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When I first encountered this problem, I thought it was something that just escaped the devs, but a few patches later and it's still there.

When Byzantium is fully annexed by the Ottomans, their cores start to disappear. Since the Greek provinces are associated with the Byzantine cores instead of Greek cores, when the Byzantine cores are gone the Greek provinces have no cores besides the Ottoman ones left. This is unlike Bulgaria, Serbia and Albania who have their national cores in place throughout the game even after being conquered due to the "never disappears" national mechanic. The Greek cores reappear if the Greeks revolt, which they rarely do because they're an accepted culture and the Ottomans (ahistorically) manage to convert the Balkans in a century.

Aside from this, when the Greeks actually do revolt, they often revolt into feudal duchies like Epirus and Crete instead of Greece the nationstate which seems a bit counterproductive from a nationalist standpoint.

What's my problem with this? If you're playing a third party, like Russia or Austria, and want to dismantle the Ottoman Empire, there's no way to release Greece without stupid workarounds like conquering a Greek region, making them revolt, then release them as a vassal, and then feed that vassal. Yet historically, they were one of the most eager nations to break away.

Edit: also the new purple color is too obnoxious :p
 
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I'm looking at my Russia save and there are none in 1704. All regions are Sunni if that makes a difference.
The event doesnt always happen it has a MTTH. I think the event should happen sooner tho just so when greek rebels appear they try to gain independence for Greece and not for Athens lol
 

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The event doesnt always happen it has a MTTH. I think the event should happen sooner tho just so when greek rebels appear they try to gain independence for Greece and not for Athens lol
Yeah, the way it's designed right now produces strange results. I don't see the value in having "Ottoman particularists" in Greece when the rest of the Balkans and even places like Syria and Iraq are bursting with nationalism.
 

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This event was added in the last patch as I recall. :)
There is no year check, this is what the event requires:
1: A province in the Greek region, with Greek culture.
2: An owner to that province that hasn't got Greek or Pontic primary culture and who has reached adm tech 20 (ie around the mid 1600s).
3: Greece or Byzantium can't exist.

Mean time to happen is 120 months.
Byzantine cores will at the earliest disappear in 1594 (should the Ottomans manage to annex them entirely in 1444). If there are still Byzantine cores around when the event triggers they are removed at that time.
 
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I propose that you add back byzantine cores to all greek provinces, and have an event fire when byzantium is eliminated that turns all byzantine cores into greek ones.
 
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