The New SMEP for HoI2

[Atruejedi]

Greetings all,

Making SMEP compatible with 1.3 is a tedious task, but I began it tonight with a little bit of success. So far I've ported over about a fifth or so of the events.

Incase you didn't know, SMEP was lucky enough to have many of its features included in 1.3! However, we have continued working on more and tweaked the already complete events, so we will be overwriting most of our work found in 1.3.

I say it'll be released in December sometime. Until then, have fun with 1.3 or feel free to keep playing SMEP on 1.2.

Jamison Geibel
Proud Contributer to 1.3

 

[Atruejedi]

Alright, I lied.

DOWNLOAD THE NEW SMEP 3.5e
Released 4:47 PM on November 14, 2005
FOR 1.3​

There may be bugs, but I think I've destroyed most. Good luck!

 

[unmerged(41349)]

argh, thankyou so much....i just found it really difficult to play hoi2 without smep....its become a large portion of the game for me. Thanks a whole bunch..now i get to try out 1.3 for what it really is! :rofl:

 

[Gen.Schuermann]

Alright, I lied.

DOWNLOAD THE NEW SMEP 3.5e
Released 4:47 PM on November 14, 2005
FOR 1.3​

There may be bugs, but I think I've destroyed most. Good luck!

you are THE MAN!

 

[unmerged(28876)]

Finally, it seems like years of waiting.

 

[thevaliant]

Excellent news. I do have a few questions before I get to play it tonight please?

1. Did you know that some events from SMEP would be included in 1.3? Did you get any credit?
2. Are you going to update the 'first' post in this thread with a changelog at all please?

Thank you for this.

 

[Atruejedi]

Excellent news. I do have a few questions before I get to play it tonight please?

1. Did you know that some events from SMEP would be included in 1.3? Did you get any credit?
2. Are you going to update the 'first' post in this thread with a changelog at all please?

Thank you for this.

1. I was not sure, but it was a welcome, if baffling surprise. And yes, if you check the 1.3 download thread, SMEP is credited However, some of the events are not the most current and bug-proof. So, download SMEP for 1.3 right away!

2. Eventually. There are so many features now it's hard to keep track of them

Have fun! Spread the word!

 

[unmerged(11202)]

Thanks for the new release, I needed to go give Civ4 a break.

I launched a vanilla game with Germany and kept my profile low expecting not to go to war until Danzig. Surprisingly the Poles refused to join the Allies and at Danzig they folded to my demands. With Germany now having a land corridor to the Baltic I decided I could make some good use of the Poles. I improved relations with them and they joined the Axis in January 1940. Since I was at peace I launched Barbarossa in Summer 1940 and I did not have to worry about the Allies yet. With combined German, Polish and Hungarian armies I slightly more divisions to command than the Soviets. Barbarossa went quite well and the last of the 5 main objectives was secured in August 1941.
Now the problem that occurs is that the Bitter Peace won't fire in this case:

event = {
	id = 2645
	random = no
	country = SOV

	trigger = {
		war = { country = GER country = SOV }
[B]		OR = {
			control = { province = 56 data = GER } # Paris is not free
			control = { province = 56 data = VIC } # Paris is not free
		}[/B]
		random = 35
		NOT = {
				control = { province = 187 data = SOV } # Leningrad has fallen
				control = { province = 163 data = SOV } # Stalingrad has fallen
				control = { province = 175 data = SOV } # Moscow has fallen
				control = { province = 1907 data = SOV } # Baku has fallen
				OR = {
					control = { province = 1572 data = SOV } # Sverdlovsk has fallen
					control = { province = 1372 data = SOV } # Vladivostok has fallen
				}
				war = { country = GER country = JAP }
			}
		OR = { 
				alliance = { country = GER country = JAP }
        			war = { country = SOV country = JAP }
			}

	}

As can be seen in the trigger conditions it specifies that either Germany or Vichy has to control Paris. Since I am not at war with the Allies I have not taken Paris. This leads to rather annoying situation that I have to take the entire USSR, which gives a lot more difficulty now with the new Partisan settings. Anyway my reasoning is that if Germany would not be at war with the allies and has not taken France either they have only a one front war against the Soviets. With no help from the Allies and facing the entire combined German army the Soviets would stand far less chance of succeeding and the Bitter Peace should fire than as well. The solution I propose would be the following:

event = {
	id = 2645
	random = no
	country = SOV

	trigger = {
		war = { country = GER country = SOV }
		OR = {
				[B]NOT = {
					war = { country = GER country = ENG }
					war = { country = GER country = FRA }
					war = { country = GER country = USA }
				}[/B]
			control = { province = 56 data = GER } # Paris is not free
			control = { province = 56 data = VIC } # Paris is not free
		}
		random = 35
		NOT = {
				control = { province = 187 data = SOV } # Leningrad has fallen
				control = { province = 163 data = SOV } # Stalingrad has fallen
				control = { province = 175 data = SOV } # Moscow has fallen
				control = { province = 1907 data = SOV } # Baku has fallen
				OR = {
					control = { province = 1572 data = SOV } # Sverdlovsk has fallen
					control = { province = 1372 data = SOV } # Vladivostok has fallen
				}
				war = { country = GER country = JAP }
			}
		OR = { 
				alliance = { country = GER country = JAP }
        			war = { country = SOV country = JAP }
			}

	}

Adding the OR condition that Germany is not at war with the Allies to the Germany or Vichy controls Paris requirement should solve this problem with the Bitter Peace triggers, events 2624 and 2645, I think those are it.
Any thoughts on this?

 

[Gen.Schuermann]

Thanks for the new release, I needed to go give Civ4 a break.

I launched a vanilla game with Germany and kept my profile low expecting not to go to war until Danzig. Surprisingly the Poles refused to join the Allies and at Danzig they folded to my demands. With Germany now having a land corridor to the Baltic I decided I could make some good use of the Poles. I improved relations with them and they joined the Axis in January 1940. Since I was at peace I launched Barbarossa in Summer 1940 and I did not have to worry about the Allies yet. With combined German, Polish and Hungarian armies I slightly more divisions to command than the Soviets. Barbarossa went quite well and the last of the 5 main objectives was secured in August 1941.
Now the problem that occurs is that the Bitter Peace won't fire in this case.

Adding the OR condition that Germany is not at war with the Allies to the Germany or Vichy controls Paris requirement should solve this problem with the Bitter Peace triggers, events 2624 and 2645, I think those are it.
Any thoughts on this?

Nice game you played there. how did you get poland to join the axis anyway? i never get other powers to join the axis if they have different politics then my country... did you wait so long and did you influence that much so that the politics are finally similar to each other?
If so, plz tell me what kind of foreign minister i need to have strange alliances.

 

[unmerged(11202)]

Nice game you played there. how did you get poland to join the axis anyway? i never get other powers to join the axis if they have different politics then my country... did you wait so long and did you influence that much so that the politics are finally similar to each other?
If so, plz tell me what kind of foreign minister i need to have strange alliances.

I influenced them to +200, which takes a while after Danzig. But Germany you can get nearly every Paternal Autocrat country to join the Axis as long as you manage to get +200 relations I think. As for ministers I just kept Neurath, I think.
It may be possible that the Poles only joined since they refused to join the Allies and that perhaps why I succeeded. I never tried to influence them and get them in the Axis before this was just a coincidence. The Polish AI has only a 2% chance of declining to join the Allies in '39, however if they are not part of the Allies there is 40% chance that they will yield at Danzig. That is what happened in my game.
One thing I would like to know, does the SMEP include events in which Poland gets a part of Russia if they fight on Germany's side and win? Poland does have cores on the USSR and I suppose giving up Danzig and the corridor in exchange for a large swath of Russia woud not be a bad trade.
One thing that interests me is what would happen if Germany had allied with Poland against the Soviets, I suppose in IRL with Hitler in charge this would have been impossible. But gamewise Poland makes an ideal ally for Germany. They have about 70 divisions on normal and their positions makes them the ideal partner for Barbarossa.

 

[Afalsejedi]

Maybe it has something to do with Poland being in the Axis. Are they capturing Russian land instead of the Germans?

 

[unmerged(11202)]

Maybe it has something to do with Poland being in the Axis. Are they capturing Russian land instead of the Germans?

I think I do not understand this, for the triggers it does not matter who controls the Soviet Union's provinces as long as the USSR does NOT control them. Also I made my main thrust through my own territories in the Baltics and split off southwards once I got far enough, I did this to ensure that Poland would not get control of the USSR's provinces.

 

[Atruejedi]

I think I do not understand this, for the triggers it does not matter who controls the Soviet Union's provinces as long as the USSR does NOT control them. Also I made my main thrust through my own territories in the Baltics and split off southwards once I got far enough, I did this to ensure that Poland would not get control of the USSR's provinces.

It is specified that USSR NOT control these provinces because minors (like Finland) could take some of the keypoints (like Leningrad). Japan or Germany could also take Sverdlovsk, potentially.

Nonetheless I have tweaked the Bitter Peace conditions for Germany vs. USSR (Japan not at war with USSR) so that Paris is only required to be owned by Vichy or Germany if at war with France.

 

[Da Swede]

May i suggest that you change the pic of the Swedish king, Gustav V to this;

 

[Gen.Schuermann]

One thing I would like to know, does the SMEP include events in which Poland gets a part of Russia if they fight on Germany's side and win? Poland does have cores on the USSR and I suppose giving up Danzig and the corridor in exchange for a large swath of Russia woud not be a bad trade.
One thing that interests me is what would happen if Germany had allied with Poland against the Soviets, I suppose in IRL with Hitler in charge this would have been impossible. But gamewise Poland makes an ideal ally for Germany. They have about 70 divisions on normal and their positions makes them the ideal partner for Barbarossa.

hmm, i don't think that this is anywhere near historical, so i doubt that the SMEP guys would include this, but since you have some skills in scripting, why don't you do it yourself? i already included you changes in my SMEP

 

[unmerged(26270)]

Originally Posted by Alkar
One thing I would like to know, does the SMEP include events in which Poland gets a part of Russia if they fight on Germany's side and win? Poland does have cores on the USSR and I suppose giving up Danzig and the corridor in exchange for a large swath of Russia woud not be a bad trade.
One thing that interests me is what would happen if Germany had allied with Poland against the Soviets, I suppose in IRL with Hitler in charge this would have been impossible. But gamewise Poland makes an ideal ally for Germany. They have about 70 divisions on normal and their positions makes them the ideal partner for Barbarossa.

hmm, i don't think that this is anywhere near historical, so i doubt that the SMEP guys would include this, but since you have some skills in scripting, why don't you do it yourself? i already included you changes in my SMEP

Oh that is very historical. Hitler tried very hard to bring Poland into Anti-Comintern Pact alongside with Japanese(who were allied with Poland before WW2-against USSR)
http://www.ibiblio.org/pha/fyb/part_4.html
M. COULONDRE, French Ambassador in Berlin,
to M. GEORGES BONNET, Minister for Foreign Affairs.
Berlin, May 7, 1939.
From the so called "French Yellow Book"

I have gathered, from a very reliable source, information which allows me to assert that, by way of compensation and in order to draw Poland into their game, the National-Socialist leaders have hinted in their conversations with the Poles at the possibility of sharing in a partition of the Russian Ukraine.

In the same connection the Polish Military Attaché, when he received one of my collaborators yesterday, gave some significant indications on the great plans which even recently the leaders of the Third Reich had been hammering out, and in the realization of which they had hoped, until March 26, to enlist Polish complicity.

It is said that when Chancellor Hitler received M. Beck in Berchtesgaden, he had spread out before him a map of Europe corrected in his own hand. On this map Danzig and the Corridor were again attached to the Reich; as to Poland, she was to annex Lithuania and receive the port of Memel. (The interview of Berchtesgaden took place on January 5.) M. Beck is reported to have been astounded at this sight.

They were several attempts like this, but Poland refused, assuming that Hitler would in time simply puppet Poland by controling its economy and supplies.However from what I know his rough idea included invading USSR alongside Japan and Poland which he believed would make USSR face 600 divisions.Those attempts included lifting economic sanctions on Poland, pro-Polish propaganda in media, and sending diplomats alongside with pressure to make Poland join Anti-Comintern Pact.

 

[unmerged(11202)]

It is specified that USSR NOT control these provinces because minors (like Finland) could take some of the keypoints (like Leningrad). Japan or Germany could also take Sverdlovsk, potentially.

Ok I understand it.

Nonetheless I have tweaked the Bitter Peace conditions for Germany vs. USSR (Japan not at war with USSR) so that Paris is only required to be owned by Vichy or Germany if at war with France.

Thanks that should help out.

hmm, i don't think that this is anywhere near historical, so i doubt that the SMEP guys would include this, but since you have some skills in scripting, why don't you do it yourself? i already included you changes in my SMEP

I shall it try to script those events for Poland.

Oh that is very historical. Hitler tried very hard to bring Poland into Anti-Comintern Pact alongside with Japanese(who were allied with Poland before WW2-against USSR)
http://www.ibiblio.org/pha/fyb/part_4.html
M. COULONDRE, French Ambassador in Berlin,
to M. GEORGES BONNET, Minister for Foreign Affairs.
Berlin, May 7, 1939.
From the so called "French Yellow Book"


They were several attempts like this, but Poland refused, assuming that Hitler would in time simply puppet Poland by controling its economy and supplies.However from what I know his rough idea included invading USSR alongside Japan and Poland which he believed would make USSR face 600 divisions.Those attempts included lifting economic sanctions on Poland, pro-Polish propaganda in media, and sending diplomats alongside with pressure to make Poland join Anti-Comintern Pact.

This sounds very interesting indeed. I wonder if it the following could happen then. Let's say if Poland does not join the Allies because either the UK or Poland refuses. Should this give Germany the opportunity to get Poland to join the Axis? I think it could start off with an event where that would happen or if it possible to have such an event triggered when having extremely good relations with Poland of +175. The Danzig event does not happen in this case, but Poland would then secede those provinces once Barbarossa starts giving Germany land access to the USSR.

 

[Atruejedi]

New version is out. Redownload it. Now Germany will declare war on Russia, albeit late, if they sucked during the Balkan Campaign (which they usually do, not my fault ). Iraq coup tweaked, Yugoslavia and Greece events tweaked, Syria and Lebanon now exist and end up getting eaten up by Britain eventually. Report any bugs here, this really needs tested

 

[Enravota]

nice work on the new 1.3 SMEPs i have a few remarks about the Bulgaria switches sides event:

1) kimon georgiev was prime minister (head of gov) after the 9.9 coup, georgi dimitrov was head of the regency
2) Bulgaria looses its claim on Southern Dobrudja, which means that it will get partisans there. i do not think the claim should be lost (though the Craiova agreement events (claiming Southern Dobrudja, from Romania) should be slept).
3) i think a check whether Romania was USSR spanked should be added. The Red army on the Dunabe was important condition for the 9.9 commie "coup" in Bulgaria.

 

[unmerged(11202)]

Oh that is very historical. Hitler tried very hard to bring Poland into Anti-Comintern Pact alongside with Japanese(who were allied with Poland before WW2-against USSR)
http://www.ibiblio.org/pha/fyb/part_4.html
M. COULONDRE, French Ambassador in Berlin,
to M. GEORGES BONNET, Minister for Foreign Affairs.
Berlin, May 7, 1939.
From the so called "French Yellow Book"


They were several attempts like this, but Poland refused, assuming that Hitler would in time simply puppet Poland by controling its economy and supplies.However from what I know his rough idea included invading USSR alongside Japan and Poland which he believed would make USSR face 600 divisions.Those attempts included lifting economic sanctions on Poland, pro-Polish propaganda in media, and sending diplomats alongside with pressure to make Poland join Anti-Comintern Pact.

I have been busy today, but managed to script something that might be worthwhile. It consists of a few events where Poland can choose to join the Axis if they are either Fascist or if they failed to get into the Allies. If the trigger conditions happen there is only a 50% chance that the Polish AI will actually offer a proposal for an alliance. Also if Poland is allied with Germany the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact will be put to sleep for obvious reasons. I have included a followup event where Poland will give Danzig to Germany as soon as war with the Soviets breaks out. I think this would be the best option since Germany needs land access to east for supply reasons. I do not know if it should include the corridor as well. Germany wished to own those provinces, but I suppose they would only get them if the Soviet Union would be beaten and Poland gets a large chunk of territory in the East.

###############################################################
#	 Hearts of Iron 2  German-Polish Alliance
#
#	 		Written by Alkar
###############################################################

event = {
	id = 800600
	country = POL
	random = no

	trigger = {
		exists = GER
		OR = {
			event = 3403 # Poland declines proposal
			event = 3603 # UK didn't propose alliance at all
			government = fascist # In case Germany manages to change Poland's government
		}
		NOT = {
			alliance = { country = POL country = ENG }
			alliance = { country = POL country = SOV }
			OR = {
				alliance = { country = GER country = POL }
				war = { country = GER country = POL }
				puppet = { country = POL country = GER }
				ispuppet = GER
			}
		}
	}

	name = "Poland considers an alliance with Germany"
	desc = "During 1938 and '39 Germany sought to form an agreement with Poland as a possible ally against the Soviet Union, however German diplomatic actions gained almost no result. Germany's insistence on getting the free city of Danzig and a corridor through Poland proved to be major obstacles and would ultimately lead to the outbreak of war. On the other hand there were some of Poland's military leaders who might be more suspectible to forming some kind of agreement."	
	style = 0
	picture = "Danzig"	

	date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1936 }
	offset = 3 # Check for trigger conditions every three days
	deathdate = { day = 22 month = august year = 1939 }

	action_a = {
		name = "Seek an agreement with Germany"
		ai_chance = 50
		command = { type = domestic which = interventionism value = 1 }
		command = { type = trigger which = 800601 }
		}
	action_b = {
		name = "No agreement with the Germans!"
		ai_chance = 50
		command = { type = domestic which = political_left value = 1 }
		command = { type = relation which = GER value = -10 }
		}
}

event = {
	id = 800601
	country = GER
	
	name = "Germany offers Poland an alliance."
	desc = "During 1938 and '39 Germany sought to form an agreement with Poland as a possible ally against the Soviet Union, however German diplomatic actions gained almost no result. Germany's insistence on getting the free city of Danzig and a corridor through Poland proved to be major obstacles and would ultimately lead to the outbreak of war. On the other hand there were some of Poland's military leaders who might be more suspectible to forming some kind of agreement."
	style = 0
	picture = "Danzig"

	action_a = {
		name = "Propose an alliance to Poland"
		ai_chance = 50
		command = { type = trigger which = 800602 }
		command = { type = dissent value = 2 }
		command = { type = relation which = FRA value = -10 }
		command = { type = relation which = ENG value = -10 }
		command = { type = relation which = SOV value = -10 }
		}
	action_b = {
		name = "Decline Polish overtures"
		ai_chance = 50
		command = { type = relation which = POL value = -10 }
		}
}

event = {
	id = 800602
	country = POL

	name = "Germany offers Poland an alliance."
	desc = "During 1938 and '39 Germany sought to form an agreement with Poland as a possible ally against the Soviet Union, however German diplomatic actions gained almost no result. Germany's insistence on getting the free city of Danzig and a corridor through Poland proved to be major obstacles and would ultimately lead to the outbreak of war. On the other hand there were some of Poland's military leaders who might be more suspectible to forming some kind of agreement."
	style = 0
	picture = "Danzig"
	
	action_a = {
		name = "Germany proposes an alliance"
		command = { type = alliance which = GER }
		command = { type = domestic which = political_left value = -2 } #A shift to the right for Poland would be in order then
		command = { type = domestic which = democratic value = -2 }
		command = { type = domestic which = freedom value = -2 }
		command = { type = dissent value = 5 }
		command = { type = alliance which = GER }
		command = { type = relation which = GER value = 10 }
		command = { type = relation which = FRA value = -10 }
		command = { type = relation which = ENG value = -10 }
		command = { type = relation which = SOV value = -10 }
		command = { type = sleepevent which = 2050 } # The Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact
		}
}

event = {
	id = 800603
	country = POL
	random = no
	
	trigger = {
		alliance = { country = GER country = POL }
		war = { country = POL country = SOV }
		war = { country = GER country = SOV }
	}

	date = { day = 1 month = january year = 1936 }
	offset = 1
	deathdate = { day = 30 month = december year = 1947 }

	name = "Danzig to Germany"
	desc = "When war with the Soviet Union broke out, Poland granted Germany access through their territory and seceeded the city of Danzig to facilitate easier supplies for German troops in Eastern Prussia and the Baltic. In exchange for giving back former German lands the Poles would receive territories in the east and Memel once the Soviet Union would be defeated."
	style = 0
	picture = "Danzig"

	action_a = {
		name = "Give Danzig back to Germany"
		command = { type = secedeprovince which = GER value = 303 }
		command = { type = relation which = GER value = 5 }
		command = { type = trigger which = 800604 }
		}
}

event = {
	id = 800604
	country = GER
	
	name = "Danzig to Germany"
	desc = "When war with the Soviet Union broke out, Poland granted Germany access through their territory and seceeded the city of Danzig to facilitate easier supplies for German troops in Eastern Prussia and the Baltic. In exchange for giving back former German lands the Poles would receive territories in the east and Memel once the Soviet Union would be defeated."
	style = 0
	picture = "Poles_fold"
	
	action_a = {
		name = "OK" # Excellent!
		command = { type = dissent value = -5 }
		command = { type = relation which = POL value = 5 }
		command = { type = belligerence which = GER value = 1 }
		command = { type = manpowerpool value = 30 }
		command = { type = addcore which = 303 }
	}
}

Note on the events, I believe I got the errors out of them and the game launches without reporting errors, which is a good thing imho considering my scripting skills o . I fired the events with the F12 console command and they appear to work.

New version is out. Redownload it. Now Germany will declare war on Russia, albeit late, if they sucked during the Balkan Campaign (which they usually do, not my fault ). Iraq coup tweaked, Yugoslavia and Greece events tweaked, Syria and Lebanon now exist and end up getting eaten up by Britain eventually. Report any bugs here, this really needs tested

Thanks, I do not know if the following is a bug or not. I launched my vanilla Germany savegame allied with Poland and loaded up just before the Bitter Peace event sequence. Those events seemed to have fired correctly and Germany got everything west of the Urals. However some of the partitioning of the former Soviet lands do not seem to have fired. Finland got Eastern Karelia, but not Leningrad, I should mention that Finland was not my ally due to the Winter War not taking place and I do not know if that perhaps has to deal with it? Romania got Bessarabia back and some extra provinces beyond that, so that appears to be in order. Hungary apparently got nothing out of the Bitter peace and neither did Poland. As a matter of fact when the negotiations for the Bitter Peace started Poland not only seceeded the few Soviet territories they held, but also all of Eastern Poland and they never got any provinces back. I waited for a month for anything to happen but nothing did . Now Poland is only left with a small rump state.
I have tried looking through the event files looking for the relevant events, but it is rather difficult since they appear to be spreaded throughout several country's event files. I wonder if it is possible to put them in seperate files in a new release if is not too much effort please . I generally like through browse through events to know in advance what kind of decisions I have to make and to avoid nasty surprises.