The Pick of Destiny

[BurningEGO]

Poor, poor FAL

+60 WS wise against France... Nice show there FAL - even 5v2 you couldnt force me to peace over so many years...

I do, now, understand, how Tonio feels. *curses KJ and ALL nap breakers*

 

[Sid Meier]

Ottoman Might shakes the world.

 

[unmerged(49182)]

Very nice session. +99 WS on Austria, so just a few more stabhits and hell be forcepeaced. And by the way, if Im forced to forcepeace you, Ill take everything I can.

 

[unmerged(18425)]

Poor, poor FAL

+60 WS wise against France... Nice show there FAL - even 5v2 you couldnt force me to peace over so many years...

I do, now, understand, how Tonio feels. *curses KJ and ALL nap breakers*

Didn't I tell you to go to math class? It wasn't 5v2.

Anyway, this double stab hit stuff is so lame, especially after you delibarately did it again after I informed you that it CTDed me, that I refuse to continue playing.

 

[BurningEGO]

Didn't I tell you to go to math class? It wasn't 5v2.

Anyway, this double stab hit stuff is so lame, especially after you delibarately did it again after I informed you that it CTDed me, that I refuse to continue playing.

It was 5v2 for most of the session. I convinced Sid that beli would have done something (and he would, certainly, specially against Venice that humiliated him countless times already). Sid joined only on the last 3 years or so.

You can refuse playing, but you did the same to me, a couple of times. Acidently or not. And I always keep this little phrase "One eye for an eye" on my mind when people are so low and dishonorable.

 

[unmerged(18425)]

You can refuse playing, but you did the same to me, a couple of times.

I never send a stab hit offer before the original one got rejected. I didn't have any lag anyway so couldn't do it. I know, since I couldn't send more than one gift.

And since I only send three or four stab hits in total (this can probably be checked per the host save), it's obvious that you are lying.

 

[BurningEGO]

I never send a stab hit offer before the original one got rejected. I didn't have any lag anyway so couldn't do it. I know, since I couldn't send more than one gift.

And since I only send three or four stab hits in total (this can probably be checked per the host save), it's obvious that you are lying.

Alliance-wise peace proposals are only seen on my save, or in yours. And of course i am lying FAL. On SOE i was lying as well. I am a filthy liar. You are the lord of the truth FAL. I am sorry i did not take screenshots, but i was so damned busy in the war i did not even care about it.

Anyway - i will peace the interested nations at war - apart from France. FAL deserves to be taught a lesson or 2 for his behaviour.

 

[King John]

Poor, poor FAL

+60 WS wise against France... Nice show there FAL - even 5v2 you couldnt force me to peace over so many years...

I do, now, understand, how Tonio feels. *curses KJ and ALL nap breakers*

NAP breakers? When did I ever sign a NAP with you?

And stop complaining about a "gang", while at the same time bragging about how badly you're beating Fal. I've been in your situation dozens of times, and has anyone seen me complain half as much as you? Take it like a man, EGO. Stop acting like a child, if you don't spend so much time typing while we play, you might actually beat us . You might still beat us. But all this bitching gets really, really old.


And we have some serious discussing to do about your 2nd double-stabhit. The first was let go, but the 2nd is a very serious offense.

 

[BurningEGO]

NAP breakers? When did I ever sign a NAP with you?

And stop complaining about a "gang", while at the same time bragging about how badly you're beating Fal. I've been in your situation dozens of times, and has anyone seen me complain half as much as you? Take it like a man, EGO. Stop acting like a child, if you don't spend so much time typing while we play, you might actually beat us . You might still beat us. But all this bitching gets really, really old.


And we have some serious discussing to do about your 2nd double-stabhit. The first was let go, but the 2nd is a very serious offense.

Not complaining at all. If there is someone complaining or "bragging" that someone is FAL. "oh noes i cannot handle rebels"

 

[unmerged(18425)]

Alliance-wise peace proposals are only seen on my save, or in yours. And of course i am lying FAL. On SOE i was lying as well. I am a filthy liar. You are the lord of the truth FAL. I am sorry i did not take screenshots, but i was so damned busy in the war i did not even care about it.

We should be able to check the Spanish stab levels with the saves, with which we can check how many stab hits you received.

 

[BurningEGO]

We should be able to check the Spanish stab levels with the saves, with which we can check how many stab hits you received.

My stab went from +3 to -3. That i am sure of. I started investing on stability some time ago since it took only 2 months or 3. But when i was at -3 i had all of mexico-incas-north africa plus Indonesia in flames.

 

[King John]

Not complaining at all. If there is someone complaining or "bragging" that someone is FAL. "oh noes i cannot handle rebels"

Yes, you have. LOL, you just complained in your last post. If you're going to deny something, at least do it on something that somebody would have a smidgen of a chance of believing you . You just undermined your image.

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We told you on the rehost not to double-stabhit Fal anymore. You did it anyway, even deliberately, as Fal's icq log indicates, causing Fal to not only recieve one extra stabhit, but causing him to CTD and lose extra troops from an inability to retreat.

 

[BurningEGO]

I do, now, understand, how Tonio feels. *curses KJ and ALL nap breakers*

You take this as complaining? Now, let us reformulate if this is complaining or not:

1º FAL signed a nap with me
2º You promised help vs France in case of a war (lol)

FAL broke a NAP, and you ganged me, even if you knew i was going to give you mainland italy pretty soon.

To me, i, just spoke the truth. I do curse you for backstabbing me this way (heh), and i do curse all nap breakers like FAL. There has not been a single NAP that hasnt been broken on this game. Only Mulliman actually honours it. And myself plus drake.

Obviously, when i said *curses kj and fal* - was joking. No harm done to me. Only to Spain.

 

[unmerged(49182)]

I honour my NAPs, and I resent being called a NAP breaker.

And do the stats.

 

[King John]

You take this as complaining? Now, let us reformulate if this is complaining or not:

1º FAL signed a nap with me
2º You promised help vs France in case of a war (lol)

FAL broke a NAP, and you ganged me, even if you knew i was going to give you mainland italy pretty soon.

To me, i, just spoke the truth. I do curse you for backstabbing me this way (heh), and i do curse all nap breakers like FAL. There has not been a single NAP that hasnt been broken on this game. Only Mulliman actually honours it. And myself plus drake.

Victimizing yourself does count as complaining in my book. "Oh no, my big powerful Spain is finally getting attacked. Why can't they just be honorable and fight 1v1 wars with me like Tonio always likes, or wait for me to attack them? And why can't they all just be forthright with their diplomacy with me, so I can plan accordingly and defeat them? It's just so unfair! Why did Venice have to opt out of attacking England with me? THAT would've been a great gang, this one is just gay. Venice should be helping me with France now, if he were helping me with France, this war would've been over by now. These guys have no honor".

 

[BurningEGO]

We told you on the rehost not to double-stabhit Fal anymore. You did it anyway, even deliberately, as Fal's icq log indicates, causing Fal to not only recieve one extra stabhit, but causing him to CTD and lose extra troops from an inability to retreat.

I did. And i will continue doing it. You may not believe me, but FAL did it. I am very vengeful and these things get very, very, personal, when they happen to me.

In all my games - i was never lame enough to do it. You can ask everyone that played with me and ate stab hits. Ask them if they ate lag stab hits.

Since FAL did it, i do take it as right to do it - plus, a few more times to make him pay. And since it is not against the rules, i may do it - as many times as i wish to.

 

[BurningEGO]

Victimizing yourself does count as complaining in my book. "Oh no, my big powerful Spain is finally getting attacked. Why can't they just be honorable and fight 1v1 wars with me like Tonio always likes, or wait for me to attack them? And why can't they all just be forthright with their diplomacy with me, so I can plan accordingly and defeat them? It's just so unfair! Why did Venice have to opt out of attacking England with me? THAT would've been a great gang, this one is just gay. Venice should be helping me with France now, if he were helping me with France, this war would've been over by now. These guys have no honor".

Why tell someone that you are helping them - just to put your little knife in their back? And well, i remind you - it was YOU that told me to dow England. I asked for your help - i did. But it was you that told me to do it. And since my little spy network told me this England was pretty much of an ally to France, i had to - if i was to have any chance of beating France afterwards.

 

[BurningEGO]

I obviously do not like such dishonourable moves, nor do i support them from my perspective of a player (this little gang of yours).

But i can live with it. I am not complaining about the gang. I actually had much fun trouncing FAL's armies around even when he had twice as many men. I do like a gang once in a while - it does make things funny! Yes, i know, this may differ from my opinion from some months ago - but hell, gangs are the "bread of everyday" on eu2 - at least to my nation. So i really have to enjoy it.

Again - not complaining.

 

[unmerged(58575)]

what is this stab thingy?

cause many games have a rule against lag exploiting of ALL kinds... (I don't know what this is though but it sounds like lag)

or is he sending more than one diplomat at the same day that's an exploit also...

 

[King John]

EGO, double stabhitting is not just a bad exploit. Granted, if it were only that, it might be something we could ignore, even after I said not to do it on the rehost- which everyone agreed with. However, even so, you should've let it go, as you had been able to "get back at Fal" already(if he indeed did that to you- you could've just gotten a stabhit event, I don't think there's a way of proving it either way. This reminds me a lot of what happened in SOE).

But you did it knowing that there was a good chance it would cause Fal to CTD, and then lied about doing it at all.