The presentation from Strategium Alliance

[Veldmaarschalk]

This was posted in a thread and since it might get lost there, here is the link, it is a translation form a French site.

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=da&sl=fr&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.strategium-alliance.com%2FCrusader-Kings-2.8229.0.html

There probably are some technical problems at the Gamescon, so there is no official presentation on the forum yet.

 

[Kaleidoscope]

Baron management is going to really liven up the game for those of us who like to play as Counts, it'll give us some vassals to get backstabbed by.

 

[A_Dane]

Baron management is going to really liven up the game for those of us who like to play as Counts, it'll give us some vassals to get backstabbed by.

It'd be awesome if you could execute them for treason, or actually play them too :O (although i don't believe in the last part).

 

[Woody Man]

Baron management is going to really liven up the game for those of us who like to play as Counts, it'll give us some vassals to get backstabbed by.

Yeah looks like a great addition, and sounds like the whole thing is going to be great fun, interesting to read that they've removed Badboy as we know it.

 

[Galle]

I am greatly looking forward to ordering the assassination of Lady MacBeth.

 

[DeathAndDecay]

Crusader Kings II is finally scheduled for first quarter 2012 ... "if we're still alive" in the words of humorous developer Johan Andersson.

This made me :rofl:

 

[A_Dane]

This made me :rofl:

that's prove: Johan is god, he can "make" people by joking!

 

[tuore]

As a christian nobleman? So no pagans or muslims?

 

[Galle]

As a christian nobleman? So no pagans or muslims?

That doesn't necessarily mean that pagans and Muslims have been locked off for no reason again. Obviously the core game focuses on Christian noblemen, but that doesn't necessarily imply that there aren't other options. It's not like playable Muslims and pagans isn't the single most requested feature in Crusader Kings 2 wishlists or anything.

 

[Niptium]

This is the most beautiful box art I have ever seen from Paradox. Who's the author ? I just want to congratulate him. It has come a long way from Victoria I and Europa Universalis II !

 

[TempestDK]

they have a personality and personal ambitions they attempt to assuage

Personal ambitions for the characters in the game ... that has soooo much potential for more inter-/intra-court fun and intrigues.

 

[Fernando Torres]

That doesn't necessarily mean that pagans and Muslims have been locked off for no reason again. Obviously the core game focuses on Christian noblemen, but that doesn't necessarily imply that there aren't other options. It's not like playable Muslims and pagans isn't the single most requested feature in Crusader Kings 2 wishlists or anything.

As far as I have understood you can only play Christian countries, just like in CK.

 

[Saulot]

As far as I have understood you can only play Christian countries, just like in CK.

I think it is early enough that features probably aren't locked in.

 

[Fernando Torres]

But the basic design is already decided. I am just giving you my opinion considering what I have been told today.
And I don't think you will be able to play non-Christian monarchies. This is no official announcement obviously.

 

[Saulot]

But the basic design is already decided. I am just giving you my opinion considering what I have been told today.
And I don't think you will be able to play non-Christian monarchies. This is no official announcement obviously.

I actually agree with you on that. My point though is only that there is enough time for them to change that if they choose, or if the demand is strong enough.

 

[Veldmaarschalk]

But the basic design is already decided. I am just giving you my opinion considering what I have been told today.
And I don't think you will be able to play non-Christian monarchies. This is no official announcement obviously.

Also from the presentation it seems that you will no longer be able to play counts, only dukes, earls and kings.

Or are earls to be the name of counts ?

Can you tell us anything about that ?

 

[Saulot]

Also from the presentation it seems that you will no longer be able to play counts, only dukes, earls and kings.

Or are earls to be the name of counts ?

Can you tell us anything about that ?

Earls are counts in England. "Earl" was probably used in English translation since it is the English title, but we actually use Earl to designate English titles, while Count to designate the Continental equivalents.

 

[Fernando Torres]

Also from the presentation it seems that you will no longer be able to play counts, only dukes, earls and kings.

Or are earls to be the name of counts ?

Can you tell us anything about that ?

This is just bad translation. I think you still play as these.
Pssst my collegue and roommate reminded me that Johan used the word "Emperor". Now we don't know if it was just as a trait or a new title (maybe just for Byzantion?)...or a mistake. I don't really recall when he said that to be honest. We'll check our videos if you want.

 

[Veldmaarschalk]

This is just bad translation. I think you still play as these.
Pssst my collegue and roommate reminded me that Johan used the word "Emperor". Now we don't know if it was just as a trait or a new title (maybe just for Byzantion?)...or a mistake. I don't really recall when he said that to be honest. We'll check our videos if you want.

Thanks for that bit of extra information

 

[GaiusC]

http://www.jeux-strategie.com/Crusader-Kings-2.8228.0.html

"Débutant en 1066 (une seule campagne semble prévue)"
Either they misunderstood, or there's just one big campaign planned - which would be a shame, I found that they could've added 1 or 2 other starting points for CK...
Would also imply that the start date is fixed. If so, is the end-date still 1453?

Crusader Kings II permettra de jouer un noble chrétien (duc, comte ou roi)
Same as CK: You play as a Christian Count, Duke or King. Let's hope that they'll really introduce pagans and muslims as playable factions (as well as non-monarchies, though it might be even trickier) in the future developments of the game.

Des barons seront par exemple présents dans les provinces (plus une province est riche, plus nombreux y seront les barons).
Each province will have barons. The wealthier the province, the more numerous the barons.
Makes me wonder if it's basically a revision of the courtiers system, translated with barons here.
I should definitely end my current campaigns and try Vae Victis to see how the system has evolved there.

Spy master has an internal use at long last, and can unmask conspiracies - then the culprit is sent to the dungeon or even executed. That's nice - and is close to what another thread discusses

"Crusader Kings II emploie un système de justification des guerres notamment lorsque l'on revendique un titre ou que l'on désire convertir un territoire à la culture ou la religion différente. Il n'y aura en revanche a priori pas de notion de badboy ou d'infamy dans Crusader Kings II."
So, a casus belli system, based upon claims, or culture or religion conversions as war goals. HTTT/Vicky2 revamped for the CK era.
Though no badboy seems surprising. I wonder how they'll manage the blobbing. I suppose every DOW will cause a loyalty test - or a loyalty drop - for the vassals, with a far bigger drop without a valid casus belli.

"Plus de coopération est également prévue entre les différents croisés."
Nice: cooperation between various crusaders.
Looks tricky to do, but should be a great fun. Possibly like some unofficial alliance between the crusaders?

Anti-Popes that you can create and try to impose after defeating the current Pope sounds great fun, too