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Is emancipation the only thing that will prevent the ACW for good? As long as slavery is legal, it can still trigger even in 1935?
I think so.
 

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I never got a war.
I was making alternating random event choices and decisions made in right time helped a lot too .
Oh and I went full democratic on those associations, underground rails and everything.

But jacobines were a huge pain in the rear.
 

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I did it without any civil war, but I also got cuba as part of the union immediately after finishing off the Mexicans. Mind you I was at war with mexico from game start, and I'm quite sure that helped.
Same here. I got Cuba early on and increased the Slave States with New Mexico as well, so no War of Northern Aggression for me.
The effing Jacobins popped up out of nowhere (really: I had zero revolt risk according to the map) every few months by the late game though, and in their wake I even got Manhattanite nationalists...
Having to keep two armies bouncing around the north while at the same time trying to beat Mexico out of California & Utah was not fun.
 

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Also, I guess it's a necessary part of the game mechanics (otherwise you could abolish slavery right away), but I thought it was silly to see the USA completely dominated by the Democrats, with no chance for the Whigs to win in the lower house. In reality, of course, this was not the case. But that's not the main thing that bothers me, which is that because the Democrats control everything, the USA is stuck with Interventionism even though they were really for Laissez-Faire and the Whigs for Interventionism. I'm definitely going to change that one. And the Southern Democrats being for State Capitalism doesn't make much sense, either. I would say that the Confederate government was decidedly unfree economically (and in every other way, too), but a large part of that was because of the war, not ideology.

The Whigs won the final election in my first playthrough.
 

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I did have some Jacobins revolting, but the revolt was nowhere near that big.

It was like a three states somewhere in 1850 during my third war with Mexico. Two states raised 2 brigades and the other just one. Easy to clean up. Good to see larger revolts are possible.
 

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:rofl: I totally lost this !!!

It's early 1848 and :



The north is taking it's independance !

NIce :D Would be cool to see the north, the south and maybe central america acting in the WWI or WWII. I played the demo too, quite hard and I never played a Vicky before, so til now I'm really overstrained with all the stuff, especially with the trading and working system. But I'm still extremely excited for friday, it's gonna be a long long night and a long long day after that :)
 

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Did anyone beat me to this?

I haven't seen anyone post yet saying that they peacefully abolished slavery. Well, it's possible and it can be done in the demo's time frame. Pretty damn close thing though. In January and Febuary of 1848, it ended up being a race between me being able to pass emancipation and the succession event firing, which I won only by the good graces of the RNG.

Am I the first? Do I get an internet cookie?
 

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:rofl: I totally lost this !!!

It's early 1848 and :

The north is taking it's independance !

And I just had my first event informing me that Confederate nationalists began their own revolts and I'm out of troops... I don't even have enough troops to fight the Yankee revolters AND the Yankee Secessionists ... :eek:o

So in the end having the war between the north and the south might be easier than trying to avoid it :p

Really Vicky II is definitely a great political simulation. There are things to add that's for sure but it clearly seems this game will be a "hit", far more than Vicky I so I think we can hope for more things in the future.

Just an example (but that's something a silple patch can't change I think as it would need new political tools) : just before the entire State of New York fell to the Commune of New York City, the political affiliations were with 30% of the voters voting for "Southern Democrats" !!! In NY State !!! :p

Wow, they've allowed for New Yotk as a country? What's it's flag?
 

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Here:

In my game, I just outlawed slavery. No ACW yet, and I think I avoided it completely.:D

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NIce :D Would be cool to see the north, the south and maybe central america acting in the WWI or WWII. I played the demo too, quite hard and I never played a Vicky before, so til now I'm really overstrained with all the stuff, especially with the trading and working system. But I'm still extremely excited for friday, it's gonna be a long long night and a long long day after that :)

Well the US can be realy divided !!! So it can totally turn this way (especially if you decide to side with the South)

As for Friday night, I have to fill up my beer reserves :rofl:

Shoot. Who beat me to it? The OP doesn't mention abolition.

Nope I did not do it... My mistake was to always forbid anti slavery activism, which rose consciousness a lot...

In Vicky I, high counsciousness was not a problem as long as militancy was low. it seems it is much more complicated now, and I won't do that anymore :)
 

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Manhattan Commune is the name of the revolter state, actually.
 

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It sounds historical so you're right ;) even if I don't remember it :)
It's fictional. It's from 'The Difference Engine', an excellent steampunk alt-history novel by Bruce Sterling and William Gibson, mentioned in passing in one sentence or something.

I guess someone at Paradox loves the book and used the name to represent a possible breakaway for revolters there, inspired by the New York Draft Riots of 1863 and other riots of the era.
 

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