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Playing A-H, i chickened out of the sleswig war with denmark because earlier on I saw that denmark was allied with Russia. And at that time i had taken little care in my military and had been focusing on the economy. a loss of 50 prestige hurt.

Well a few years down the road, the Crimean War comes up. I had improved my military drastically. And since Russia was in a war with Ottoman empire, France, S-P and friends(Allied with ottomans), why can't i join in on the fun, wrestle with the russian bear. A russian bear who, with the entry of Great Britian into the fray, had 2 arms tied behind his back.

So i pull the two armies stationed in italy, one of 7 div. and the other of 5 to the russian border. I also have another army of 5 div in venetia, just in case the issue over italy comes up (forgot when that is supposed to happen, after the crimean war i guess) I use my army in hungary of 5 div.and and army in siebenburgen of 5 div to start the assault to keep the 8 or 9 scattered russian divs. on my border distracted.

As i began to form a war plan, i thought that any provinces I take is just going to make for a longer border to defend. I didn't want that, so i looked at St. Petersburg. Quite a ways away, I wasn't sure I would be able to make it before the russians got done with the ottomans, yet i decided to go for it. Initially I had planned on waiting for my 7 div army from italy before i began a major offensive, but since time was of the essence for me, I began my army of hungary with 5 divs marching towards St. Petersburg, using my Siebenburgen army following 1-2 provinces behind it to keep it from being cut off.

When my armies from Italy arrived, I used them to distract the larger russian armies that were forming (35000 was the largest i saw, and they were defending St. Petersburg. Of course good 'ol GB were using Sestavpol as their staging area for the invasion of great Russia). I kept my Hungarian Army marching and occupying, and my siebenburgen army fighting off the russian troops that would cut off my advancing army from supply.

A year and a half later from when I started the great march, I ended up in the province bordering St. Petersburg. my 50,000 strong army had whittled down to 28,000. There was an army of 35,000 garrisoned in St. Petersburg, so i risked getting cut off and pulling my army of Siebenburgen up to join with my hungarian army and assaulted St. Petersburg. By the time the siebenburgen army had joined up with the Hungarian Army, they were already cut off, I had to use my 7 div army from italy who was busy occupying Russian poland to clear a line of supply back to them and by that time, The russians had made peace with the ottomans and allies. So I assaulted St. Petersburg with a line of supply hoping that my army of Italy would clear the way quickly enough.

My army of Italy cleared a supply line just as my Hungarian/Siebenburgen combined army made it to St. Petersburg and began fighting. A small russian offensive on my southern border netted them 2 provinces, but it was no matter, After over 2 years of fighting, and a long and exhausting march through russia over 2 winters(i know winter isn't factored in-game) I took St. Petersburg. My Army of Hungary was at 18,000 and my army of siebenburgen was at 22,000. I ended up grabbing war indemnities and had to march my hun/sieb army back home through peaceful, but unfriendly territory (lost about another 5,000 on the march home. But when they reached Vienna, much celebrating and toasting was done in their honor(I had a beer) and they were offered a well deserved rest(i took a nap).

Anyways, same thing has probably happened to you, but it was just fun for me.
Those war indemninites from russia has made me rich. who needs territories when you can just fund your reforms through war! ha ha.

anyways, sorry this is so long, just thought I'd share it.
 

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Haha, sounds like you found a good use for the Russian Bear: make him dance and steal all the quarters he makes.

Sounds like Memnon using the WI he got from Russia in his Egpyt game (there's an AAR up) to fund colonization of Africa.

I wonder if anyone has any xp with WI from GB...those would be...mouthwatering...mmmm. :)
 

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Only vodka in Winter Palace...lots of vodka for our Austrian friends!
 

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What is all that concern about a "supply line? This isn't EU2 ya know... You don't need a supply line as it doesn't give you an advantage. You still are going to suffer attriction at the same rate. As long as you don't get completely surrounded (that means no escape province) there is no advantage of keeping the provinces behing occupied, unless you like to role play or somehting :cool:
 

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Yeah, I often try to make two armies make the mad dash to the capital, one flanking the other, so the second works both as a diversion and as a place to which to retreat if the advance stalls.
 
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Yeah, I often try to make two armies make the mad dash to the capital, one flanking the other, so the second works both as a diversion and as a place to which to retreat if the advance stalls.


Yea. I learned that the hard way in one game as Itaty. Took a 200,00 strong army right into vienna. forgot to have an escape route, got beat, and BAM, lost 'em all. sad, sad, sad.
 

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Memnon did that to me in india, 'cept I lost 500k :eek:

Only native though, and they'd all came from the state he gotin the peace treaty :)
 

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Kind of. I played Australia one time in the WWI scenario and was kicking Ottoman butt when (as usual) the war ended before 1914 did. So, my army and navy's there...I decided to build a Middle Eastern Empire, which I did. After annexing Abu Dhabi and Oman I decided to go for Persia, which was stuck in a terrible internal warfare with rebels.

However, I entered a terrible prolonged war. I had three divisions, and I found it was hard to take Persia using them seperately to take one province at a time, so I combined them together and headed for the capital, not trying to claim provinces along the way. I finally got there and took it, and repulsed several attempts by the Persian army (and one attempt by rebel forces) to take city. However....the Persians refused to do any thing. And so I began to move from province to province, fighting off attacks and having to reinforce my corps every time I took ground. Eventually I made it back to British-controlled Indian lands.

I haven't checked the losses for that thing, but man it must have been enormous for the Persians. That place was a mess - over 70% in rebel hands, normal Persian armies running around trying to regain order. The capital was taken by rebels at least two times...the Australian invasion only complicated matters. Come to think of it, that might have made an interesting AAR :rofl:
 

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IMO the Russia ai should be tweaked so that it protects St.Peterburg a little better. As is, it is fairly easy to bring the bear to its knees.
 

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There should be something in the code that forced the AI to at least station some forces defending the capital. Sometimes when i'm hard pressed in a war i just make a blitzkrieg breakthrough for their capital and force them to surrender. I would not be that easy if they had at least an entrinched division or two to stop me while the rest of their troops recover position.

But the AI is done to fight trench wars, as it will always try to form a border line and trench if it is playing defense (usually if you have more military power).
 

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Not only the Russian but all AIs.

The UK AI seems content on keep all enemies out of Wales. I keep seeing them pour 600,000 troops into that small region alone! :eek:
 

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Darkrenown said:
Have I mention that VIP 0.3 comes with all new AIs? :)

Let me guess...the default AI's? :rofl:

Back at the TGW forum for HoI I showed every one a screenshot of a game I played where the UK landed a large amount of forces in nothern Germany, whereas in HoI we rarely (until recent patches and mods) saw the AI commit any landings bigger than three divisions. When I asked them what AI they used, they said they just used the default AI instead of the UK AI :rofl:
 

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Henry v. Keiper said:
Let me guess...the default AI's? :rofl:

No, I mean all new AIs. Each major nation has 2 - 4 AIs which switch about depending on the time period and the country's situation. There are also smaller AI modules which can be added to whatever AI is already inplace, for example, the high tech AI to make nations build the high tech factories when the become available.
 

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No, I mean all new AIs. Each major nation has 2 - 4 AIs which switch about depending on the time period and the country's situation. There are also smaller AI modules which can be added to whatever AI is already inplace, for example, the high tech AI to make nations build the high tech factories when the become available.
How do the AI modules work? Can you just replace the "target = { ... }" section in the AI, for example? Or only the garrison priorities?