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I have bad news: tommorow I can't play, too much work on wednesday evening and on thusday morning. Sorry.

I will post request in sub/perm search thread, maybe someone will sub me.
 

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see u tonight,guys
and let s try find a sub for poland
 

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Drake,

Yes, you won the Triumph for the last session.

Sorry for the late notice. I'm doing any necessary edits today, so let me know what your choice is.

As far as I can remember, Drake is the only player to have any Standards at all this session, yes? I believe the rest of us fought regular wars.
 

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HolisticGod said:
Drake,

Yes, you won the Triumph for the last session.

Sorry for the late notice. I'm doing any necessary edits today, so let me know what your choice is.

As far as I can remember, Drake is the only player to have any Standards at all this session, yes? I believe the rest of us fought regular wars.

deflation

and i'd like to exchange points for gold if there is time to edit stil
 

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meh,sorry Liff
i checked,and i saw only the first of the 2 "afk"
after that,i saw u write so i dowed
but i missed ur msg before my dow
beh,anyway,nothig happened : kj dowed me so
 

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these my wars,for a quick schedule :

September 24, 1462 : Songhai declared war upon Finland
Border,won

March 28, 1469 : Songhai declared war upon Royalists
Border,lost

September 16, 1472 : Holy Roman Empire declared war upon Songhai
Border,won

April 26, 1474 : Finland declared war upon Songhai
Real,wp

April 30, 1474 : Poland declared war upon Songhai
Real,won

February 13, 1481 : Songhai declared war upon Royalists
Border,draw

August 20, 1482 : Songhai declared war upon Finland
Border (with the mess),draw

October 11, 1482 : Poland declared war upon Songhai
Real,won
 

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was a bit unluck session for Barbarians
2 devasting fire :(
and,mostly,the naval battle were a pain in the ass
no admiral,is ok
lost 1000vs450 (with leader)exiting by a port,and is ok
but,damn it,lose 1020 vs 600 and none leader for both really suxx (last vs finland)
and all happened in common national waters
 

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The Duke of York reports that the session went excellently well. Despite being out shipped almost 2:1, the Home Fleet dispatched the easily sunk galleys of our neighbor to the south. Barbarians aren't so good at handling ships apparently. :p

In other news, the Duke is almost ready to announce the development of a new trade concept. Rumors run wild, speculation is rampant, but informed sources say it involves barring nations from Centers of Trade under control of the Duke. Good friends, of course, need not worry. Someone with a sense of the silly has proposed calling the tactic "embargo."

BTW: Dago, your chance of losing naval battles increased significantly by your monarch's poor military rating.

Speaking of fleets, what the hell happened to Shigure's fleet? :eek:
 

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yeah,Barbarians arent good sailors
lol
248 galleys lost for sunk 1 finnish and 6 royalist
never seen

btw,i wait explanations by HG and liff,for their warships :p
same for Poland

also the GM built a colony?my proposal is +5 inflation for HG :rofl:
 
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Dago,

If you mean the colony in the Middle East, yeah. That was so Ryo could give five provinces to all countries. There's also one in Persia sent by the Fins that will be deleted.

As far as my warships, they were Omani-Hedjaz that weren't disbanded. It didn't occur to me that it mattered, as I forgot Granada had the Nile port. They'll be disbanded next session. I also got two +10 events but I believe those fleets were both sunk. Shame too, as they were the only good events I had all session.

And how you lost those naval battles, I'll never know. :D

DSY,

Shig divided his fleets and I had a good admiral. :D In home waters, it was pretty ugly. Went better for him in the open sea and around Crete, but ultimately that first defeat was very difficult to recover from.

Look at the stats, it's incredible the disparity between Northern European navies and Mediterranean navies. 600-900 versus 200-400, when one would expect the Mediterranean to be clogged with ships. I suppose when Drake, Shig and I have shipyards, we'll close that gap rather quickly in a naval arms race to end all naval arms races. :D But it's still quite a surprise.

All,

It's come to my attention that I made a key mistake in the genator. If you note how many provinces Byzantium has versus its manpower compared to countries with fewer, you'll see I'm getting far less bang for the buck. This is because ROTW provinces were set to much lower manpower than European. Tax base too, if I'm not mistaken, which I'll have to check in the script. This was for a game with colonies, not one set only in Europe. It didn't occur to me to change it for the Middle East and North Africa since it wouldn't make any difference as far as colonization.

This only affects Carthage and Byzantium, but obviously affects them quite substantially. I'll post exactly numbers later on.

Now, I'm not sure we necessarily need to do anything about this, but I wanted to get all your thoughts.

As far as the session:

Standards
Roman Empire: 7
Holy Roman Empire: 3
York: 1
The Tribes: 1
Kazan: 0
Poland: 0
Finland: 0
Carthage: -1

The Empress gains the Triumph. She and Caesar have each led one procession through the steets of Constantinople and hold equal glory in the eyes of Rome.
 

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HolisticGod said:
All,

It's come to my attention that I made a key mistake in the genator. If you note how many provinces Byzantium has versus its manpower compared to countries with fewer, you'll see I'm getting far less bang for the buck. This is because ROTW provinces were set to much lower manpower than European. Tax base too, if I'm not mistaken, which I'll have to check in the script. This was for a game with colonies, not one set only in Europe. It didn't occur to me to change it for the Middle East and North Africa since it wouldn't make any difference as far as colonization.

This only affects Carthage and Byzantium, but obviously affects them quite substantially. I'll post exactly numbers later on.

i strongly disagree upon this
for 2 reasons :

1.it ll unbalance the game
2.byzantium and north africa are anyway the 2 countries with more AI expansion,in all north africa and middle east
if we had a tunisi,or mameluk,i could agree
but discuss upon it with such roster (without human in the entire south of europe) will suxx a lot
 

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HolisticGod said:
And how you lost those naval battles, I'll never know. :D

i know the reason
is the leader generator : some1 gets ton of 5/6 shock leader every session,and some1 else neither an admiral and just a 5 shock general by start of game ;)
 

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Dago,

You said you lost against navy without admirals, though.

At any rate, yes, the leader generator has to be dramatically rethought. What are everybody's thoughts on playing without leaders altogether?

It'd eliminate some of the spice, but it'd also eliminate our trouble with it.
 

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HolisticGod said:
Dago,

You said you lost against navy without admirals, though.

At any rate, yes, the leader generator has to be dramatically rethought. What are everybody's thoughts on playing without leaders altogether?

It'd eliminate some of the spice, but it'd also eliminate our trouble with it.

yeah,true
vs finland i lost 1022 vs 660 or somethign similar,both withotu leader
but whatever
about delete totally leaders i would agree
even if what about everybody has chance for choose his leaders?
i mean : everybody has a disposition 50 for generals and 50 for admirals (for example)
so one can choose for have five 3-3-3-1 leaders,or a 6-6-6 and a 4-4-4 for example
everybody chooses his own warriors

now,we can add some feature ,as
winning wars or killing other leader give bonus(or points),that can integrate the leader of following session
for example : i win 2 wars (we can follow MT rules for it),or kill some other leaders and in following session i ve 2points at disposition,and my 4-4-4 becomes a 4-5-5

these are just thoughts,upon whose we need work
just a crazy idea :) but fun and flamour
 

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we own will choose also the names :)

i d make a similar thig also for monarch
1 single monarch,that become better (or worst) for achieves or less in the game
 

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again

if leader A kills leader B,the leader A will gain 1 point for following session,and leader B will be edited back,but with 1 point less

not coz is mine,but i m sure is a very good idea :rolleyes:
 

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they would be our Heros :cool: