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thames said:
...

Whatever that is (was) – thanks!

...

It's an old strategy game where you played the Romans (like a very early built of RTW) and one way of making (easy) money was to hold chariot races...

You can still find at
Home of the Underdogs .

It's from 1990 :eek: , God, I'm getting old...
 

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I've played it, it's a good game!:D But I never got the hold of those chariot races...

Fun twist to the installment this time, thames.;) I was wondering on why that mine story was in for.:p
 

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Great update! :D I wouldn't worry about the mine though , actually I wouldn't worry about money at all. Going into debt isn't too serious in CK. Also, how's your effiecency? Still 100% or is Georgios having trouble keeping track of his newly conquered provinces?
 

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Inventive way to describe the mine collapse. I like it. :)
“It’s symptom of a much bigger problem,” the leader hissed. “And don’t lean so hard against that beam. If you break it, the mine will collapse!”

“Was that a swing at my weight?” the Overseer asked angrily.
Simply great.

And I'll come out and join the group of Centurion Players Anonymous: "Hi, my name is Stuyvesant and in my younger years, I also played Centurion: defender of Rome." :p
 

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Obviously pregnant.;)
 

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I get it now, I didn't look at the date of that installment, serves me right. Great work again, at the start, I was woundering were you would go with the mine story and it worked out great.
 

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Murmurandus said:
It's an old strategy game where you played the Romans (like a very early built of RTW) and one way of making (easy) money was to hold chariot races...

You can still find at
Home of the Underdogs .

It's from 1990 God, I'm getting old...
Ah, I see – thanks for clearing that up. It’s from my ‘computer-less’ period then (between the C64 of childhood and my first real home PC in 97)
Nikolai said:

Fun twist to the installment this time, thames. I was wondering on why that mine story was in for.
Well, waiting for a war to happen can be boring, so… :D
Thanks
Semi-Lobster said:
Great update! I wouldn't worry about the mine though , actually I wouldn't worry about money at all. Going into debt isn't too serious in CK. Also, how's your effiecency? Still 100% or is Georgios having trouble keeping track of his newly conquered provinces?
Thanks
Oh, I wouldn’t be that nonchalant about money – it can have repercussions (I’ve had to close schools and whatnot in other games… )
As for efficiency – it’s 100% of course. Georgios is still on top of things… :p
Stuyvesant said:
Inventive way to describe the mine collapse. I like it. :)

Simply great
Thanks :D
Meresin said:
Thera's pregnant? or just in "that phase of the month"?

btw: nice update
She’s pregnant all right! The message box actually popped up last ‘quarter., but I didn’t report it then because it usually takes a while to manifest itself… :D
Nikolai said:
Obviously pregnant.
Correct! :)
Zeno of Cyprus said:
I get it now, I didn't look at the date of that installment, serves me right. Great work again, at the start, I was woundering were you would go with the mine story and it worked out great.
Thanks :D
Stuyvesant said:
Have to agree with Nikolai here. With Thera rubbing her belly and looking 'radiant', it simply has to be a pregnancy.
Correct! :D


Next chapter
…later today!
 

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Chapter 29: Council of War

Summer AD 1072,
Great Palace, Constantinople, Roman Empire

Caesar George entered the council room atop a small tower above his quarters. It was supposed to be safe from spies – unless one of his advisors were one of course – always a possibility that. The advisors all stood and bowed to him, but he was a bit impatient and waved to stop them. “Be seated,” he ordered. “My wife is not coming as she is feeling a bit… peevish this morning. You will sit in for her, vice-chancellor. Have you been briefed?”

“Yes, Caesar,” Choniatissa Mechos answered. “We went through the papers yesterday.”

“Excellent,” Caesar George said. He went over to a small side-table and poured wine and water in equal measures into a goblet, before he sat down at the top of the conference table. “Let’s begin. This will a be a war council more than anything – we have to finish the Pecheneg War soon.” He turned to strategos Marapas. “Why don’t you recapitulate the war so far for us.”

“My pleasure, Caesar,” strategos Marapas said and stood up. He walked over to a small table behind him and picked up a map, which he spread out on the conference table. “So far the Pechenegs have lost three provinces – Birlad and Peresechen to us and Turnu to Prince Andronikos Dukas of Dorostotum…”

“Ah, yes – cousin Andy,” Caesar George laughed. “And boy was our illustrious Emperor mad when he found that out. He threw a tantrum on a scale I’ve never seen before!”

“Found out what?” strategos Marapas asked a bit too gruffly. He didn’t like not having all the facts – it made him look stupid in front of his employer.

“That cousin Andy…” He looked at the questioning faces around the table. “Sorry…he’s not my cousin of course, but Prince Michael’s. Michael always called him that and it sort of stuck. Anyway, he’s famous for appropriating things that doesn’t strictly speaking belong to him…so much so he got a nickname – ‘the grabber’.”


Dukas_Andronikos_TurnuStealer1072.jpg

Cousin Andy – ‘the grabber’


“This goes far beyond that, though!” Strategos Marapas said.

“Yes,” Caesar George agreed. “I’m certain that his uncle, Constantine X, must have ordered it or at least approved of it – which is why the Dukases have been banned from the palace for the time being.”

“Including Prince Michael?” kastrisios Chalkites asked.

“Unfortunately, yes,” Caesar George said sadly. “I’ve sent him a letter explaining the circumstances.” He sipped his wine looking up a the ceiling lost in thought. “Continue, Athanasios,” he said after a short pause.

“Eh…err…right,” strategos Marapas began. “Okay, so the Pechenegs have lost three provinces, but they are about to get one back. Apparently the count of Constantia joined in on the war at some point as well, and all the tribes are there, besieging the place.”


MapPechenegWar_1072.jpg

Pecheneg War – Summer 1072 AD


“All of them!?” Caesar George asked sharply.

“Yes,” strategos Marapas answered. “Including the remnants of the Peresechen regiment…”

“WHAT!?” Caesar George spluttered. “They still exist?”

“Oh, yes,” strategos Marapas said. “Of course they can’t recruit anymore, but they will fight until the Pecheneg nation is all gone.”

“Soon then,” Caesar George muttered. “How many are there? Totally!”

“Totally? Well, my agents tell me there are about 1700 of them in the field…”

“That’s all?” Caesar George said and laughed. “This is going to be easier than I thought.”

“Perhaps. The regiments from the unoccupied provinces are still recruiting of course, so I suggest we start this war again before they capture the county of Constantia, as they will most likely come straight for us without picking up new recruits first. We should be able to win that encounter.”

Should!?” Caesar George asked sharply. “Not sure I like the sound of that.”

“War isn’t a calculus problem to be worked out beforehand – sometimes you just have to chance it.”

“I know,” Caesar George retorted, “but this is just like putting all the eggs into one basket. If they all come and we lose, nothing will stop them from taking it all back…or worse – sack Peloponnesos as well.”

“So?” strategos Marapas asked sounding almost sarcastic. “Nothing changed really compared to the last war.”

“True,” Caesar George conceded, “but I got more to lose this time.”

Strategos Marapas shrugged. “Trust me, Caesar, will still win. Besides we still got that ace – the imperial army. They are bound to come and help us.”

“Are they?” Caesar George asked coldly. “I’m not so sure anymore. If Emperor Michael sees more profit in letting us be crushed, he will take it – no matter the loss of prestige for his reign.”

“Perhaps,” strategos Marapas shrugged, “but I don’t think so. Emperor Michael controls the imperial army less than he thinks…”

Caesar George lifted both eyebrows in question. “Really? How interesting.” He laughed out loud. He picked up the goblet again and emptied it. “Right then, we should move soon.” He turned towards his vice-chancellor. “Warn my vassals that we move soon. Have them ready their regiments.”

“Yes, Caesar,” vice-chancellor Mechos said.

“Kastrisios Chalkites…when the building of our training grounds in Achaia finishes, start to rebuild the mine there. I need that revenue.”

“Yes, Caesar,” steward Chalkites said.

“When?” strategos Marapas asked.

“Early September I think,” Caesar George replied standing up. “As soon as my wife give birth to my son. I promised to stick around until then.”

“We should move now!” strategos Marapas said brusquely. Caesar George lifted one eyebrow in surprise. “S-sorry,” strategos Marapas stammered a bit embarrassed. “It’s just…the waiting is killing me.”

“I thought all you military men had nerves of steel,” vice-chancellor Mechos said acidly.

“Oh, I wish,” Caesar George said laughingly. “It’s never easy – especially the waiting.” He nodded to strategos Marapas. “You were saying…?”

“It’s just…the siege of Constantia might be over before we can assemble in Birlad.”

“Can’t be helped,” Caesar George said. “I promised my wife to see the birth of my son and I will. I always keep my promises.”

“Your will, Caesar,” strategos Marapas said with a straight face and bowed.
 

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I’ve prepared a family-tree (simplified) for the Dukases in case you’re interested in seeing the family connections.

I post it here in a separate post as it is too wide and would ruin the reading of the normal update.

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Hmmm... perhaps it would be more profitable to let the Pechenegs take the province then come back and claim it for yourself! :D

Then again from what I can tell their income is -1.... so maybe you should save them

If I remember the bottom four provinces make up the title of Duke/Prince of Wallachia but I could be wrong

Great update Thames I can't wait for your next update
 

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Be quick, take that last Pecheneg province and see those Pechies disappear! Or wait, and see them slowly undo all your good work...

Of course, since you have most likely played ahead already, all of my advice is pretty pointless. :rolleyes: Still, it gives me the illusion of being helpful. :D

I like the way you keep shortening the Greek names into English names: George, Mike, Andy. I would never have thought of anyone with the name Andronikos as an 'Andy'. How long before Thera becomes Teri? :p

Anyway, thanks for updating!
 

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A bit funny that the strategos is talking about how war is not a calculus problem, when calculus won't be discovered for another few centuries (as far as I'm aware)... ;)_
 

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Mmm, I wonder which surprises the war will bring us...
 

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Feedback
Semi-Lobster said:
Hmmm... perhaps it would be more profitable to let the Pechenegs take the province then come back and claim it for yourself!

Then again from what I can tell their income is -1.... so maybe you should save them

If I remember the bottom four provinces make up the title of Duke/Prince of Wallachia but I could be wrong

Great update Thames I can't wait for your next update
I won’t have time to save them…
I won’t look into Prince/Duke titles until “I’m” Emperor.
Thanks :)
Stuyvesant said:
Be quick, take that last Pecheneg province and see those Pechies disappear! Or wait, and see them slowly undo all your good work...

Of course, since you have most likely played ahead already, all of my advice is pretty pointless. Still, it gives me the illusion of being helpful.

I like the way you keep shortening the Greek names into English names: George, Mike, Andy. I would never have thought of anyone with the name Andronikos as an 'Andy'. How long before Thera becomes Teri?

Anyway, thanks for updating!
No, I haven’t. Sometimes I’m on par with a post – sometimes I’m 3 months ahead, but no more than that. But the Pechenegs will disappear – soon ;)
Teri!? NEVER!
Hyzhenhok said:
A bit funny that the strategos is talking about how war is not a calculus problem, when calculus won't be discovered for another few centuries (as far as I'm aware)...
Okay, too much a modern word perhaps – I better use ‘mathematics’ next time…
Thanks for reading.
Murmurandus said:
Mmm, I wonder which surprises the war will bring us...
Don’t we all!?



Next chapter
– later today!
 

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Chapter 30: A lucky boy

Autumn AD 1072,
Great Palace, Constantinople, Roman Empire

Kaisarissa Theodora went into labour early on September 5. Caesar George was immediately banished from the bedroom, which made him think about another banishment. He quickly managed to get the emperor to rescind the banishment of some of the Dukases and right away invited Prince Michael over. “Ah, it’s g-good t-to be b-back,” Prince Michael said, “b-but if I m-m-may ask…wh-what d-did it c-cost you?”

“Me? Nothing,” Caesar George laughed, “your family – plenty!”

“Oh?”

“Yes, I’m afraid your cousin is about to be banished for life to his recent acquisition.”

“To T-turnu!?” Prince Michael gasped.

“Yes.”

“Oh – My – God!” Prince Michael guffawed. “Th-that’s a d-dread-f-ful p-penalty f-for a s-s-syba-r-rite l-like my c-cousin.”

“I know,” Caesar George agreed, laughing. “I don’t think I know anyone so out of place among dirty peasants clothed in wool and animal skins, living in dirty, little huts and tending sheep and goats than your cousin.”

“Exactly!” They shared a heartfelt laugh.

“Wine?”

“P-please.” Prince Michael took the offered goblet and studied the wine like only connoisseur
can. “Excellent vintage,” he pronounced a bit later.

“Thank you,” Caesar George said and pointed at some relaxing chairs. “Let’s relax. The birth is not over yet.”

“Ah, yes,” Prince Michael said. “Is that…”

“Yes,” Caesar George hurriedly interrupted. “I want you to be my son’s godfather.”

Prince Michael lifted both eyebrows in question. “S-s-shouldn’t we wait f-for…”

“No,” Caesar George said. “I’m sure it’s a boy and I want to call him Michael. Do you accept?”

“If it’s a b-boy – yes.”

“Excelle…”

“NO,” Emperor Michael bellowed as he pushed the doors open with a loud crash and entered the study of Caesar George. “I do not agree. I did not lift the banishment for your friend just to have him steal my godfatherhood under my very nose. As emperor, I must be godfather to your firstborn son!”

Caesar George stood up slowly. “I’m sorry, I didn’t think you would be…”

“No, you did not think at all,” the emperor interrupted angrily. “I demand to be your son’s godfather.”

“I’m sorry, my emperor, I cannot. I have already promised it to Prince Michael and I never break my word.”

“I DEMAND YOU DO!” Emperor Michael roared, face purple with anger.

“Will you please keep it down,” kastrisios Chalkites said from the open doorway. “Your wife is resting. And what are you arguing about?”

“Whose to be godfather,” Caesar George said somewhat sheepishly. “I promised it first to Prince Michael…”

“Only if it’s a b-boy,” Prince Michael added.

“…and I forgot first ask Emperor Michael if he wants to and apparently he does… Why are you here? Has it…”

“Yes,” kastrisios Chalkites said calmly. “You have a son.”


NewChild_Michael1072.jpg


Caesar George eyes widened in surprise. “Thank God!”

“C-congratulation, C-caesar,” Prince Michael said.

“Yes, congratulation, George,” Emperor Michael said sounding sincere.

“Thank you,” Caesar George said, feeling elevated and drained at the same time. He sat down slowly in his chair again and looked the two Michaels. “Now then, how are we to solve this mess…?”

The two men looked with disdain at each other, but none of them said anything.

“Men!” kastrisios Chalkites uttered. The three men turned to look at her. “As you cannot break your word to Prince Michael, Caesar George, nor can you not let Emperor Michael be Godfather if he wants to – the solution if of course to let them both be Godfathers.” She looked at the surprised men. “A solution any five year old girl could have pointed out…in a heartbeat,” she added archly.

Caesar George looked the two Michael. “Well?”

Prince Michael turned and looked at Emperor Michael, who frowned slightly, but then nodded. “We accept,” Prince Michael said. “And thanks.”

“Excellent,” Caesar George said and stood up. “Can I see him?” he asked of his steward.

“Yes,” she said calmly. “Follow me and be quiet.” She led the way into the bedroom of kaisarissa Theodora, who lay resting with her new born baby in her arms. As the men trooped in, she opened her eyes and smiled beatifically.

Caesar George leaned down and kissed her. “Thank you, Thera, you have done well.”

“Why are they both here?” she asked looking at the Michaels. “I thought…”

“A bit of a mix up,” Caesar George said hurriedly. “Michael Palaeologus will have two Godfathers!”

“Will he now?” Thera said and burst out laughing.


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* * * * *


A few days after the birth of his son, Caesar George ordered his army to assemble in Birlad the quickest way possible – though he knew from experience it wouldn’t be all that fast. Personally he travelled light with just his personal guards and spy mistress Arete Karaïonatan. Strategos Marapas was in Peloponnesos overseeing the mobilisation of the army and the journey to Birlad.


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Caesar Georgios was quite shocked to see when he got to Birlad how little things had changed. “What a dreary place,” Arete Karaïonatan said as they rode through the streets of Birlad towards the old place of the chief of Birlad, which once again would function as headquarter while they were there.

“Well, you are in luck,” Caesar George said somewhat sourly though privately agreeing with her, “you’ll be staying here for the duration being our link to Empire – where we are going it’s going to be even worse.”

“Perhaps,” Arete said, “though I’ve seen pigsties cleaner than this. You better have a long word with the local Kephale.”

“There isn’t one,” Caesar George said. “Only some low level army officers and a skeletal force. The recruit drive around here is going real slow.”

Arete laughed. “I bet.” She stroked her horse to calm it as it was reacting to the dreadful smell of the place. “You better make one then. This place, though primitive, is part of the Empire now.”

“I know. Unfortunately, there aren’t many Greeks here yet.”

“Perhaps,” Arete said slowly, “if you appoint someone young, intelligent and most important of all – ambitious – it doesn’t really matter what race he is. Actually, a Pecheneg might well work out better than a Greek.”

“Oh?”

“Yes, they need to see that their future lies with the Empire and how better to do that than to have one as Kephale. A lesson both sides need to learn.”

“Perhaps you are right – I’ll think about it. Good advise, Arete. I’m glad you’re not bitter about...you know.” He actually looked slightly uncomfortable.

“How little you know, women,” she replied archly. “Anyway, I’m glad about something too.”

“Yes?”

“That neither of us will stay here forever!”
 

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Ah! Lovely scene under the birth!:D Especially liked the interuptment of that kastrisios...:p
 

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A boy! An heir! And pretty decent stats too! :)

Good to see Michael Dukas back in a civilized place. Shame the Emperor butted in. Oh well, political expediency...

Now onward to whatever-that-last-patch-of-Pecheneg-mud-is-called! Onward to victory!
 

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"Cousin Andy" has high everything accept stewardship(which isn't that bad either and is pretty good just not compared with his other ones) so he can take everything but not run it.

Good Work, the young boy is doubly blessed to have 2 godfathers!