The Obligatory CK2 Strange Screenshot Thread
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And Wiki actually states correctly, that this is how it "should" be. But should it be this way? Any astrologists here? 
Homo-friends with benefits, because this game thinks that you can BECOME a gay #brokebackmonastery
So you claim he married his wife out of love and passion and not solely because someone told him the realm needs an heir and this woman is perfect to produce him one....? Some people take until their fourties to out themselves- or disocver their real identity- or longer, it can happen
I mean, it isn't like they have a ready supply of porn they can use to discover their interests, likes, and dislikes back then. It's pretty easy to figure out your sexuality in the age of the internet, significantly less so in medieval Europe.
It's kind of a cultural thing I could argue.
You're playing Charlemagne, so the heir pressure was real, as was marriage politics. Arguably, even the historical Charlemagne focused fully on warfare and only on monastic studies and self reflection later on in his life, so him finding out he was into men all along in some scenario- sounds legit.
Not everyone has the luxury to openly live gay and simply have his wife take on lovers to provide the needed heirs because he himself has literally 0 fertility and everyone knows the Emperor prefers to hang at Mt. Olympus to train throwing the discus naked with the other guys!
You're playing Charlemagne, so the heir pressure was real, as was marriage politics. Arguably, even the historical Charlemagne focused fully on warfare and only on monastic studies and self reflection later on in his life, so him finding out he was into men all along in some scenario- sounds legit.
Not everyone has the luxury to openly live gay and simply have his wife take on lovers to provide the needed heirs because he himself has literally 0 fertility and everyone knows the Emperor prefers to hang at Mt. Olympus to train throwing the discus naked with the other guys!
No idea how or why this happened
My guess he that he got captured by Germanic, with his mother, while he was a kid and got taught their way, then he somehow found a weakness in the Abbasid while adventuring, after been freed.
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Yes, poor Oscar Wilde, Sappho and Michelangelo - living all their lives without realizing that they were homosexual. I think you are both mistaken. If you like naked men, you know it. You don't need porn and internet to understand it. How you will accept that is another matter.
Don't ask how, but this Christian Mongol managed to declare himself Genghis Khan in the year 901, with no intervention on my part...
You have chosen persons from VERY different time-space intervals.
Medieval Western-Central Europe and that time Christianity put great emphasis on "zero sexuality" behaviors. It doesn't meant, everyone followed, but sexuality as we know it know was suppressed greatly. Making love (any type of it) was not something a man would think much that days - at least he was taught not to. Man was taught to seek 'honor', 'virtue', not a bedchamber. This basically meant any type of sexuality was so suppressed in a subject, that said subject couldn't even notice (or would forcefully discard them) any sexual preferences. A man would literary make love with a woman often only to produce a child, not because, ya now, it's kind of a pleasure. Man could even feel disgust for such a thing. Embracing sexuality was tabu (lust is one of seven deadly sins for a reason). Therefore one man could not properly feel attraction to other man simply because 'attraction' was already kinda 'unclean'.
I think baby bones under monasteries pretty much prove how strictly people followed that doctrine. Anyway, "homosexual" should be a genetic trait, not a choice.
The game covers 700 years and wide variety of cultures and religions. I don't think a blanket statement as to attitudes towards sexuality can be made that would apply everyway at all times and places portrayed. I'm not even sure how accurate this would be for Christian Europe during the Dark Ages (it might be, I'm certainly no expert on the subject).
Karl clearly had it in him all along. The question is not to be gay or not be gay, but rather to embrace it, as I see it.
If homosexuality was genetic, ironically enough, everything stated above regards this honour thing and what not else would be void, because if it was within people's genes, no one ever would have decided to deny it, or to marry despite no sexual interest in women and so on, for the sole reason that same as being stupid or intelligent, it'd be your genes and there was no actual choice (which there is, a gay man can reflect and decide to not have sexual intercourse with men despite having a basic sexual interestin them. There's even a dedicated event expressing just that for homoesxual characters, where you can either try to start an amorous affaire, or simply become friends).
If homosexuality was genetic, ironically enough, everything stated above regards this honour thing and what not else would be void, because if it was within people's genes, no one ever would have decided to deny it, or to marry despite no sexual interest in women and so on, for the sole reason that same as being stupid or intelligent, it'd be your genes and there was no actual choice (which there is, a gay man can reflect and decide to not have sexual intercourse with men despite having a basic sexual interestin them. There's even a dedicated event expressing just that for homoesxual characters, where you can either try to start an amorous affaire, or simply become friends).
Let's stop flood and offtop, could we please? Anyone can create a separate thread and discuss this thoroughly
This is not the thread for this. If you want to continue this argument make a thread somewhere or even better do it privately. The community works pretty hard to keep our various political opinions to ourselves most of the time.
My ruler has about 8 children with unknown mothers. Maybe it's related to conquering China?
