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So what this was a basic tutorial video for people who knew nothing of the came.
And there are many better ways they could have done it. Take a look at what has, I think, become the gold standard of battletech video streams:


It is a MUCH BETTER introduction than the recent stream. They have a guy who is a fan of the series, but doesn't know the game. They have Mitch as an expert on the game, and they have a guy who has never heard of Battletech so that the other two can share their love with someone new.

Then the simple indisputable differences:
  • The action was kept continuous once it started (and it started much quicker than the recent stream),
  • they finished the match in an hour (even if they split that one hout into two 30 minute videos),
  • it was informative and perfect for newbies to the game, while still being action packed enough that people already familiar can still enjoy.
It sure as hell can't be described as dry.
 

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Did I see a different stream? Mitch wasn't in there in the one I watched - I would have noticed. He's the most charismatic person at HBS, at least that I've seen on stream. Would've put a bit of life in the very dry stream.
 

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Never said he was in the most recent Paradox stream. try reading what I wrote again.

Ah I see. Sorry about that.

My point still stands, and it seems you might even agree that having Mitch on would have been an improvement.
 

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Ah I see. Sorry about that.

My point still stands, and it seems you might even agree that having Mitch on would have been an improvement.
Mitch is a natural-born Showman, who most definitely has his lane and is a preeminent BattleTech Illuminati...

...but no, as the Stream turned to Combat Strategies, I very much would prefer to have Connor at the helm. Connor was a real contender during the HBS “In-house” BATTLETECH Tourney.

Jordan imo ALWAYS has a place at the mic/table/Panel/whatever when it comes to BattleTech/BATTLETECH.

As the focus for cKnoor’s weekly BATTLETECH stream changes, I hope HBS has the opportunity to continue to participate and I would like to see Team HBS draw from its Game Development Bench according to the stream’s focus.

I hope cKnoor has the time to get a quick outline and tentative guest names out to us we’ll prior to this upcoming Stream. It would be fun to discuss it here on the forum before they kick off the stream... it most definitely would build the hype and excitement imo. : )
 

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I posted this elsewhere, but my hypothetical list of weekly streams:
  1. Another basics skirmish finishing up what was left out, such as the other Mechwarrior abilities. (McCain and Wrath?)
  2. PvP battle and start covering advanced concepts. Start with the choosing of mechs and mechwarriors. (Mitch and Eck? Mitch vs cKnoor in the PvP)
  3. Cover the "Sim" basics, then do a really easy contract mission, including the negotiating of the contract. (Kiva and RedMenace?)
  4. Use the mechlab to repair and customize mechs as well as finish covering any remaining "Sim" features (Tyler and TheBaron?)
  5. A release party stream, starting a game to cover chargen and then some more PvP. (EVERYONE!?)
So no storyline spoilers, but you'll see the rest of what the game has to offer.

I'm too easygoing to worry about when the game will come out (and I have bigger real-life stuff to juggle), but I see how not giving an actual release date can fuel wild speculation. That said, I don't think it will hurt sales. As long as it's not negative reviews of the actual game itself, then "all press is good press", imho. And everyone will forget the "release date scandals of 2018". I still see no problem with a last week of April release, as these streams are only super effective for a limited time and becomes diminishing returns as people stop watching the new ones, having found out "enough" to decide if they will buy or not. (Except for us diehard fans who already purchased and dissect everything.)

I still think the only missing piece, and should come early April, is letting Twitch and YouTube personalities get their hands on the game, but don't allow them to include anything at all about the storyline when they do their "first looks" etc. This also lets them prefilm / edit the start of a campaign playthrough and start posting it as soon as the game releases. This is good for initial sales as well. This day and age, a lot of people make or don't make purchases based on real gameplay videos on YouTube/Twitch.
 
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Mitch is a natural-born Showman, who most definitely has his lane and is a preeminent BattleTech Illuminati...

...but no, as the Stream turned to Combat Strategies, I very much would prefer to have Connor at the helm. Connor was a real contender during the HBS “In-house” BATTLETECH Tourney.

Jordan imo ALWAYS has a place at the mic/table/Panel/whatever when it comes to BattleTech/BATTLETECH.

As the focus for cKnoor’s weekly BATTLETECH stream changes, I hope HBS has the opportunity to continue to participate and I would like to see Team HBS draw from its Game Development Bench according to the stream’s focus.

I hope cKnoor has the time to get a quick outline and tentative guest names out to us we’ll prior to this upcoming Stream. It would be fun to discuss it here on the forum before they kick off the stream... it most definitely would build the hype and excitement imo. : )

Be those things as they may, I was bored to tears, to be frank, with the latest stream. No faux pas, that was great, but pretty tedious to watch. I don't think that's how to get new people to buy in. Well maybe tabletop people. :p
 

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Be those things as they may, I was bored to tears, to be frank, with the latest stream. No faux pas, that was great, but pretty tedious to watch. I don't think that's how to get new people to buy in. Well maybe tabletop people. :p
I imagine it would have been easier to watch if you actually don't know about any of the game mechanics. There is then a reason for you to be watching. There wasn't enough new in the presentation to keep my interest either.
 

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I'm too easygoing to worry about when the game will come out (and I have bigger real-life stuff to juggle), but I see how not giving an actual release date can fuel wild speculation. That said, I don't think it will hurt sales. As long as it's not negative reviews of the actual game itself, then "all press is good press", imho. And everyone will forget the "release date scandals of 2018". I still see no problem with a last week of April release, as these streams are only super effective for a limited time and becomes diminishing returns as people stop watching the new ones, having found out "enough" to decide if they will buy or not. (Except for us diehard fans who already purchased and dissect everything.)

I still think the only missing piece, and should come early April, is letting Twitch and YouTube personalities get their hands on the game, but don't allow them to include anything at all about the storyline when they do their "first looks" etc. This also lets them prefilm / edit the start of a campaign playthrough and start posting it as soon as the game releases. This is good for initial sales as well. This day and age, a lot of people make or don't make purchases based on real gameplay videos on YouTube/Twitch.

I dunno, in the age of YouTube and social media, it’s all too easy for developers to get a bad rep. Getting a good reputation is hard, keeping it is harder but it’s damn easy to get a bad reputation. This is all conjecture and just opinions... I’m not even around in April, work and holiday, so a release in May certainly benefits me more... that said, it has been delayed/pushed back already so it in my opinion wouldn’t look good for it to be delayed again.

I’m saying IMO to forestall any sarcastic remarks about being an expert. It’s getting so you can’t even have an opinion without some kind of retort...
 
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I’m saying IMO to forestall any sarcastic remarks about being an expert. It’s getting so you can’t even have an opinion without some kind of retort...

Please don`t get me wrong, but in my book opinions get the response they deserve more often than never. And if it is sarcasm, then it is maybe time to ask oneself where it comes from. Maybe that guy is right and I really don`t know anything about marketing and all this doom and gloom is a bit over the top.

I appreciate that you and many others are so enthusiastic about this, which justifies the conclusion that the hype is real. But can we not just keep calm and enjoy what we get? We had two of three parts of the video. The Streams begin. And someday (maybe April, maybe May) we will get a hopefully great stompy Mech experience.

And if we want to be critical (which is a good thing), then let`s focus on the game content and not on that we don`t know when the release date is getting announced.
 

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Anyone want to take bets that they'll give an actual date today? Then it would be one month exactly from today.
 

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Anyone want to take bets that they'll give an actual date today? Then it would be one month exactly from today.
HBS has no record of making official updates on a weekend. It hasn't happened that I remember in the last 2.5 years that we've been following this project, and remember that we already have 48 official Kickstarter updates. It won't be before Monday (though I'd be happy to be wrong).
 

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I admit it... I must have hit “refresh” for the BATTLETECH Kickstarter Updates page a dozen or more times yesterday. :)

I’ll not be being repeating that today or tomorrow.

But come 0900 Pacific Time on Monday, I’ll most likely have a tab open to BATTLETECH’s Kickstarter Update page once again.