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No, they should be (Eastern) Roman Empire. But that's not really the big problem...

Dynastic names like in CK2 would be the best for states like Ming, the Mamlucks or the Ottomans.
There was no Eastern Roman Empire after the thrones were formally united in 476. If you want to call Byzantines Roman, then it's just Roman Empire.

Though I agree with dynastic titles for some non-European realms.
 

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Guys... If you wanna rename it, it's not that hard. Find it in the localisation (even with the demo) and rename it to whatever you want. :p Just if you plan to play online, make sure your buddies change it too.
 

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Dynastic names like in CK2 would be the best for states like Ming, the Mamlucks or the Ottomans.

Indeed, I'm sure whatever people would change the name to, be it Ottoman, Ottomans, or Turkey, having dynastic names for certain tags be dynastic would certainly be the best solution.
 

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They held Constantinople and they were powerful and they had lot of different people and kingdoms under their rule.

Yeah, but exept for the Constantinople part, the rest was true even before. The conquering of the city gave them much prestige, but to the point they should change their state name ingame, a change that doesn't reflect what happened historically?
 

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Yeah, but exept for the Constantinople part, the rest was true even before. The conquering of the city gave them much prestige, but to the point they should change their state name ingame, a change that doesn't reflect what happened historically?

They use it as legitimisation to claim the title Kaisar-i Rum. Emperor of Rome.
 

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Yeah, but exept for the Constantinople part, the rest was true even before. The conquering of the city gave them much prestige, but to the point they should change their state name ingame, a change that doesn't reflect what happened historically?

Same name really, its about their rank, when they got Constantinople they reached the rank of an empire IMO. The turkish scholars uses mostly these ranks. I.e.

Osmanli Beyligi----->Osmanli Devleti---->Osmanli Imparatorlugu

Mehmed II is considered as the second founder of Ottomans, or rather founder of the Empire. Not just by conquest of Constantiple also by his reforms within the state.
 

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They use it as legitimisation to claim the title Kaisar-i Rum. Emperor of Rome.

And as I said the conquring of the city gave them much prestige. That said though, no one in Europe was granting them any legitimacy to the title of Emperor of Rome... and the Ottomans failed to conquer the rest of what was the Roman Empire. I can see the fall of Constantinoble becoming the trigger of a DHE about the "Heirs of Rome" or something like that and consequential missions following that, but not a name change.
 

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Same name really, its about their rank, when they got Constantinople they reached the rank of an empire IMO. The turkish scholars uses mostly these ranks. I.e.

Osmanli Beyligi----->Osmanli Devleti---->Osmanli Imparatorlugu

Mehmed II is considered as the second founder of Ottomans, or rather founder of the Empire. Not just by conquest of Constantiple also by his reforms within the state.

Actually, simple Osmanli can be the name of their state, now, can't it?
 

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I think the name should definitely change to Turkey if it becomes a republic. And it always irritates me very much as a German that the English mangle their name to "Ottoman" which sound kind of German while we Germans use the more correct term "Osmanisches Reich".