The Presidents: 1836-1936 - An Interactive US AAR

[Devotist]

Alright, Mr. Jarvis. To have our sacred institutions and history forsaken is such a terrible sight, however...

We hope the Democratic-Federalist coalition will prove as competent as previous administrations, as well as aware of the liberties of a conscious people.

 

[Revan529]

I agree, but in four years... ((or some Act of God somehow ruining your candidacy Mr. Callahan... which would be horrible ))

 

[Devotist]

((Horrible. At least for the first time in history a somewhat none-mainstream government is taking power. But how long will Democratic-Federalist synergy last once they hold the reins of power? I fear the possibility of Republicans just being outvoted as well. Not even the mighty Senate, protector of small states and minorities, can help!))

 

[William the III]

I would also like to question how we can take the moral high ground, and fight wars of liberty, or liberation, whilst we are aligned with the British, who horribly mistreat the Indians, and all their colonial peoples, the Prussians, who are running roughshod over central Europe, and now a possible alignment with the Russians, whose serfs live in abject poverty? This great... paradox, that we can fight wars for freedom, whilst are allies' people live in chains, is great. Furthermore, by claiming that moral high ground, are we not acquainting ourselves with the doctrines of old imperialism, war of civilization, war for Christ, and wars for 'freedom from savagery?'

I must remind you sir that Tsar Alexander of Russia Freed only shortly after our own slaves were freed, and what the Prussians are doing in Europe is simply bringing self-goverment over the peoples of germany, rather than rule by some far off Hapsburg monarch. As for the british they have simply been uniting territory that had no previous goverment or organization. I am sure that one day, when those peoples have learned to rule themselves they will seek and receive freedom, as we did only a century past.

((BBB: Did Alexander live long enough to make russia a constitutional goverment, or was he killed before? Also don't forgret about the Staue of Liberty, maybe we could get some bonus points with the french for that))

 

[Mikeboy]

((Ah the Republicans calling the other side communists, good job you'll never get that in the real world.))

The collapse in Republican support is simply the result of the lack of popular support for their ridiculous policies, and gives a clear mandate to the fine policies that would be enacted under a Federal-Democratic administration. Long live the USA, long live justice, and may freedom find the peoples of Cuba!

 

[Devotist]

((It's alright. Mr. Brockman proudly carries along the "dictatorship" banner.))

 

[Revan529]

Yes, but remember the Czar's hold on power is growing more tenuous, and that both the reactionaries and anarchists have been trying to kill him ((we've studied him in my history class... last good Czar (and he was killed the day he was going to sign that constitution into law, IIRC))). As well, the Austrians are German, and are more in line with the South Germans than the Prussians are. Yes, I'm certain the 'savages' the British brought 'civilization' to them ((I've seen some horrible pictures of what the British did to Indian rebels)).

 

[William the III]

I am deeply insulted that some of my fellow congressmen have referred to Callaghan and my glorius party as some kind of Socialist!
I must remind you that I was once a republican too and believe fully in free trade and non-interventionism!

'Damn communist,want to take my money....I'll show them, I'll show them all!...(mutter,mutter)

((P.S. Was Callaghan originally a federal or democrat?))

 

[Revan529]

Since all the cool kids are doing it.
Name: Mr Eamon Callahan (Born 1825)
Occupations:
U.S. Army Engineer and Artillery Officer (Retired Colonel), 1848-65
New England Railroad Union Chairman, 1865-72
LUF Rail Industry Chairman, 1872-?
General-Secretary of the Labor Union Federation, 1872-73 (Provisional), 1873-? (Official)
Hometown:Biloxi, Mississipi
Residence: Concord, New Hampshire
Ideology: American Social-Unionism (Democratic Socialist)
Party Affiliation: National Republican (Antebellum), Independent Liberal (War-time), Libertarian (Post-war)

By coordinating and rallying the dispirited New England Railroad Brotherhood, he rose in profile amongst the trade union movement. By 1867, he was prepared to issue the declaration of a Social Unionist movement that aimed to cement the role of the unions as a grassroots support base for Democratic Socialism, and counteract revolutionary Marxist-Vinogradism.

As a newly elected union Chairman and spokesman of a fledgling democratic socialist faction he was resigned to pursuing a support role in the next election. However a surprising endorsement from fellow union boss Beukes spurred Callahan to run in 1868 on a whim. In a surprise to Republican and Democrat speculation he came head-to-head with Christopher Bryan in a close-run but remarkably civil race, with Callahan eventually conceding and accepting his second Vice-Presidential nomination. The election saw the Bryan-Callahan ticket lead the Libertarians to overtake the Republican in the polls and only narrowly lost to the incumbant New Democrat Jamous.

In the spring of 1871 Callahan watched with indignant horror as the police joined in the the busting of striking syndicalist unionists in Illinois. When state governments began the "Bloody May" repression of anarcho-syndacalist groups in the mid-west and the "Little Anarchy" was drawing more and more unionists into the bloody reprisal, he was among those who sheltered the wounded and harboured the hunted. This tragedy would spur his faction to public action in their advocacy of free association, the drafting of the Pittsburgh Accord and the creation of the Labor Union Federation to represent the union movement on the national level.

The Social Unionists initiative in the proposal secured his place as a Rail Union Chairman and Eamon's prominence in the negotiations would lead him to become the inaugural General-Secretary of the LUF on a provisional basis until the next scheduled election. As a concession to the non-partisan nature of the Federation, he ruled out any candidacy in the Presidential Nominations of 1872.

After Mandrake's landslide victory, he was appointed a Commissioner of Federal Rail Infrastructure and used his leverage to keep union-busters out of lucrative contracts. At the same time, the dominant Nationalist-Vinogradist faction dissolved the Libertarian Party as the other factions had failed to support their failed candidate in another swing at the Presidency. Cast adrift from political affiliation, Callahan sought to use the LUF to keep Social Unionism intact by stacking the membership in branches of the New Democrat Party.

He's called himself a socialist... numerous times. He was a Democrat, and Libertarian, then a Democrat, now Unity.

 

[Devotist]

I sincerely doubt Mr.Glynn genuinely wanted Cuban independence before the Confederates relocated there or the issue became popular with his electorate and party.

He also forgets there has been precedence regarding Republican administration, compared to Democratic-Federalist policies. The Republicans have been in power for many years, they have presided over war and peace, protecting the public welfare in peace and ensuring its enforcement in war, whereas this coalition has not demonstrated the competence of its leadership or its policies.

 

[William the III]

Yes, but remember the Czar's hold on power is growing more tenuous, and that both the reactionaries and anarchists have been trying to kill him ((we've studied him in my history class... last good Czar (and he was killed the day he was going to sign that constitution into law, IIRC))). As well, the Austrians are German, and are more in line with the South Germans than the Prussians are. Yes, I'm certain the 'savages' the British brought 'civilization' to them ((I've seen some horrible pictures of what the British did to Indian rebels)).

(( He was assasinated in 1881, so there is still some time to decide whether Russia is going to have constitutional goverment))

Perhaps if we were to...push Russia in the direction of liberty through so friendly diplomatic banter, they would be more forthcoming to the creation of a legislature and constitution.

Some may accuse me and my party of imperialism, but how can we say we are defenders of liberty if we do not not advocate it abroad? You would have us turn to hipocrisy, sitting in our nation here while the rest of the wotrl remains oppressed! The constitutional monarchies of the UK and the NGF are far better than the autocracy of Madrid or Vienna.

 

[Devotist]

Why not free the Chinese from their Manchu government, Ukrainians and Polish men from the Czar, the people of the Balkan from the Ottoman Empire, Norway from Sweden? How can you call yourself defenders of liberty by supporting Cuba and only Cuba? Is it not imperialism if we just focus on relinquishing Spanish control of Cuba, or focusing on Spain? If Confederates fled to Canada or Mexico, would you make war on the countries which govern these territories?

Go to war for every oppressed people on the face of this planet, or there shall be no place for your interventionist "defense of liberty" abroad. Being selective implies a lack of sincerity.

 

[Seek75]

Yes, Mr. Leo, surely we can diplomatically convince Russia to adopt a constitution.

Oh, wait, that's right. We tried that in Prussia, now they're more absolutist than they were before.

Surely you cannot be this dim? If Bismarck, who, at the very most, has from time to time flirted with the idea (if only to gain more influence for himself) didn't accept, what on earth makes you think the backwards Russians who have been tsarist and despotic since time immemorial will? Do not be a fool.

 

[Devotist]

He does not advocate war with Russia in order to establish liberty, but does he fully advocate invading Spain for a tiny colony? Oh yes. I see no need to pretend we are being protectors of the wrld when we're far from it. Who will guard the guardsman, in any case?

 

[Revan529]

((I'm still going that it doesn't happen, since there is not reason to say it would))

We could inspire all nations to end war by being peaceful, liberal, and trade oriented as well.

I do not believe in nation building, or engaging in wars of expansion, liberation, or other such folly. Yes, but the British are barely better to their own subjects. Imperialism is a force for tyrants and exploiters, and we should lower ourselves to that, especially in the name of Liberty!

((look up British soldiers shooting cannons into Indians, or somesuch
actually look up Sepoy Rebellions, brutal, tyrannical, and utterly sadistic))

 

[Devotist]

((We should lower ourselves to that? ))

I would agree with Mr. Jarvis except that he forgets California was placed in our hands by the force of arms protected by divine Providence. There is a time for war, yes, but not for Cuba or the imperialist "defense of liberty"!

 

[zagoroth]

I vote for Henry Jarvis!

(just because)

 

[Revan529]

((YAEZ!!! A few more of these, a major Rivera moment could happen!)

 

[King50000]

((YAEZ!!! A few more of these, a major Rivera moment could happen!)

((Only this isn't a primary, its a national election. and it seems like that's the last of the Republican membership))

 

[Devotist]

((The Republican Party lost, what, 2/3 of its voters from last election?))