I've contacted Mr Callahan to see the prospects of a fusion ticket, I've established the issues on which we won't compromise and look forward to seeing his reply.
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Congress, the Body of the Republic, and the Supreme Court, the Guardian of the Constitution, would act as barriers to any oppression I, a capitalistic liberal pacifist, would thrust upon the American people. However, it proves my point about Mr. Callahan, the champion of democracy, socialism, imperialism, conquest, and economic oppression, if his ideal of a democracy would arise.
That I respect the right of the individual, the greatest minority in existence, is a testament to my believe in that liberalism, the rule of law, and republicanism, and I would never trample on the rights granted to men by God!
((history moment: Woodrow Wilson, when he implemented the Federal Income tax, he promised that no-one would be taxed above a certain percent, though eventually, teh rich would be taxed at ninety percent! Though of course, through tax shelters, some of them didn't pay anywhere near that (or anything at all).))
That I respect the right of the individual, the greatest minority in existence, is a testament to my believe in that liberalism, the rule of law, and republicanism, and I would never trample on the rights granted to men by God!
((history moment: Woodrow Wilson, when he implemented the Federal Income tax, he promised that no-one would be taxed above a certain percent, though eventually, teh rich would be taxed at ninety percent! Though of course, through tax shelters, some of them didn't pay anywhere near that (or anything at all).))
I shall wait for the outcome of this fusion ticket and cast my vote for whoever impresses.
Please explain, Mr. Jarvis. Is the United Kingdom a democracy under your definition? What is your definition?
The United Kingdom... is different from a democracy and a republic. It is a hybrid. It has the Queen, who holds no substantive power, a Prime Minister who is elected in a republican way, and a Parliament chosen by both the elites, and the common people. However, this is neither here nor there, and I fail to see how this affects our discussion.
Look at the Greek states of old! Broken, petty, and wholly unable to function on a grand scale. Democracy can function, poorly, on a city scale; it is utterly useless on a national scale. And when certain Greek states did expend, Athens for instance, it rarely grants freedom to its vassals, causing fractionalism. Further, the autocratic Spartans were able to use the gridlock of Athenian democracy to their advantage.
The ultimate problem I have with Callahan's tax bill is that it allows the government too much room to steal the people's money; Double what my proposal could do, at worst. Why should any man be deprived of one-fourth of his living? I propose a maximum of one-tenth, good enough for God, and a solid balanced budget amendment, while he advocates a much larger spending plan, and a much weaker plan against the deficit.
Look at the Greek states of old! Broken, petty, and wholly unable to function on a grand scale. Democracy can function, poorly, on a city scale; it is utterly useless on a national scale. And when certain Greek states did expend, Athens for instance, it rarely grants freedom to its vassals, causing fractionalism. Further, the autocratic Spartans were able to use the gridlock of Athenian democracy to their advantage.
The ultimate problem I have with Callahan's tax bill is that it allows the government too much room to steal the people's money; Double what my proposal could do, at worst. Why should any man be deprived of one-fourth of his living? I propose a maximum of one-tenth, good enough for God, and a solid balanced budget amendment, while he advocates a much larger spending plan, and a much weaker plan against the deficit.
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The fact that we are not a dictatorship is incontrovertible proof that we are a democracy. If we were not, then one man or faction would have the power and the responsibility to take over, to overturn elections, and to subvert the sovereignty of the American people in order to hold them to their singular vision of what should be. That is what every republic that was not a democracy fell to, and the kind of possibility that former Vice-President Jarvis seems to seeking to leave open with his ravings.
If this country was meant to be such that powerful men could gain any sway what so ever accusing their opponents of being unconstitutional because they disagreed with his own personal views, not aligned with those of the Founders or with anyone else other than himself, then we would be a monarchy - not a republic.
No republic could ever stand without democracy and not gain the characteristics of an absolute monarchy.
And on a personal note, I think Mr.Jarvis should apologize to the American people for decrying their views, the views of his opponents and their supporters, in this election and previous, as unconstitutional or unamerican. To seek to gain an edge over the American people, the ones whom the government is supposed to serve and gains its only legitimacy from, not by convincing them you are right but by setting up your own views - personally concocted by yourself in your lifetime and with no greater significance to them - as having more weight than their own, is thoroughly unacceptable behavior for an elected official.
If you were some non-office-holding candidate or agitator that might excuse you, sir, but the way you have conducted yourself has been nothing but the characteristics of insults and fearmongering; setting up your beliefs to be more important than what the voters themselves believe, setting up yourself to be worth more than one man and one vote.
Even without ever holding the supreme office in the land yourself you have consistently taken on the airs of a supreme autocrat; I shudder to imagine what the views of someone who never feels the need to consult the people except when to shout out them for exercising their constitutional rights to democracy.
If this country was meant to be such that powerful men could gain any sway what so ever accusing their opponents of being unconstitutional because they disagreed with his own personal views, not aligned with those of the Founders or with anyone else other than himself, then we would be a monarchy - not a republic.
No republic could ever stand without democracy and not gain the characteristics of an absolute monarchy.
And on a personal note, I think Mr.Jarvis should apologize to the American people for decrying their views, the views of his opponents and their supporters, in this election and previous, as unconstitutional or unamerican. To seek to gain an edge over the American people, the ones whom the government is supposed to serve and gains its only legitimacy from, not by convincing them you are right but by setting up your own views - personally concocted by yourself in your lifetime and with no greater significance to them - as having more weight than their own, is thoroughly unacceptable behavior for an elected official.
If you were some non-office-holding candidate or agitator that might excuse you, sir, but the way you have conducted yourself has been nothing but the characteristics of insults and fearmongering; setting up your beliefs to be more important than what the voters themselves believe, setting up yourself to be worth more than one man and one vote.
Even without ever holding the supreme office in the land yourself you have consistently taken on the airs of a supreme autocrat; I shudder to imagine what the views of someone who never feels the need to consult the people except when to shout out them for exercising their constitutional rights to democracy.
What is the republican way then? The Prime Minister is elected by the Parliament which is elected by the people (so long as you do not consider women and homeless beings people, of course). Is that democratic or republican?
Now, you are arguing semantics, Mr. Bridgeworthy.
I will grant you this; republics have similarities with democracies. I've never challenged that precept. However, a pure, unabashed democracy, as I, and Thomas Jefferson, have argued, it is a tyranny of the majority. A republic has checks and balances in the form of a Congress, and in our case, a Supreme Court. In a democracy, those cannot exist, as they separate the people from the leader, thereby allowing the rule of men, rather than the rule of law.
As for fearmongering, I am merely calling him what he calls himself; he is a socialist, a unionist, and a democrat. As well, I have yet to see him argue how his proposals are constitutional, and I have always backed up my case with statements from the Constitution and our Founders, as well as Karl Marx saying that "democracy is the road to socialism."
That I advocate freedom, liberty, capitalism, and self-determination, I am an autocrat? Sir, I believe you are badly mistaken, or, as Mr. Howard would have said, blind.
And Mr. Walsh, I have stated before, it a hybrid of democracy, republic, and oligarchy. But I still fail to see how it is relevant to our discussion.
I will grant you this; republics have similarities with democracies. I've never challenged that precept. However, a pure, unabashed democracy, as I, and Thomas Jefferson, have argued, it is a tyranny of the majority. A republic has checks and balances in the form of a Congress, and in our case, a Supreme Court. In a democracy, those cannot exist, as they separate the people from the leader, thereby allowing the rule of men, rather than the rule of law.
As for fearmongering, I am merely calling him what he calls himself; he is a socialist, a unionist, and a democrat. As well, I have yet to see him argue how his proposals are constitutional, and I have always backed up my case with statements from the Constitution and our Founders, as well as Karl Marx saying that "democracy is the road to socialism."
That I advocate freedom, liberty, capitalism, and self-determination, I am an autocrat? Sir, I believe you are badly mistaken, or, as Mr. Howard would have said, blind.
And Mr. Walsh, I have stated before, it a hybrid of democracy, republic, and oligarchy. But I still fail to see how it is relevant to our discussion.
I believe the UKs system of democracy is just as good (if not better than) ours. However this argument is irrelevant anyway. As for the tax acts, I side with Mr Callahan. Your idea of taxation Mr Jarvis, does not convince me and seems unfair to the poorest.
Alfred Howard
Representative of Boston
CEO of Howard Industries
Alfred Howard
Representative of Boston
CEO of Howard Industries
If the industrialists are taxed more highly, how can the poor ever hope to have more wealth?
If we place burden on business, how can our companies thrive?
If we regulate and mandate, how can our market be efficient and expand?
We often talk about fairness to the poor; what about fairness to all people? Why should on man be taxed at ninety percent (a not-unreasonable amount historically), while another pays nothing? Is that fair? What about forcing the rich to pay for government programmes aimed at redistributing wealth? Are those fair?
But worst of all, what about depriving a man of a job? Ensuring he is bound to the government, sucking at the teat of a engorged, vile, corrupt beast, blindly accepting it. Is this what we want? A nanny-state? Bureaucracy to pay for social programmes that only create more dependency, like an opiate? Earlier, I asked Mr. Callahan about his views on social programmes; in his original platform, he would not accept more social spending without tax cuts. Would this unionist, socialist, redistributer, who 'cares so much for the poor,' really leave them in their current 'horrendous state?'
If we place burden on business, how can our companies thrive?
If we regulate and mandate, how can our market be efficient and expand?
We often talk about fairness to the poor; what about fairness to all people? Why should on man be taxed at ninety percent (a not-unreasonable amount historically), while another pays nothing? Is that fair? What about forcing the rich to pay for government programmes aimed at redistributing wealth? Are those fair?
But worst of all, what about depriving a man of a job? Ensuring he is bound to the government, sucking at the teat of a engorged, vile, corrupt beast, blindly accepting it. Is this what we want? A nanny-state? Bureaucracy to pay for social programmes that only create more dependency, like an opiate? Earlier, I asked Mr. Callahan about his views on social programmes; in his original platform, he would not accept more social spending without tax cuts. Would this unionist, socialist, redistributer, who 'cares so much for the poor,' really leave them in their current 'horrendous state?'
I'm not saying that the rich should be taxed excessively, that would be terrible. However I would like to see the poor taxed slightly less and the rich taxed slightly more.
((I thought the vote for me and the vote for Mikeboy were actual votes...))
After I announced Harrison would break the deadlock at 10 AM, there were no new votes.
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Confederate States of America
Hereby exclaiming the Defense of the Nation should be achieved, by General Order of the Confederate Congress and President of the Confederate States, I do allocate the following;
Confederate States of America
Hereby exclaiming the Defense of the Nation should be achieved, by General Order of the Confederate Congress and President of the Confederate States, I do allocate the following;
1. The Confederate Government, In seeing the new-found belligerency of the United States, hereby offers any former American citizen under the control of the Confederate Government in Cuba to be released to the United States of America.
2. The Confederate Government still claims legitimacy over the Southern States of the Confederacy, occupied by the United States.
3. The Confederate Government recognizes Adelbert Johnson as the New President of the Confederate Government in Exile by the recent elections.
Wonderful news! I'm happy the rebel government has had some sense knocked into their brains.
Pity that everyone with a pulse will still hunger for Cuban blood, despite the complete and utter lack of any true reason other than petty vengeance.
Pity that everyone with a pulse will still hunger for Cuban blood, despite the complete and utter lack of any true reason other than petty vengeance.
That announcement from the Confederate terrorists in not a surrender and changes nothing. They still claim the Southern States as theirs and have a new leader who is not offering to surrender himself to us. The liberation of Cuba is about the Spanish support of the confederate violence against the US and general Spanish tyranny in enslaving the Cuban people. The Republicans were the party that supported ending the evil that is slavery in our nation, why do they turn a blind eye to it 90 miles from our shores.
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glare: Leave it to my old sparring partner to come in swinging against the resurgent spectre of the Confederacy))
((BBB, if Denmark doesn't still own the islands I will delete. I know this is not an event in game, so let me know if it is not allowed))
1. The President shall have the authority to negotiate with the Danish Government regarding the sale of the Danish Virgin Islands ("DVI") to the United States.
2. The Treasury is authorized to transfer an amount not to exceed ______ to Denmark in consideration for the transfer of the DVI to the United States.
3. In the event slavery is still permitted on the DVI, it shall be abolished if they become a territory of the United States.
I am open to suggestions on the maximum price we will authorize. I hope that a member of Congress will sponsor this proposal so that the next President will be able to exercise this authority if he so chooses.
Due to my entry into politics I will no longer have an editorial voice at The Examiner, but will continue to own the enterprise.
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Act to Authorize purchase of Danish Virgin Islands
1. The President shall have the authority to negotiate with the Danish Government regarding the sale of the Danish Virgin Islands ("DVI") to the United States.
2. The Treasury is authorized to transfer an amount not to exceed ______ to Denmark in consideration for the transfer of the DVI to the United States.
3. In the event slavery is still permitted on the DVI, it shall be abolished if they become a territory of the United States.
I am open to suggestions on the maximum price we will authorize. I hope that a member of Congress will sponsor this proposal so that the next President will be able to exercise this authority if he so chooses.
Due to my entry into politics I will no longer have an editorial voice at The Examiner, but will continue to own the enterprise.
Joseph Walker