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Rebels get a core on a province when they occupy it while they previously had no core.
Only if the province is of their culture.
 
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View attachment 229910 How am I doing?I try to get the third way achievement and maybe over a thousand
Maybe a bit offtopic. Create a thread to ask for help about this. From what I see you are doing ok, however. Your priority should be to get to Egypt asap to secure it before the Ottomans, and then to invade India, to get a massive income base. Try to placate the Ottomans as much as possible for now, possibly get an alliance thanks to common rivalry with the Mamluks. Despite you being heretic, you could keep it for long. The Ottomans passivity is really helping you.
 
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Maybe a bit offtopic. Create a thread to ask for help about this. From what I see you are doing ok, however. Your priority should be to get to Egypt asap to secure it before the Ottomans, and then to invade India, to get a massive income base. Try to placate the Ottomans as much as possible for now, possibly get an alliance thanks to common rivalry with the Mamluks. Despite you being heretic, you could keep it for long. The Ottomans passivity is really helping you.
Agreed. But also expand south. You could use that trade company region in africa to get an extra merchant and a nice collection node once you conquer it completely.
 

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I wouldn't call it a number 1 priority, even if this is a logical move, because noone will take this area in a while, so you can conquer them in 40 years or whenever you have some manpower/admin points to spare.
 

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Agreed. But also expand south. You could use that trade company region in africa to get an extra merchant and a nice collection node once you conquer it completely.

I'd move the capital out of Asia (-> Europe is ideal, -> Africa is OK) in order to make trade companies in Asia. Zanzibar/Cape trade companies are OK, but they're nothing compared to the aggregate value of all the Asian TC land you'll grab in a typical Oman game.

Zanzibar is probably the safest collection hub though, with Cape as a buffer zone.
 

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I'd move the capital out of Asia (-> Europe is ideal, -> Africa is OK) in order to make trade companies in Asia. Zanzibar/Cape trade companies are OK, but they're nothing compared to the aggregate value of all the Asian TC land you'll grab in a typical Oman game.

Zanzibar is probably the safest collection hub though, with Cape as a buffer zone.
That won't be easy, right? How exactly are the current rule for moving to another continent? You need more provinces on the new continent? So he would have to go into Africa or Europe very aggressively.
 

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That won't be easy, right? How exactly are the current rule for moving to another continent? You need more provinces on the new continent? So he would have to go into Africa or Europe very aggressively.
I think it's still the rule that you only may have one province on your home continent. At least when I wanted to move my capital to America and had around 10 provinces there I had to sell all my provinces to be able to change capital.
 

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I think it's still the rule that you only may have one province on your home continent. At least when I wanted to move my capital to America and had around 10 provinces there I had to sell all my provinces to be able to change capital.
If that's still the case, it would be very unpractical for him to move his capital... He'd never regain all that lost cores via the extra money he gains with trade companies. If he conquers India and collects most of the trade from india in Zanzibar/Cape he would make almost as much money without the need to abandon that many cores...
 

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If that's still the case, it would be very unpractical for him to move his capital... He'd never regain all that lost cores via the extra money he gains with trade companies. If he conquers India and collects most of the trade from india in Zanzibar/Cape he would make almost as much money without the need to abandon that many cores...
You can of course give your provinces to a vassal but if it's in 1.19 that option won't be possible. Also, it could be that it has to do with states, and not actual amount of provinces. Maybe it's best to test it.
 

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If that's still the case, it would be very unpractical for him to move his capital... He'd never regain all that lost cores via the extra money he gains with trade companies. If he conquers India and collects most of the trade from india in Zanzibar/Cape he would make almost as much money without the need to abandon that many cores...

It's changed a few times, but I think the current rule is you need 1/3 of your provinces (number of provinces, not development) to be on the continent you want to move to. That means a move to Africa is still quite practical, as you can take a ton of cheap provinces to shift the numbers - no need to give up any land from the position shown. Moving straight to Zanzibar would also put the trade hub in a good position and doesn't feel too gamey as Oman (the Sultan really did move there in the 19th century). A move to Europe is theoretically better (getting TCs in Africa as well, and unlocks a few Europe-only mechanics), but a lot more challenging in practice and probably not worth the effort.

He talked about 'over 1000' achievement, so he'll never turn everything into states, but even if he could, I don't think it's optimal. In India, I'd prefer to have TC land along the coast (gives TCs the vast majority of provincial trade power) and then later states inland (which can then be filled with moneyfactories). It's a very profitable setup, as you get bonus goods production in nodes that are producing great trade goods to start with. The extra merchants will also give a very healthy amount of boost once you've shipped everything around the Indian Ocean to Zanzibar. So it's potentially more money overall than painting India solidly with fully cored states, and you save on the states and coring costs to free those resources up elsewhere.
 
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You can of course give your provinces to a vassal but if it's in 1.19 that option won't be possible. Also, it could be that it has to do with states, and not actual amount of provinces. Maybe it's best to test it.
Why would it be impossible in 1.19?

Anyway, this strat seems a bit excessive for the little gain.
 

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Why would it be impossible in 1.19?

Anyway, this strat seems a bit excessive for the little gain.
Because sometimes the tooltip says it will release a nation as a vassal while it actually releases it as a protectorate, and protectorates are as we all know broken at the moment.
 
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Because sometimes the tooltip says it will release a nation as a vassal while it actually releases it as a protectorate, and protectorates are as we all know broken at the moment.
No. First of all this has not changed in between 1.19 and 1.18. And second and most important: On your home continent, protectorates are impossible. And since vassals always stay vassals they will not become protectorates once you move your capital! And btw, this is a good reason NOT to move you capital away from asia. Being able to create vassals in all of asia is very powerful.
 
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Oh, and the tooltip is now quite clear, in 1.19. It wasn't in 1.18, but this is the opposite, it has been fixed, you now always know if you will release a vassal or a protectorate.
On top of that, you can safely release a nation that has embraced all the institutions on all of its cores, and feed them your land. If he wants to feed his homeland to a vassal, then we can guess this vassal will be created from cores near the center of his empire, so with institutions up to date.

Now, having a capital in Asia is really powerful, as Gratak says. Being able to create client states in all of Asia, and vassals to a lesser degree, is really powerful. With an Asian capital, you can create vassals in Europe anyway as they should be up to date with institutions, and Africa is small enough in terms of development that it doesn't really matter.



Back to the topic, I have a strange screenshot:
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Austria is trying to become an elector but they can't do it, so they think that maybe, if they grant electorship to people having similar flags, this will help. Augsburg, Utrecht and Lübeck, all red and white without any symbol. Good job Austria!
 
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