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No, we were supplying Prussia, or now Germany, publicly. We were supplying Austria and other Prussian enemies privately, under the table.

If we were funding them in private, it would never have been an issue, since the public wouldn't have no about it, which in and of itself is a bad precendent

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It seems the once proud libertarian has abandoned his party. But yes you are correct about Hawaii and Alaska.

((Im hoping they just have yet to vote, but we are running against a National Hero. So no shame to either the democrats or the libretarians))
 

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Well, Senator, they do now! You play both sides! That is Machiavellian, counter-productive, and an entirely foolish policy! My case on dependency lies wholly on the economic level of the state.

Ladies and Gentlemen of the United States, the New Democratic Party has admitted that, whilst aiding Prussia with military supplies, it also supplied Austria and her allies with goods! Can we trust an administration that will do this? No! Can we trust in the words of an administration that says one thing and does something different? No!

Ladies and Gentlemen, this revelation, straight from the mouth of its candidate:


Do you want him to be your President?

MANDRAKE/JARVIS 1872

I was meaning we give Germany aid in private. Thats what the "Germany's enemies will hate us" comment was about. By suppling germany in privite germanys enemies will not hate us. I never meantion Austria.
 

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((Im hoping they just have yet to vote, but we are running against a National Hero. So no shame to either the democrats or the libretarians))

((Yeah that is true. The election is still young however.))
 

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Then the New Democratic administration must be of the opinion that Europeans are stupid, since it was a major campaign issue four years ago, or you have been living in some fantasy world for the last decade!

For future reference, you may want to make your statements more concise, or they can be misinterpreted.

Why would we supply a nation in secret? Are we afraid? Are we weak? Give us an answer!

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Then the New Democratic administration must be of the opinion that Europeans are stupid, since it was a major campaign issue four years ago, or you have been living in some fantasy world for the last decade!

For future reference, you may want to make your statements more concise, or they can be misinterpreted.

I assumed you would know I was talking about Prussia. And just because it wasn't a secret 4 years ago, doesn't mean it cant be a secret in the future. Germanys enemies will simply think we have retracted our support for them.
 

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But we still supported them! Prussia's enemies won't be any less angry. And now we look like a cowardly nation!

This is why we shouldn't be involved in foreign wars! We shouldn't try to pick the winners and losers. We should be the mediator, the ally of the world!

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Then the New Democratic administration must be of the opinion that Europeans are stupid, since it was a major campaign issue four years ago, or you have been living in some fantasy world for the last decade!

For future reference, you may want to make your statements more concise, or they can be misinterpreted.

Why would we supply a nation in secret? Are we afraid? Are we weak? Give us an answer!

Senator Henry J. Jarvis of California, Champion of the Constitution and Republican Vice-Presidential Candidate

No we are not afraid or weak. But we can support German unification while also staying friendly with Prussia enemies.
 

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By bowing to Austrian pressure, recanting (in public) our support for Prussia makes us look strong? How so?

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*Sigh* I won't have this argument anymore. I have explained my views and have answered every one of your many questions. However you just find another way to complain. If you don't like my views fine, but lots of people do like our views. Many people support our current foreign policy and that is sufficient enough for me.

Improvement! Not Change. Vote ND!
 
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I still doubt the military policies of Mr. Mandrake. What would Mr. Mandrake's policy on Cuba be?
 

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If you want actual answers, and not politicking
If you want peace and prosperity
If you want trade with all nations
If you want security from imperialists
If you want firmness in foreign policy
If you want honesty rather than deception

If you want these, the answer is simple:

MANDRAKE/JARVIS
 

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If you want actual answers, and not politicking
If you want peace and prosperity
If you want trade with all nations
If you want security from imperialists
If you want firmness in foreign policy
If you want honesty rather than deception

If you want these, the answer is simple:

MANDRAKE/JARVIS

I have answered all of your many, many questions. There's only so much of your continued complaining that I can listen to however.
 

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It seems the once proud libertarian has abandoned his party. But yes you are correct about Hawaii and Alaska.

I haven't abandoned my own party. I served under Mandrake after the Army of the Potomac lost General Khur, and have seen first-hand his effective leadership. I was also, prior to my baptism of fire, a member of the National Republican Party. I further believe that Bryan has failed to address the issues of the day in his campaign.

I still doubt the military policies of Mr. Mandrake. What would Mr. Mandrake's policy on Cuba be?
I am curious about this as well. It would seem the issue of Cuba has fallen by the wayside. Are we going to see the continued policies of isolating Spain diplomatically?
 
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Answer my last question then... How is it that our bowing to Austrian pressure, and reneging on our support for Prussia (publicly), make us appear strong?
 

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I still doubt the military policies of Mr. Mandrake. What would Mr. Mandrake's policy on Cuba be?

Ah Cuba, that old thorn in our side. Are you referring to the Confederates still hiding there, or Spanish attrocities and tyrrany?
 

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Answer my last question then? How is it that our bowing to Austrian pressure, and reneging on our support for Prussia (publicly), make us appear strong?

This better be the last question.

1. We are not bowing to Austrian pressure. We simply want to continue trading and a good relationship.
2. I never said it makes us look strong. You, with your isolistic views would hardly care if the world sees us as weak or strong anyway.
3. We can continue to support Getman unification, while also continuing the good relations and trading with other nation. What's so hard to understand about that?
 

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Spanish atrocities and tyranny. I would think we still need to proceed with caution. Unless we are attacked by Spain, we cannot intervene with the military for risk of full scale European war.
 

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Ah Cuba, that old thorn in our side. Are you referring to the Confederates still hiding there, or Spanish attrocities and tyrrany?

The weakness it demonstrates in failing to bring those traitors to justice aside, it has been about 15 years since the issue of liberating the Cuban people was decisively made the President's prerogative. How would you pursue (or not pursue) this responsibility?
 

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Ah Cuba, that old thorn in our side. Are you referring to the Confederates still hiding there, or Spanish attrocities and tyrrany?

Could you tell me more about the Spanish atrocities and tyranny?