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So this only adds events? If so, it's the perfect mod for me. HSR bugs me, because it messes with too much. I just want events!
Sorry if this has been already been brought up before. I had a rather fun game with the UK on Normal difficulty with the last SMEP version. I liberated Europe in early 1944 while the Germans were still slugging it out with the Soviets and neither side was gaining much. Anyway by late May early June some events fired were the Germans negotiated for surrender with the Soviets, something that did not make much sense at all. As can be seen in the screenshots below, Germany was still holding onto Moscow and had been holding off the Soviets quite succesfully in the Eastern Ukraine untill just before the end.
Before the surrender of Germany:
After the surrender of Germany:
My main gripe is about the rather silly postwar division as you can see I had taken all off Germany and Poland, yet they still became Soviet puppets
. I hope the surrender events for Germany and vicotory for the Allies get reworked.
Before the surrender of Germany:
After the surrender of Germany:
My main gripe is about the rather silly postwar division as you can see I had taken all off Germany and Poland, yet they still became Soviet puppets
. I hope the surrender events for Germany and vicotory for the Allies get reworked.Historically Japan surrendered right after USSR declared war and began the invasion, because they knew they couldn't continue the war without resources from those regions.
The fact that the Russian armor/armored infantry armies backed up by paratrooper divisions (dropped behind the lines) tore through the million man Japanese army in Manchuria like it was made out of paper mache might have had something to do with the Japanese decision to surrender.
The next step would have been a Russian invasion of Korea and then an all out invasion of the home islands by the Russian army, one thrust coming from the bottom of south korea and the other thrust coming from the northern islands. Since Stalin didn't care about casualties, the Japanese plan to use civilians to inflict "unacceptable" losses vs the Americans would not have worked against the Russians. The Russians had experience in amphibious operations in their amphibious landings against the Rumanians in '44.
This is what brought the Japanese to the surrender table. The shock at having their vaunted army in Manchuria kicked aside in two days like it was the campfire girls.
The fact that the Russian armor/armored infantry armies backed up by paratrooper divisions (dropped behind the lines) tore through the million man Japanese army in Manchuria like it was made out of paper mache might have had something to do with the Japanese decision to surrender.
The next step would have been a Russian invasion of Korea and then an all out invasion of the home islands by the Russian army, one thrust coming from the bottom of south korea and the other thrust coming from the northern islands. Since Stalin didn't care about casualties, the Japanese plan to use civilians to inflict "unacceptable" losses vs the Americans would not have worked against the Russians. The Russians had experience in amphibious operations in their amphibious landings against the Rumanians in '44.
This is what brought the Japanese to the surrender table. The shock at having their vaunted army in Manchuria kicked aside in two days like it was the campfire girls.
Atruejedi said:
nonono... germany was defeated, and after germany was annexed, scandinavia declared it's independence... cool, huh? i can send u the savegame, i think i saved it!
Alkar said:Sorry if this has been already been brought up before. I had a rather fun game with the UK on Normal difficulty with the last SMEP version. I liberated Europe in early 1944 while the Germans were still slugging it out with the Soviets and neither side was gaining much. Anyway by late May early June some events fired were the Germans negotiated for surrender with the Soviets, something that did not make much sense at all. As can be seen in the screenshots below, Germany was still holding onto Moscow and had been holding off the Soviets quite succesfully in the Eastern Ukraine untill just before the end.
Before the surrender of Germany:
After the surrender of Germany:
My main gripe is about the rather silly postwar division as you can see I had taken all off Germany and Poland, yet they still became Soviet puppets
Do you realize how complex this event is? You're welcome to offer your services; I am only one man!
Look at it this way: it's better than the vanilla event, yes? :wacko:
Gen.Schuermann said:
I'm baffled. UK annexes Germany, then liberates the Federal Republic. So I have no idea how Scandinavia was created! I'm going to call this... an anomoly, not a bug.
AdaptationOT said:
I disagree. The events say "Let's move the industry to Siberia," so that's exactly what I did. It does not say anything about "Let's magically build new factories overnight for no cost"
-Samuel- said:
Yes. It only adds events. You could have found this out if you only read the entire thread
Atruejedi said:Yes. It only adds events. You could have found this out if you only read the entire thread
Why work, when you can make others work for you. Downloading this now..
Atruejedi said:I don't see it happening. Sure, Finns live between Scandinavia and European Russia... but I don't know what I'd call this area. And I wouldn't call Finns Scandinavians... or at least if they are, they're different from Swedes/Norwegians/Danes. It's that crazy language related to the Magyar language
So. While I find it fine for Scandinavia to join the Winter War, I don't see them owning Finland after the Bitter Peace... if they're in the Axis, that is. Hitler wouldn't like a too strong a northern ally.
How they got Finland is irrelevant, maybe Scandinavia conquers it after the winter war when they are weak.
The point I was trying to make, is that like all other axis allies, why wouldn't Scandinavia be rewarded for going to war against Germany? There would be no point in of being an axis ally if they gain absolutly nothing from a war with the Soviets!
Scandinavia existing and going to war with the axis is ahistorical, yes, but that means we would possibly need an ahistorical event dealing with such a big ally of Germany! In fact, besides Italy and Japan, they'd be their strongest ally, and easily more valuable considering their proximity to the Soviet heartlands.
on the Finland question, i think it could be part of Scandinavia. After all it was part of Sweden for a long time, there s a significant Swedish minority even now and are culturaly closer to Scandinavians than anyone else (except maybe Estonia, but since there was recent desire in Estonia to change the name of the country to Estland and change the flag with a new one with a nordic cross design it actually helps my case ). So if SCA somehow aquires it should get cores there and have a chance to get some swag from the USSR after the war.
). So if SCA somehow aquires it should get cores there and have a chance to get some swag from the USSR after the war.
Enravota said:on the Finland question, i think it could be part of Scandinavia. After all it was part of Sweden for a long time, there s a significant Swedish minority even now and are culturaly closer to Scandinavians than anyone else (except maybe Estonia, but since there was recent desire in Estonia to change the name of the country to Estland and change the flag with a new one with a nordic cross design it actually helps my case
i have been here for some time now, but still can't figure out what 'cores' are... can you help me please
Gen.Schuermann said:i have been here for some time now, but still can't figure out what 'cores' are... can you help me please
"core provinces", meaning national provinces, where you get full industry, manpower etc.
I'm just writing this to inform you of a little bug, im not sure if it can be fixed. Basically i was playing as britain in 1936. I reinforced the french border along germany and belgium. I also managed to put a few divisions in poland. Then after getting very close to berlin with my troops the new surrender event for germany fired where poland gets east prussia, and france gets a bit more territory. After playing for a bit longer, I noticed Germany still had all her territorial claims, and they demanded austria who in turn accepted. After this I was curious as to playing germany in this situation. So i stopped and loaded as Germany to see what i could do. Using cheats just to fool around i demanded territory from france, czechoslovkia and poland. After this i declared war on denmark, annexed them. Then i declared war on switzerland, annexed them. I then proceeded to declare war on beligum and the netherlends to get their surrender events. I think the allies did not declare war on me again because they had peace treaties and did not want to break them. This seems a tad unhistorical and I dont know if their is a way to really fix it, i just found it interesting. Thanks for your time
Atruejedi said:I'm baffled. UK annexes Germany, then liberates the Federal Republic. So I have no idea how Scandinavia was created! I'm going to call this... an anomoly, not a bug.
the thing is... Germany annexes sweden (it annexed norway before) right before it got defeated by the allies and the soviets. the surrender event fires, and old europe is restored, complete with france, italy, poland and so on and so forth. somehow, germany stays under british rule (it was annexed), but soon after released (maximum a week after), to be the Bundesrepublik Deutschland (BRD). The DDR (German Democratic Republic) was created as well. Now you see, norway and sweden (before the partition of germany) declare their independence, as if they were full under partisan control, but as one single country, scandinavia. maybe you might want to add an event, with a 50/50 chance of getting scandinavia OR sweden and norway.
did i make it clear, now?
Liet said:
you were playing as the BRD, then? i wonder if the soviet union declares war around 1942 and so on - this might be a very interesting scenario...wouldn't it be cool if germany joins the allies and fights the soviet union? just like in command and conquer red alert... man that was a game...
i'd love to see events for this to happen!!! i might try this out tonight, but i still have europe mod 0.6 to check out...
offtopic, you jedi dudes, are you brothers somehow, friends or one and the same person? just curios.. ^^