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Will there be events for Britain, Sweden and Denmark simulating further EMU referendums, that move these countries closer in alignment to the CTF if a 'yes' is returned?
Perhaps there should be 'join the EU?' events for some Eastern European countries that do something similar?
Perhaps there should be 'join the EU?' events for some Eastern European countries that do something similar?
Yeah, absolutely. I doubt they will be present for the alpha, but we'll need the euro votes for the beta.
World War One, France was invaded.
World War Two, France ws invaded.
World War Three-Why not have France invaded for old times sake? Perhaps the U.S gets pissed off at them? Or they just disappear?
World War Two, France ws invaded.
World War Three-Why not have France invaded for old times sake? Perhaps the U.S gets pissed off at them? Or they just disappear?
I think we all agree that a nuclear war would be the cause of unbridled devastation across the planet - but how damaging would one be with relation to the game and how effectively a country could function?
The engine can't represent a nuclear war, so we won't have one. As I said in the comments thread, we may give one to North Korea through an event.
Hmmmmm...
How about making the second great depression really devastating for USA and EU? Loss of IC, DI, war entry and Mp and rise of dissent while China would benefit from it(USA and EU having a small cold war they would of course to turn to other bussiness partners, I.E China and Russia) and Russia would either benefit from it or get the civil war. This could potentialy lead to an "Sino-Russian threat". I really would like to see US getting nerfed a bit... They will no doubt have the lead in the start. And economic crisis might let China/Russia to reach their level.
I honestly see only few reasons for Russia invading Finland(afterall, they are our largest trading partner and they would get in a diplomaticaly difficult postion) except gaining sole control of the Finnish Gulf so they could built all the oil harbors they want and getting more wood and some trivial amount of other resources. And for the other countries... Why to fight for some pieces of land and get yourself to troubles? Kazakstan and Azerbaidan are exceptions. They have oil, the life blood of modern world.
I see no reasons why China would ally with NK. I can, however, see reasons why they could try to puppet them. Afterall, they are annoying bastards sitting next to them.
If you want my opinions...
I must say that a Sino-Russian conflict would be better and more realistic than Sino-American conflict. Either a The Dragon and the Bear type conflict or war over Kazakhstan.
Wars in Africa, Middle Eas, Balkanst and South America. Definedly.
If US ever gets to war with China, I doubt that the chinese will just sit in their continent.
How about making the second great depression really devastating for USA and EU? Loss of IC, DI, war entry and Mp and rise of dissent while China would benefit from it(USA and EU having a small cold war they would of course to turn to other bussiness partners, I.E China and Russia) and Russia would either benefit from it or get the civil war. This could potentialy lead to an "Sino-Russian threat". I really would like to see US getting nerfed a bit... They will no doubt have the lead in the start. And economic crisis might let China/Russia to reach their level.
I honestly see only few reasons for Russia invading Finland(afterall, they are our largest trading partner and they would get in a diplomaticaly difficult postion) except gaining sole control of the Finnish Gulf so they could built all the oil harbors they want and getting more wood and some trivial amount of other resources. And for the other countries... Why to fight for some pieces of land and get yourself to troubles? Kazakstan and Azerbaidan are exceptions. They have oil, the life blood of modern world.
I see no reasons why China would ally with NK. I can, however, see reasons why they could try to puppet them. Afterall, they are annoying bastards sitting next to them.
If you want my opinions...
I must say that a Sino-Russian conflict would be better and more realistic than Sino-American conflict. Either a The Dragon and the Bear type conflict or war over Kazakhstan.
Wars in Africa, Middle Eas, Balkanst and South America. Definedly.
If US ever gets to war with China, I doubt that the chinese will just sit in their continent.
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Nerfix said:
Yeah, we'll have to balance all this.
Nerfix said:
I kind of view Russia as viewing this period as the time of change and trying to get the most out of it as they can, while they can. Obviously they will "get in trouble," we're trying to provoke a war here
From what I understand, many Russians consider Ukraine as part of Russia, and if the EU attacks Russia for attacking Ukraine, Finland would be part of that. Nerfix said:
Parters of opportunity perhaps? China wants to see the US tied down everywhere they can. China could stage a coup perhaps, but I'm not going to worry about this right now. It's necessary for gameplay.
Nerfix said:
I'm sorry, we are NOT doing any major plot changes at this point. Plot changes will have to accept this basic framework in order to get implemented. Surely you can understand why we can't keep changing it, we'll never get anything done
Nerfix said:
Yup.
Nerfix said:
China will be fighting India and whatnot. They simply do not have the blue water navy necessary to control the seas and go beyond Asia with anything more than small task forces.
Russias going to be the big wild card in the game personally I agree that a China vs Russia war is more likely and have said as such but I also realize that while a competent human player could win as China vs most others if the AI is playing China then we’ll have to even things up a bit. That’s where Russia comes in. From what I remember (and this might have changed) there will be several different coups and events that could swing Russia to any side in the war. Some games Russia will be an ally others Russia will be invading Europe and some there will be a brutal civil war in Russia itself which is good for making each game different.
I didn't read all 22 pages but I thought I should point out that China lacks significant numbers of amphibious troops. Of course they could just use regular infantry but there would be heavier losses most likely. Here’s a few links that you might find interesting:
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/ops/taiwan-d-day.htm
http://www.emeraldesigns.com/matchup/military.shtml
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/index.html
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/ops/taiwan-d-day.htm
http://www.emeraldesigns.com/matchup/military.shtml
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/index.html
Thanks, and we realize that. The information is quite useful though. We plan to have China build up its ampibious capability in the pre-war years enough to invade Taiwan, but not much else.
As for Russia, that will indeed swing around depending on what country the player is and what difficulty they choose, among many other ones eventually.
As for Russia, that will indeed swing around depending on what country the player is and what difficulty they choose, among many other ones eventually.
In reality I don't think Russia would make any agressive moves. Or go through another revolution. Also is anything to do with Chechnia gonna be included for them? I know that currently theres some kind of conflict in that area of the Globe. I'm not sure on the particulars because Canadian news papers only report aobut how the Canadian govenrment is stealing our money. Brings me to another point: Canada should have an event were Quebec separtists declare independence. That would be fun.. hhaha.
FearTheMullet said:
While I agree about this, I also don't think we will see a WW3 soon. So we must use improbable things so that there is a game to play.
Chechnya will be included as a revolter and there will probably be some events added eventually (probably not for alpha).
I'd love to include lots of revolters and whatnot, but we're out of tags. Adding a potenital Quebec country would mean taking out Morocco or something as a present country.
FearTheMullet said:
I would have thought that the chance of Quebec throwing off the shackles of Canadian imperialism in an orgy of blood and terror would be pretty remote
When exactly will the scenario start? I have read many possible dates, ranging from 2002 over March 2003 to 2004.
I´m going to write some German events, and thus need to know where to start. Personally, I´d like it to be January 2003, so the steps leading to Iraq war could be simulated much better. Or even end of 2002?
I´m going to write some German events, and thus need to know where to start. Personally, I´d like it to be January 2003, so the steps leading to Iraq war could be simulated much better. Or even end of 2002?