"The Princess is in this Castle" becoming Impossible?

[Philarete]

With the building changes, will it still be possible to build a Royal Palace? Sorry if this has been addressed before.

EDIT: Here's Wiz's answer!
"The Princess is in this Castle" becoming Impossible?

EDIT2: I'm an idiot and don't know how to do the inline quotation on an edit. Oh well.

 

[gabadur]

They haven't announced how the changes will affect special buildings

 

[Philarete]

They haven't announced how the changes will affect special buildings

Fair enough, though it would be nice if they would just say something like "We'll rewrite the requirements if we take out the special building."

 

[Golladan]

Fair enough, though it would be nice if they would just say something like "We'll rewrite the requirements if we take out the special building."

It's common sense.

 

[Zelius]

It's common sense.

And so, it begins...

 

[Philarete]

And so, it begins...

We're going ride that joke into the ground, and we're going to love it.

 

[Aries666]

Unique buildings are being removed (it was confirmed in the first DD but lost during tge forum chane) so unless the palace has an analogue that the achievment gets tied to then yes it will be impossible.

 

[chrnno]

And so, it begins...

This is the voice I always read that later part in:

 

[Castrolol]

I'm pretty sure Johan said something about unique buildings being scrapped as an answer to a question in one of the dev diary threads.

As for the achievement it will be trivial to change. They could change it back to ruler and heir being female, ruler and advisor female, two female advisors, etc, etc.

 

[shoki]

they could change it to: have a female heir and a XXX developed province.

 

[ParadogsGamer]

they could change it to: have a female heir and a XXX developed province.

Does California qualify as an XXX developed province? ;-)

 

[Orkonkel]

To be honest, I don't see any problem in there being 'legacy' achievements. It'd be pretty cool actually, being able to do achievements that will later become unavailable. Shows you're dedicated to the game et cetera.

 

[Prince Ire]

To be honest, I don't see any problem in there being 'legacy' achievements. It'd be pretty cool actually, being able to do achievements that will later become unavailable. Shows you're dedicated to the game et cetera.

And makes everyone who buys the game later but still cares about achievements angry and spiteful.

 

[Vordus]

And makes everyone who buys the game later but still cares about achievements angry and spiteful.

Achievements are so important, cant play a game without it right? Tbh I think achievements was one of the most stupid thing to add in all kind of games, whats the point.

 

[Prince Ire]

Achievements are so important, cant play a game without it right? Tbh I think achievements was one of the most stupid thing to add in all kind of games, whats the point.

I have earned precisely zero achievements due to never playing a moment of ironman, so I don't personally care about them. I just think that making a once possible achievement impossible would be insanely frutrating to future players should they care about achievments themselves.

 

[shoki]

Achievements are so important, cant play a game without it right?

Only because you don't like achievement doesn't mean nobody like them.

I like doing achievements. It gives me a goal and i can later better remember what i did in this game and what was fun. Impossible achievements are a no-go. It's realy frustrating if you aren't able to complete a game 100% (not that i would ever do the three mountains, but that is because of a lack of my own skill and not the games fault)

 

[Kirkegaard]

And makes everyone who buys the game later but still cares about achievements angry and spiteful.

You can just jump back to an earlier patch and do it there. I have done that myself for an achivement or two.

 

[Philarete]

Achievements are so important, cant play a game without it right? Tbh I think achievements was one of the most stupid thing to add in all kind of games, whats the point.

I'm one of those achievement seekers. I only have 6 friends on steam and none of them play EUIV, so it's not a bragging rights issue. I just enjoy setting a mission and accomplishing it. It's like Paradox issued me a challenge and I want to prove to myself that I can do it. The little pop-up when I get there just makes my day. Plus, I like how it makes my profile look cooler with pretty pictures

I do understand the concern about achievements ruining the sandbox experience (e.g. why Kerbal Space Program doesn't have them). But I think EUIV is directional enough that it makes sense. In any case, I enjoy them, so I hope Paradox keeps them coming.

 

[aragonFTW]

Achievements like No Trail Of Tears or African Power are dramatically different now to how they were at release/implementation. No reason why this one can't change either. If you want to play the old way, get the achievement with an older patch version.

 

[Philarete]

Achievements like No Trail Of Tears or African Power are dramatically different now to how they were at release/implementation. No reason why this one can't change either. If you want to play the old way, get the achievement with an older patch version.

Interesting, didn't know about those. The only one I knew about was Jihad. Seems fine to me to change the requirements, just so long as the achievement stays possible.