"
"Yes ! My son has been christened William and not Bohemond or Serlo... there will be a William II in my reign"...
I miss details more than gameplay... (since gameplay in CKI is still great !)
"Why do all rulers look SO much alike?"
"Yes ! My son has been christened William and not Bohemond or Serlo... there will be a William II in my reign"...
I miss details more than gameplay... (since gameplay in CKI is still great !)