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Unethical Llama

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There are 3 major issues:

1) Three modes splitting the playerbase. Two of them are identical.

Ranked and quick play cannot both exist at the same time. Either the playerbase will be split in half, one of the modes will be dead, or both of the modes will be dead. Any of these outcomes is bad. Remove ranked, give quick play the leaderboards.

2) Can't queue up as either faction and no mirror matches so what playerbase we do have is effectively split in half.

Simplest solution: Mirror matches need to be re-enabled. History buffs will complain, but not only does this make a much larger pool for matchmaking, it makes for a lot more variety in game. Things like 716 vs Luftlande are a ton of fun, and if we end up with dead ranked again, that will be something very few people will ever experience.

If that is not an option, at least let people pick a battlegroup from either faction and queue up for both simultaneously.

3) Can't queue up for multiple game sizes. This kills 2v2 - 4v4.

Even if the first two issues were solved, you could still have 12 people trying to find 3v3 or 4v4 matches using the matchmaker and it fail to create a match because of how they are split, 5 in 3v3, 7 in 4v4. That's a worst case scenario, but with every issue combined right now you could easily have 30 people trying to find 2v2-4v4 and none of them finding matches.

Meanwhile even when using an archaic and terrible system like the server lobby you can get a 3v3 going even if only 6 people are online looking for 3v3+.

TL;DR:

Ranked removed, only quickplay. Option to queue up as both an Axis and Allied division simultaneously. Option to queue up for any map sizes you want simultaneously.

This needs to happen. You can't get away with splitting the playerbase this much in bigger games, let alone a niche strategy game.

Edit: I'm getting a lot of "Respectfully Disagree" but all the comments are in support. Can I hear some possible reasons for disagreeing with this? I was under the impression that what I was suggesting wasn't really an option, it's what the game needs to do to not have player pool issues.
 
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I would favor being able to pick both an allied and axis division personally. Then you can match with anyone without requiring mirrors.
 

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I would favor being able to pick both an allied and axis division personally. Then you can match with anyone without requiring mirrors.

Not sure how long it would take Eugen to set up such a system though, and we know that mirror matches work. Fix for a major problem at the flip of the switch and it's the one that gives us the most matchup variety.

Regardless, either is a massive improvement over what we currently have.
 

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Something tells me that if you remove one of the two clones and end up naming the remnant one "ranked", most of the people will consider custom games as the regular non-competitive games and we will fall back to what we had in Wargame.

I would favor being able to pick both an allied and axis division personally. Then you can match with anyone without requiring mirrors.
I agree.
 

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Something tells me that if you remove one of the two clones and end up naming the remnant one "ranked", most of the people will consider custom games as the regular non-competitive games and we will fall back to what we had in Wargame.

Correct. I sound like a broken record, but 90% of players are afraid of the word "Ranked."
 

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Ranked for many is not about playing, its all about winning by all means including exploits, glitching, cheese tactics or meta compositions mastery.
I am myself not interested in ranked as i just want to play the non 100% competitive divisions i do like and have fun in team games.

Mirror match enabled did one thing: no one played the quick play including me. Best way to kill it fast.
I will never play mirror stuff. Leave it for starcraft.

Can't queue several modes simultaneously (3v3 to 4v4, etc). Its the main issue why i am not playing quick play.
Being able to search several modes is a great idea.

Choosing 2 side to search simultaneously is a very great idea.

I did not even know you can queue for map size.
 

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What is sure is you can't split your community when you are a niche game.
There is no way. I hope Eugen do something.

However i can't be in line with the OP since his "simple solution" is to enable mirror again and flush even more the MM from players (including myself).
 

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This does need to be fixed. Condense everything to quick match (with custom for invite only), let you que as a faction or either and select a deck ONCE the game has been found and the map chosen.
 

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This does need to be fixed. Condense everything to quick match (with custom for invite only), let you que as a faction or either and select a deck ONCE the game has been found and the map chosen.
I think it would be even better to select the deck upon starting the search. So no selection of deck after mode and map have been determined. Less cheese that way!
 

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Being able to queue for multiple modes and both sides at the same time would help a lot I think.

Personally I'd like mirror match to be an option you can check or not - sometimes I like the idea, but other times I want axis vs allies. With the option at least you can get everyone using the same matching system.
 

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They should delete quickplay in its current state.

When it is ready to roll with all the options working, then you release it. Right now it's just so meh that people are gonna get turned off and never come back to it. Shit it may be too late already.
 

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They should delete quickplay in its current state.

When it is ready to roll with all the options working, then you release it. Right now it's just so meh that people are gonna get turned off and never come back to it. Shit it may be too late already.
They should just un-release the game /s
 

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LOLno, but MM is pretty much pointless right now if we're going off what is supposedly intended (going off the stream).

All it really needs is the ability to check/uncheck options (2v2, conquest, etc.) so you can have a wider search, and let you choose both an allied and an axis deck if you choose.
 

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All it really needs is the ability to check/uncheck options (2v2, conquest, etc.) so you can have a wider search, and let you choose both an allied and an axis deck if you choose.

Well yeah............ so roll that shit out or pull it and put it back in when you can roll it out.

Right now it's just a shitty feature that no one uses. It is very difficult to change consumer's minds after they've had a negative experience with a product.