The ONE silver lining about mass lowborn generals.

[unmerged(218998)]

I have only done 1 game so far since the LOR came out. I started at the Alexiad start date in 1081, and if your able to continually expand the whole game, and I have been using all of the lowborn generals and giving them each a county in the new duchy I recently counquered.

I have gone through at least 40 or 50 lowborn generals this way. And because of that I don't have to waste vasts sum's of money on inviting nobels to court. And all lowborn generals immediatly are given a House when granted the county.

Just a tip for people who didn't know what to do with all those pesky lowborns that were just sitting around muddling up your courts.

Also that way I have a mass amount of small counts for a various time until I deem it necessary to grant that land a duke. I don't find it very hard to manage a vast amount of count's, dukes and a couple kings as the Emporer.

 

[kingofrus]

Not to mention matrilineal fodder

 

[unmerged(533203)]

I agree. Also Lowborns don't have any family, so should they die, their titles reverse back to you. Helps avoiding pesky super dukes.

 

[ZechsMerquise73]

I'm usually running low on free courtiers to give land, and have to end up giving them to people in courts of my other vassals. The lowborns save me time when I can get them. If you're not planning to expand much all game, you'll probably not have that big of a retinue for that long, anyway.

 

[JonStryker]

I am doing pretty much the same thing. I constantly marry one of those guys to a kinswomen to spread my culture.

But having to spend vasts of money? A new noble costs 5 piety only. Granting one bishopric earns you piety for a couple of them

 

[unmerged(4444)]

I am doing pretty much the same thing. I constantly marry one of those guys to a kinswomen to spread my culture.

But having to spend vasts of money? A new noble costs 5 piety only. Granting one bishopric earns you piety for a couple of them

I played CKII an embarrassingly long time before I discovered the "create new vassal" button on the holding screen...

 

[Sleight of Hand]

Not to mention matrilineal fodder

Yes, this is how I get rid of all lowborn males in my court.

 

[cybrxkhan]

Yes, this is how I get rid of all lowborn males in my court.

Except for the awesome ones.

 

[Yenzen]

Who need random courtiers when you can just land (steal) random ones from your other vassals?

 

[Isaios]

Yes, this is how I get rid of all lowborn males in my court.

Except for the awesome ones.

Very this. Some of them have some rather deligthful stats. And every once in a while there's even a celibate bloke among them

 

[chimosh]

I played CKII an embarrassingly long time before I discovered the "create new vassal" button on the holding screen...

Ur not alone....

 

[Myrten]

I have gone through at least 40 or 50 lowborn generals this way. And because of that I don't have to waste vasts sum's of money on inviting nobels to court. And all lowborn generals immediatly are given a House when granted the county.

What about around 350 lowborn generals ?

Giving holdings can help in the early game but later on as tech increases manually getting rid of them would be micromanagement hell so I ignore them altogether and don't use Court tab. This really needs to be fixed

 

[kal56]

Yes, this is how I get rid of all lowborn males in my court.

I marry them off to old spinsters with the lustful trait.

 

[RustyTurban]

I know this isn't a particularly relevant response BUT. When you've got 181 vassals you've basically already won, its not seriously like your dynasty is going to run out of members because of low birth rate?

Also I see you've got land in Southern France, Germany, North Africa and Abyssinia... not bad

 

[nyah]

This is one thing I really hope is fixed in the upcoming patch.

 

[Myrten]

I know this isn't a particularly relevant response BUT. When you've got 181 vassals you've basically already won, its not seriously like your dynasty is going to run out of members because of low birth rate?

Also I see you've got land in Southern France, Germany, North Africa and Abyssinia... not bad

I guess birthrate is not lowered for the ruler, my emperors used to have 5+ children on average. Previous one produced some children when he was 92 year old, even managed to get bastards at that age
But his heir and my current emperor didn't have any children for 20+ years until he took the throne.

It might not be critical but is a bit problematic since I have almost no dynastic courtiers so I have to invite members of my dynasty from my vassals

 

[nyah]

The low birth rate gets annoying. Throughout the game I try to marry into land owning dynasties elsewhere to try to get claims or land for my dynasty. In my current game I've got so many generals that the birth rate is low in my court, so any that stay (and retain their Serbian culture) don't breed so much, and those that leave and often take on the culture of their new spouse (or at least their children do) end up breeding much more. This means that my dynasty is now mostly not of my culture, and mostly not in my court or otherwise available to grant land to.

 

[unmerged(218998)]

I am doing pretty much the same thing. I constantly marry one of those guys to a kinswomen to spread my culture.

But having to spend vasts of money? A new noble costs 5 piety only. Granting one bishopric earns you piety for a couple of them

No, that is inviting a Holy Man to your court. Inviting a nobel costs Money that is on a scale of how much you make. So being the Emporer I am it costs me around 150 gold per invite.

 

[FabiusBile]

You really should only able to get 3 generals for the retinue anyway, maybe per decisions that cost prestige/money.

It also makes the martial stats absolutely useless, since you'll be near maxed with a big retinue. All Kingdoms will have maxed generals after 1300.

 

[Casiru]

You should really stop spamming skirmish retinue if you don't want to be swamped in generals. If you have a big enough realm to support a large HC retinue then its just another minor annoyance like the 1% revolt for wrong culture or faction wars. Hell if you somehow have 100 HC retinues then your pretty much invincible without even raising levies.