the quest for conquest 2: time for war

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You really dont understand dont you?

You had Spain in your list of nations you wanted to play. And if you had taken Spain, Bodvar would have still implemented the current rule of bankrupcies being slept. And when that would have happened when you were Spain, i doubt you would have started to whine about the balance in that. But now when you are France, its in your interest to undermine Spain as much as possible. Im starting to be quite repetative...

And seriously, I dont care enough to check qfc thread to make sure your right about the "we", since you probably did so. And in future, dont consider yourself a majesty and call yourself we when its only you.

 

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Edit: why should only Spain be punished for having millions of gold?

That's the core of the 'new' inflation rule of course.
The principle is: Not only Spain should suffer from owning a signficant amount of gold mines, but all countries should.

The bankruptcy rule was only being dodged by the Spanish player all the time by ceding the trigger provinces anyway.

I believe Lyko formulated an early version of this gold mine rule and Engel+BoB in all their wisdom accepted it the first time in CC3. I adopted it (and slightly changed it) for götterdammerung 2.

 

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I need to know what people want as on-time cookie (If you forget to state it, you don't get any). The AAR-thread is the preferred place to post what you want.

For the ruckus we had with BB last session it will get the following edits (based on instructions I had, and knowing what BB can do):
-one extra domestic click (only one was made during last session)
-can choose to go -1 centra and get another click (naturat did that click, but lemeard was planning to do something else)
-gets one province off hannover (the southern one)+ hannover as vassal (startdate jan 1 1455)
-some tweakings with it's alliance (BRA made leader if it isn't and Hannover added to it)

 

[Sid Meier]

2 scaled sstate gifts please.

 

[BurningEGO]

Engel, you are completely misunderstanding me. I never said Spain should be the only one being punished. The current rule is very good for everyone else. But the bankrupcies are part of the spanish events, and should not be slept. Spain should get forced (historical) bankrupcies, IF they own parts of the inca/aztek realm, so dodging the key provinces wouldnt work in here. IF they do not own parts of either of these, the current rule should be acceptable, for them as well, IMO.

And actually, i find your words absolut crap LJ. No offense mate. But saying i am complaining about the inflation rule just because Spain is my enemy is offensive to my person. If we havent already started, i would personally move to Spain to prove you how wrong you are.

 

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Just drop the hole bankruptcy discussion alltogether, won't be reversed so there is no point in continueing.

 

[BurningEGO]

Alright Bodvar. But please, next time, tell us that before the game roster is up.

 

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AAR's should at least be around 20 lines of continous text

On what screen resolution?

With 1280x1024 Ego is the only one who passes this. I made my AAR bit longer than what Bodvar had, so it should be enough I hope.

 

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edits made:

Braunzweig to Brandenburg
Hannover made vassal of Brandenburg
Brandenburg made leader of alliance and hannover added to it
Calais to France
300d from France to England (ego's AAR contrubuted to my treasury )
War of the roses triggered
AAR- and on-time rewards added
leaders genereated
(edit)BRA sliders: -1centra, +2 offensive.

save

 

[BurningEGO]

Ah yes... I would love to keep having the british as neighbours, but alas, the french people demanded their former land... Who am i to opose the will of the greater french people?

They also demand the anexation of Russia... I shall not disapoint them!

 

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Burgundian inheritance will be unslept and sid will have a version where they are forced to choose option a. It will be forcetriggered after this session if it doesn't fire.


Sid: I forgot to edit in two small things, get on icq.

 

[BurningEGO]

Bodvar: deleting options will not work iirc. Modifying options is the trick. Just copy the same actions from option A, to option B and option C.

 

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okay, I need to do some small tweakings anyways

 

[BurningEGO]

HOW TO MAKE BURGUNDY BE ANEXED BY AUSTRIA VIA EVENT WITHOUT GIVING THE SAME EVENT TO EVERYONE:

#####Burgundy Major Events#######
#By Joakim 'Greven' Bergqwist   #
#   Kristof 'BiB' Haekens       #
#   Henrik 'Doomdark' Fåhraeus  #
#   Petter 'Carolus Rex' Carnbro#
#################################

#The Marriage of Anne of Burgundy#
event = {
	id = 3597
	trigger = {
		exists = FRA
		exists = HAB
		atwar = no
	}
	random = no
	country = BUR
	name = "EVENTNAME3597"
	desc = "EVENTHIST3597"
	style = 1

	date = { day = 3 month = june year = 1476 }
	offset = 0
	deathdate = { day = 4 month = june year = 1484 }

	action_a ={
		name = "ACTIONNAME3597A"	#Maximilian of Austria#
		command = { type = independence which = GEL }
		command = { type = independence which = FRI }
		command = { type = independence which = KLE }
		command = { type = independence which = HAN }
		command = { type = independence which = KOL }
		command = { type = independence which = LOR }
                command = { type = independence which = PFA }
                command = { type = revolt which = 334 }
		command = { type = revolt which = 334 }
		command = { type = revolt which = 335 }
		command = { type = revolt which = 335 }
		command = { type = revolt which = 336 }
		command = { type = revolt which = 336 }
                command = { type = secedeprovince which = FRA value = 376 }
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = FRA value = 379 }
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = FRA value = 382 }
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = FRA value = 383 }
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = FRA value = 384 }
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = FRA value = 386 }
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = FRA value = 387 }
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = FRA value = 405 }
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = FRA value = 407 }
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = FRA value = 408 }
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = FRA value = 409 }
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = FRA value = 410 }
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = FRA value = 411 }
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = FRA value = 412 }
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = FRA value = 419 }
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = FRA value = 420 }
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = FRA value = 421 }
		command = { type = trigger which = 3178 } # HAB
		command = { type = trigger which = 3320 } # FRA
	}

	action_b ={
		name = "ACTIONNAME3597B"	#Charles of France#
		command = { type = independence which = GEL }
		command = { type = independence which = FRI }
		command = { type = independence which = KLE }
		command = { type = independence which = HAN }
		command = { type = independence which = KOL }
		command = { type = independence which = LOR }
                command = { type = independence which = PFA }
                command = { type = revolt which = 334 }
		command = { type = revolt which = 334 }
		command = { type = revolt which = 335 }
		command = { type = revolt which = 335 }
		command = { type = revolt which = 336 }
		command = { type = revolt which = 336 }
                command = { type = secedeprovince which = FRA value = 376 }
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = FRA value = 379 }
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = FRA value = 382 }
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = FRA value = 383 }
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = FRA value = 384 }
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = FRA value = 386 }
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = FRA value = 387 }
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = FRA value = 405 }
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = FRA value = 407 }
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = FRA value = 408 }
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = FRA value = 409 }
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = FRA value = 410 }
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = FRA value = 411 }
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = FRA value = 412 }
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = FRA value = 419 }
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = FRA value = 420 }
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = FRA value = 421 }
		command = { type = trigger which = 3178 } # HAB
		command = { type = trigger which = 3320 } # FRA
	}

	action_c ={
		name = "ACTIONNAME3597C"	#Charles the Bold never died#
		command = { type = independence which = GEL }
		command = { type = independence which = FRI }
		command = { type = independence which = KLE }
		command = { type = independence which = HAN }
		command = { type = independence which = KOL }
		command = { type = independence which = LOR }
                command = { type = independence which = PFA }
                command = { type = revolt which = 334 }
		command = { type = revolt which = 334 }
		command = { type = revolt which = 335 }
		command = { type = revolt which = 335 }
		command = { type = revolt which = 336 }
		command = { type = revolt which = 336 }
                command = { type = secedeprovince which = FRA value = 376 }
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = FRA value = 379 }
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = FRA value = 382 }
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = FRA value = 383 }
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = FRA value = 384 }
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = FRA value = 386 }
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = FRA value = 387 }
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = FRA value = 405 }
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = FRA value = 407 }
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = FRA value = 408 }
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = FRA value = 409 }
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = FRA value = 410 }
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = FRA value = 411 }
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = FRA value = 412 }
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = FRA value = 419 }
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = FRA value = 420 }
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = FRA value = 421 }
		command = { type = trigger which = 3178 } # HAB
		command = { type = trigger which = 3320 } # FRA
        }

}

Basically, it is just copy all the efects from option A, into option B and C. And yes, this will work. I already tested with Joohoo, and i was already aware of this, because we used this sucessfully in ORR already as well.

 

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nice, there is a few alterments I needed to do with the scenario that I forgot. So Sid needs to get that. Sid, it will be most convenient if you just copy and paste that over the current event, if I can send it over ICQ. I'll have to host the modified version of the scenario or send it over ICQ pre-session. Going to bed soonish though.

 

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Is the land/naval slider locked in this game? I read the rules but didn't find it. But I thought that at sometime it has been mentioned.

 

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no land-slider lock

 

[BurningEGO]

This is pure bullshit. Sid edited the goddamn event for his own benefit. The trigger where Burgundy would be inherited WOULDNT FIRE IF BURGUNDY WAS AT WAR. Check the event, or do what you want, this is bullshit.

I demand that Burgundy with all his former provinces is released, Austria looses his cores on the low lands (as well as France), and the war with Poland is re-enacted.

 

[BurningEGO]

Bodvar:

You are a GM, and i would like you to start acting as such. I screamed in the game, said what was wrong and what wasnt. You did not hear it. I asked you in ICQ, you did not answer it either. This makes me totaly unable to ask the GM to act. In fact, Sid has been in total control of the game, rehosting when he wants or when he does not.


If things arent fixed, you better start looking for a new french player.

 

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Report for Sweden

-Peaced Pskov and Novgorod
-Built an army and reinforced the fleet
-Attacked Denmark, you now control Copenhagen, Oslo and another province, England prevented me from continuing the war on a full scale although you have troops ready to attack after the winter
-Got attacked by England, the war now is a stalemate with him controlling Holstein, Gotland and Estonia

Thats about it, I couldnt do much seeing as England was being evil.