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Originally posted by Filou
Would the representative of Spain please check their mail... their PM was rather full... :)

I dont seem to have gotten any mail from you....not now nor recently?!? Are u sure u are writing to the correct email address? claus_boehm@hotmail.com

claus - ps: try PM I have cleaned it out so there should now be plenty of room
 

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Re: Pommern-Holstein Union.

Eh? Are you switching to Holstein SirExec, as Ondoval has guessed? If you're switching countries, why not switch to Poland, Genoa or Papal States?
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Can you tell us all the price of help for Pommern from Saxony? I for one would like to know, since you never asked.
 

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Articles of the High Summit in Izmir, 1004AH

1)The Ottoman Empire and the Sultanate of Oman pledge eternal allegiance and solidarity. An aggressor to one nation, is considered an act of aggression on the other.

2)The Ottoman Empire and the Sultanate of Oman both will recall ambassadors and close diplomatic channels with whom either nation views as hostile, until whenever both nations agree otherwise.

3)The Alliance is based on Trust, Honour and Equality, and for that reason will last the test of time.

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Articles of the High Summit in Izmir, 1004AH

1)The Ottoman Empire and the Sultanate of Oman pledge eternal allegiance and solidarity. An aggressor to one nation, is considered an act of aggression on the other.

2)The Ottoman Empire and the Sultanate of Oman both will recall ambassadors and close diplomatic channels with whom either nation views as hostile, until whenever both nations agree otherwise.

3)The Alliance is based on Trust, Honour and Equality, and for that reason will last the test of time.

Signed
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Signed
Sultan Makhzum of the Sultanate of Oman
 

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1609

Is there still a Polish Representative in this Diplomatic room?

The kingdom of England would REALLY like to sign a peace between our two nations!
 

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Re: 1609

Originally posted by Filou
Is there still a Polish Representative in this Diplomatic room?

The kingdom of England would REALLY like to sign a peace between our two nations!

This request is seconded by Sweden! Our nation has no grudge against the Poland-Lithauen commonwealth. Although we have be winning on the battlefield in this war we only wish a white peace.
 

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1609 the Catholic League

The Sovereign of Spain Felipe III is most joyfull that the vision of creating a Catholic League finally came to fruitation during the latest decade. However, now is not the time to rest on our laurels now is the time to let action replace mere words....and so acting within his capacity as emperor of the HRE he call upon his catholic brother monarchs to honour the spirit of the Catholic League and stand together to cleanse the lands besoiled by the teachings of Luther and Calvin so as to not have any more virgin catholic provinces perveted by their false preachings. God teach us to forgive the wayward and help them back onto the rightous path, well I say that Luther and Calvin are not wayward NAY they are the devilspawn incarnate and as such we can only redem their fallen desciples and cleanse the infested land by use of the FIRE! - Brother catholics, this truly is a perilious time and we are lucky and should consider ourselves blessed to live in such times that our faith and resolve may be tested by going up against evil itself....Also while speaking of our infested brothers, turned traitors against all that is good, we must not forget the spread of the hell-spawn-on-earth itself....the Ottomans, the defilers of the patriacate of Byzantium and destroyers of the civilization of Rome...while we rest on our laurels and count our own blessings they consolidate their strength by uniting all the hellish lands of the saracens and soon their hellspawned hordes will fall upon the lands of Christ....Brothers we MUST unite in this common test to prevail against this final test of our serenity and devotion............
 

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While I appreciate the ire of Spain against the heretical Lutherans and Calvinists, they are not the threat to Catholic Europe that the Turk is. He holds many lands that properly belong to Catholic powers, including the holy city itself, and with the imminent fall of Alexandria, he will be the most powerful ruler in the Eastern portion of the world. The protestants, heretics though they may be, are still cousins to those of us within the true faith. Do we not abide the existence of the schismatic Orthodox? With these seperated brethern, we can have faith that the One True God shall lead them back to the One True Catholic and Apostolic Church. But the Turkish threat looms large in our minds these last days.
 

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England 1609

How nice to see a papist follower call for a fight against the devilspawned follower of Luther and Calvin.
How nice to see the leader of the largest and strongest alliance in the World call for a crusade to increase even more his power.
And even nicer to ear this form someone that has yet to cleanse his own land from the moslems.
To hear this from the descedant of someone that had the chance of expelling the moores but decided to keep the for economic reasons.

I can see the thrue nature of this hatrid: GREED

You of all people should know that it is a deadly sin.

At least I can see that this greed is not shared by the all the leaders of the Habsburg House.
Austria has a clearer sense of the real threatsof Europe.
 

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On behalf of SirExeC, ruler of Poland:

The Polish people have made clear their wish that all of Europe and the world may follow the One True Faith. As the first servant of this good folk, it is my intention to see through their desire, that all men may achieve salvation.
 

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The archduke of Austria welcomes the king of Poland, and wishes to remind him that the Infidel lies at his very gates; indeed, this Infidel has taken territory which by all rights belongs to Poland, and which should be recovered by, if need be, the combined efforts of Christian Europe.
 

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Russia wants to welcome the new ruler of Poland. Let me start by assuring you, that Russias only interest is peace with Poland, and we have absolutely no interests in territory currently owned by Poland.

To improve relations, we suggest both contries back down on any past claims on territory. (Removal of CB shields on eachothers provinces).

Ondoval
 

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Re: England 1609

Originally posted by Filou
How nice to see a papist follower call for a fight against the devilspawned follower of Luther and Calvin.
How nice to see the leader of the largest and strongest alliance in the World call for a crusade to increase even more his power.
And even nicer to ear this form someone that has yet to cleanse his own land from the moslems.
To hear this from the descedant of someone that had the chance of expelling the moores but decided to keep the for economic reasons.

The Crown of Spain wish to point out that there might have been a small misunderstanding here in that while it is true that we have issued a call to unite against the unholy saracens and to show our wayward brothers the lutherans & calvinists the way back to the rightous path. And yes we the king of Spain did have opportunity to expel the Moors from our nation, but why should we? They are Moors not unholy saracens seeking to defile all that is holy! No, the Moors are a honorable and hardworking people whom we treasure as part of our glorious kingdom as while they might go about their worship of the true faith in a slightly different manner they are still a people of the true god.

The Crown of Spain is not narrowminded and we do not persecute people merely for being different therefor we see no reason to persecute or expell the Moors no more than we see to expel the jews from the provinces under our protection. Likewise we also see no reason to harbour hostile intentions towards the "jewish" nation of England or the "Moorish" nations of Persia & Oman and we hope said nations recognize that their people have no reason to fear the burning sword of catholic rightousness.

Felipe III
Monarch of Spain & Emperor of the HRE

ps: Should any nation believe that its mainly "moorish" or "jewish" religious belief have been overlooked they should feel free to request a visit from the spanish inquisition to establish the truth of the matter.
 
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I wish to contrast the recent communications of the ambassador of Spain. Never before have I seen such doublespeak. I can only assume that the ambassador was acting outside the authority of the King of Spain and Emperor of the Holy Roman Empire.

First...
The Sovereign of Spain Felipe III is most joyfull that the vision of creating a Catholic League finally came to fruitation during the latest decade. However, now is not the time to rest on our laurels now is the time to let action replace mere words....and so acting within his capacity as emperor of the HRE he call upon his catholic brother monarchs to honour the spirit of the Catholic League and stand together to cleanse the lands besoiled by the teachings of Luther and Calvin so as to not have any more virgin catholic provinces perveted by their false preachings. God teach us to forgive the wayward and help them back onto the rightous path, well I say that Luther and Calvin are not wayward NAY they are the devilspawn incarnate and as such we can only redem their fallen desciples and cleanse the infested land by use of the FIRE! - Brother catholics, this truly is a perilious time and we are lucky and should consider ourselves blessed to live in such times that our faith and resolve may be tested by going up against evil itself....Also while speaking of our infested brothers, turned traitors against all that is good, we must not forget the spread of the hell-spawn-on-earth itself....the Ottomans, the defilers of the patriacate of Byzantium and destroyers of the civilization of Rome...while we rest on our laurels and count our own blessings they consolidate their strength by uniting all the hellish lands of the saracens and soon their hellspawned hordes will fall upon the lands of Christ....Brothers we MUST unite in this common test to prevail against this final test of our serenity and devotion............
To be followed mere days later by...
Originally posted by boehm
The Crown of Spain wish to point out that there might have been a small misunderstanding here in that while it is true that we have issued a call to unite against the unholy saracens and to show our wayward brothers the lutherans & calvinists the way back to the rightous path. And yes we the king of Spain did have opportunity to expel the Moors from our nation, but why should we? They are Moors not unholy saracens seeking to defile all that is holy! No, the Moors are a honorable and hardworking people whom we treasure as part of our glorious kingdom as while they might go about their worship of the true faith in a slightly different manner they are still a people of the true god.

The Crown of Spain is not narrowminded and we do not persecute people merely for being different therefor we see no reason to persecute or expell the Moors no more than we see to expel the jews from the provinces under our protection. Likewise we also see no reason to harbour hostile intentions towards the "jewish" nation of England or the "Moorish" nations of Persia & Oman and we hope said nations recognize that their people have no reason to fear the burning sword of catholic rightousness.

Felipe III
Monarch of Spain & Emperor of the HRE

ps: Should any nation believe that its mainly "moorish" or "jewish" religious belief have been overlooked they should feel free to request a visit from the spanish inquisition to establish the truth of the matter.
The section I got most confused by, was how England could be "Jewish" and yet inspired by the teachings of "Devilspawn incarnate."

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OOC: Claus, almost looks like an "Insanity of monarch" event there. :D :p
 
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Originally posted by Gorlin
And we all know how those end..... just look to Burgundy. :D

ohhh no...does that mean I have to give half my territory to Saxony? :eek: ...and then switch to playing Aragon?
 

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Treaty of Sarajewo

Valid 1609 - 1659

Austria, Spain and the Ottoman Empire declare that :

The rulers of the three countries have ordered a truce between them for a period of 50 years.

In case the countries are unexpectedly at war with each other a white peace will be signed at the earliest available opportunity.

In case one of the countries conquers a province, which was owned by one of the other countries involved in this treaty directly before it was conquered, it will be ceded to the former owner as soon as possible. For such a cession no compensation will be required.

In 1609 The Ottoman Empire will cede Maros to Austria. Therefore The Ottoman Empire will receive a compensation of 200 AP's from Austria.

In 1619, 1629, 1639 and 1649 the Ottoman Empire will transfer an amount of 200 ducats to Austria.

In 1609 the Ottoman Empire will release the Kingdom of Jerusalem as a vassal.

This treaty has a validity of 50 years.

Signed by
Mehmed III
Sultan of the Ottoman Empire

Edit : Corrected number error
 
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Treaty of Krakow

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Poland and the Ottoman Empire declare that :

The rulers of the two countries have ordered a truce between them for a period of 50 years.

In case the countries are unexpectedly at war with each other a white peace will be signed at the earliest available opportunity.

In case one of the countries conquers a province which was owned by the other country directly before it was conquered, it will be ceded to the former owner as soon as possible. For such a cession no compensation will be required.

In 1609 Poland will receive an amount of 500 ducats from the Ottoman Empire

This treaty has a validity of 50 years.

Signed by
Mehmed III
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Originally posted by AVN
Treaty of Sarajewo

Valid 1609 - 1659

Austria, Spain and the Ottoman Empire declare that :

The rulers of the two countries have ordered a truce between them for a period of 50 years.

In case the countries are unexpectedly at war with each other a white peace will be signed at the earliest available opportunity.

In case one of the countries conquers a province, which was owned by one of the other countries involved in this treaty directly before it was conquered, it will be ceded to the former owner as soon as possible. For such a cession no compensation will be required.

In 1609 The Ottoman Empire will cede Maros to Austria. Therefore The Ottoman Empire will receive a compensation of 200 AP's from Austria.

In 1619, 1629, 1639 and 1649 the Ottoman Empire will transfer an amount of 200 ducats to Austria.

In 1609 the Ottoman Empire will release the Kingdom of Jerusalem as a vassal.

This treaty has a validity of 50 years.

Signed by
Mehmed III
Sultan of the Ottoman Empire

Spain ratifies this treaty....