The sunni holy order the bektashi order won the catholic crusade for germany after my liege surrendered to the pope while having 90% warscore in our favour
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It says Wiglaf Cerdicing won the crusade, and the leader of the holy order doesn't have a million titles. Are you sure the Bektashi Order didn't just invade because they weren't paid?
I think the Bektashi Order won the Crusade because they had the highest contribution, but the Pope granted the lands to Wiglaf, who apparently is a member of the order, or had a claim on Germany.
The bektashi order is not catholic, so probably the only reason they would be fighting in the crusade is if they were the popes tributary. If there is a claimant, it doesn't matter who actually contributes the most warscore, the land always goes to the claimant.
But I'm not sure why an unlanded courtier in the bektashi order would continue to be their vassal after being handed land from a crusade. Is this a special feature of holy orders?
But I'm not sure why an unlanded courtier in the bektashi order would continue to be their vassal after being handed land from a crusade. Is this a special feature of holy orders?
Given that regular vassals of kings continue to be their vassals even after winning a Crusade for Jerusalem, why not?
Also, the one before that is having all three flavors of Judaism next door to each other. You have Jewish, Karaite and Samaritan in single provinces. Also proves it's the Stamford start, since in ToG there is no reason for the Khazars to be anything other than Jewish.
These are truly dark times for the order, and dark times require harsh measures.
...or insane ones.
...or insane ones.
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Place an immortal horse as a leader of monastic order. Oh yeah!
Wait, is it possible to make your horse an anti-pope? Make him a pope, it'll be an immortal pope-horse...
here's the crazy part, this happened on its own, no influence whatsoever on my part
If I were a king and one of my unlanded courtiers was granted land in a crusade, they would become independent. Why would it be different for holy orders?
the courtier had no claim on Germany there were none. He just somehow managed to get the highest war contribution . Did a great holy war right after this
I think he is talking about there a being both a Karaite and Samaritan county right next to the only Jewish one.
He must have been a claimant, since he wasn't landed and thus had no army with which to fight in the crusade.
I remember getting 90% of Hungary as the duke of Sicily after the Arpads turned heretic and the wife of one of my vassal counts was a claimant. She became a super-countess under me.
That can't be right, because I know I've seen previously claimants who became independent crusader states after a crusade, and if they are supposed to start beholden to whoever's court they happen to be in that wouldn't happen.
Nope. This is the religious layout in 769 aka old gods start. I only ever play that until I lose interest. So I am not familiar with later starts. You can see there are LOT more slavic where that huge blob of Orthodox was due to later starts. At any rate it doesn't matter since I wasn't aware he did a later start.
769 is Charlemagne start. The Old Gods start is 867 (aka The Viking Age). Is right there in the picture.
Eh my bad still on naming. My point still stand with respect to orthodox and slavic/pagan.
And it is 90% likely to not be the start he used for his screenshot (aqua).
