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Avernite

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Hmm, everyone but me?

No idea what it means, though it has the sound of her wishing he'd do something he does with everyone else but not with her, and she'd love him to do it for once.

Maybe being nice or something? ;)

Did I allready join/start the Richildis fanclub btw? If not, I do so now :D
 

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I think Tildis knows very well that a very different man lies below the bluster and I think she has tender feelings for that man and knows that if Jocvelyn can accept his own deficiencies and ask for help, he cvan be as great a man as he would care to be. He is flawed, and she knows it, he is the product of a severely limited view of the noble eductation, but he is a decent man, mostly. I think she knows, and is willing to accept what he is, and is also willing, for both thier peace of mind, to help him accept an improve himself.

Btw, sometimes giving characters their heads makes for the most interesting tales.

Keep it up! And thanks!
 

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I agree with Coz. I think she is thinking that Joc will try hard to ensure everyone is comfortable and taken care of except her.
 

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Eleanor came awake to a hand shaking her shoulder. She blinked, trying to clear the gritty feeling from her eyes and, on realising she wasn’t in her own room, remember where she was.

Wrapped in her cloak, lying on Fulk’s bed, waiting for him to return. The door to her own room was open so a soundless retreat was possible in the event it might be needful. The door out onto the landing and stairway had been bolted, Hawise taking on the task of receptionist in the event of someone arriving; she could answer the door and delay while Eleanor fled, or, as now, could vanish outside when the stray knight turned up. The arrangement worked only because Fulk was not present.

She sat up, but not to make any room for him. “Where on earth have you been? I must have been here for hours.”

“Not even two hours. Matins has not rung yet. You’re exhausted, I think.”

“And a fine answer that is,” Eleanor replied around a yawn. With one hand she swept her hair back out of her eyes; it was loose and the way she had been lying had not done much to improve its orderliness.

“In case of future need I shall note this observation down somewhere safe: let sleeping princesses lie; they’re tetchy if awakened.”

“You are entirely uncooperative.”

“I think the same could generally be said of you. It must be catching.” His line of sight shifted downwards, away from her face to her bare feet sticking out of the bottom of shift and cloak. “Why are you here? And aren’t your feet cold?”

“None of your business.”

Fulk laughed. “There is a princess in my room, sat on my bed, scowling at me, and she tells me it’s none of my business! Oh endless source of delight, sometimes you truly are a strange creature.” Fulk sat down on top of his clothing chest, knees apart and arms braced untidily across the tops of his thighs. “I was sat playing guard in the outside doorway, gazing at the moon and slowly freezing to death.”

“Mea culpa. I am … unpractised at … certain things. And I forget things. Which I should not …” Goodwill and guilt only go so far, as does a desire for peace. A good deal more certainly Eleanor said, “But I was right – I am not helped by a rogue knight.” The next bit proved a good deal harder, so she only managed a mumble, “But I really should not let my fear for you affect me like that.”

“Dear, dear, my gooseberry is subscribing to more correct noble wisdom! I wonder …” Fulk sprang – if the movement of a tired, wounded man could be called that – to his feet, and placed an icy hand on her forehead. “No, no fever.”

Eleanor batted his hand away. “You are obnoxiously cheerful.”

“Better than the alternative.”

“I was actually speaking about losing my temper because of worry. As to that wisdom, for once it is not rubbish. If you are busy worrying about what will happen if you die or are wounded-”

“I’ll be a damned sight more careful. Beloved, I’ve fought with nothing but visions of glory with nary a thought to the mere possibility of anything less than great and heroic victory.” Fulk paused. His mouth twisted into a bitter line. “That’s how I killed my father and destroyed what was my life.” Fulk sat back on his makeshift chair with a heavy thump. “But if it hadn’t been for that I wouldn’t be here now, and I find it impossible to wish I’d never met you. Well, I suppose there are times …” Abruptly he grinned at her, stilling the fluttering of newly born panic. “But even then there’s no honesty to it.”

“Wrong wisdom, crooknose. Close, but wrong. But then you are a man; I doubt I should enlighten you further.” That would defeat almost the entire point. Men should be worried enough to temper exuberance into caution, but never so worried that they became paralysed, cowardly, or otherwise unmanly or apt to die. The difficulty came in putting this – and other closely related wisdom – into use. Thanks to her upbringing she had very little by way of example to follow … but there in murky memory was a figure with an indistinct face, and some rare words: “Men need their confidence, but not too much of it; either extreme is dangerous. If you show doubt in their prowess then they too may begin to doubt, and that too is dangerous. So you send them off with smiles or teasing or whatever else suits.” Presumably her mother had gone on to do just that, but there the memory grew fuzzier still, to the point where Eleanor couldn’t remember if she had seen any more or not.

Fulk dug out the little silver crucifix he wore on a thong about his neck and held it in full sight to ward off malevolence. “And it is so that Woman has manifold mysteries, all to be kept from Man, for else their arcane evil would be disarmed, and thus their manipulation and perversion of God’s order would be at an end.”

Eleanor applauded him, careful, though, not to make sufficient noise for it to carry outside the room. “Oh very good! You missed your calling in life.”

“I’m too pleasant to be a rabid priest.” Fulk’s hand fell to the hilt of his sword even as the cheerful mask fell from his face. His fingers fondled the simple hilt of the weapon, bringing to mind the unwanted thought of who had given it him and how he must have touched her in the same way, this long lost Maude of his. “Your brother is giving me a new sword,” he said. “My choice, to suit my build and tastes. A mace too. He’s banishing my debt to the exchequer. A small castle, one taken from Trempwick’s holdings. He told me as he passed me, on his way to you. It’s going to be formally announced tomorrow.” Fulk’s hold on his sword stilled, tightened, then went slack, his hand dropping to the wooden surface of the chest. “I want none of it. It’s all meaningless. Pointless.”

“You are rising-”

“But not enough,” he interrupted softly. “Never enough.” Fulk looked at her, eyes narrowing a little. “What did he want with you? Hawise said as she let me in that now wasn’t the time for another argument.”

“That maid is entirely too happy meddling,” growled Eleanor.

“Oh most wondrous blossom, I know you like her, in part because she meddles, pesters, organises and is sensible at you, useful too, and all in that quiet way of hers. A more normal maid would likely end as a target for those hairpins of yours.”

Eleanor declared with utmost regalness, “Humph.”

“But this says nothing about that brother of yours.”

“I have been given to Sir Miles. He is my new master.” ‘Master’ had something of a sarcastic ring to it, which was both unexpected and unregretted. “Except I shall never call him that.”

“Eleanor, the trouble that might cause! It’s only politeness; it means nothing unless you want it to, and-”

“Might as well ask me to call him ‘Father’ …” Eleanor hugged her cloak about herself, the heavy wool pressing on her back uncomfortably.

He absorbed that, and perhaps understood it, for when he spoke again he said, “Somehow I doubt that is all Hawise meant. We’re not like to argue over Miles.”

“You do not need to know the rest.” If one wanted to restore harmony to one’s relationship with a broken-nosed knight one quite simply did not tell him that you had been involved in a rather unpleasant fight with your brother over said knight and his clashing with said brother’s bodyguard. She had been left with no choice – and wouldn’t dream of doing otherwise – but to defend Fulk entirely, placing vociferous blame for the entire incident on Hugh’s bodyguard. The outcome had all been highly predictable, and could be summed up simply as “Ouch!”. Hugh was a complete hypocrite, and one day Eleanor fervently hoped she could cram that fact down his throat, preferably while riding away from him on a very fast horse.

“No, I suppose not.” His words were terse, harsh, and all the idle relaxation went from his body.

“Fulk, it is boring, a waste of time speaking of, time which could be better spent-”

He held up a hand, forestalling her. “No, don’t bother. I’m just a lowly knight-”

“And an idiot!” This time she didn’t mean it in one of the kinder ways. “I have never seen you so – so determined to make yourself miserable over something so unimportant.”

“Unimportant? If I were an earl or a prince-”

“Unimportant,” Eleanor said again. She let her grip on her cloak relax, finally relieving some of the pressure on her bruises, though she acted only because keeping warm no longer mattered. “If you become an earl now it is still not enough. If you were born one you would have been entirely different, and none of this would have come to pass. You are what you are, and I like you for that.”

“I am what I am.” Fulk sagged back against the wall and ran a hand over his face. “I’ve been saying that all my life, insisting I’m proud of it too.” Pause. “I don’t think I’ve ever really meant it.”

Her heart bleeding for him, Eleanor stood and moved to stand awkwardly at his side, unsure of what to do next.

Fulk pulled her so she sat on his knee, settling her so the entire length of her body rested against his, not even a finger’s breadth standing on its own. “I’m cold,” he said by way of almost guilty-sounding explanation. After a bit he said, “If the man is all that’s left …”

“Then you stand greater than my brother, or any.”

He shook his head, his hair tickling her face. “Do you really think so?”

“Yes!” Eleanor kissed the hollow just below his ear. “Circumstances are not easy, but many could not survive it as you do.” He didn’t say anything. “There is …” Eleanor’s thought was formed but not in words, and it was the translation to something which could be shared that proved difficult. “There is ... no bravery in … in taking the easier ways. Or … or anything good in it. If you … if you were to do something to prove you are brave …” She stopped, thinking. “If you were to challenge my brother, yes, it would be said you were acting like a man, defending what was yours, protecting your own honour, guarding me. But then I would lose you. You would probably die. It is cowardly. Selfish. And because of that very … unmanly. You would leave me alone to suffer, suffer more because of what you had done, while your own suffering was at an end. The same can be said of much else. Perhaps everything else, in this. You are taking the harder path, which makes you far better than the many who would not.”

Eleanor felt a trace of damp on her temple; she sat back a little to see. A solitary tear, lost onto her skin, the glistening track on his own flesh the only sign of its birth.

He kissed her, so softly, their lips hardly touching. After a few moments Eleanor forgot even the very mild awareness she’d had of poor Hawise, sat out in the corridor, cold, bored, and as tired as the rest of them. Her thoughts had steadily narrowed down to nothing but Fulk; now the process was complete.

Several minutes, hours, days – who could tell? – later they stopped and sat, simply looking at each other, nothing more, faces close enough that their noses were almost touching. He was not saying something, she could tell. So, too, could she tell what; she was finding he had a certain way of looking at her sometimes: tender, peaceful, enraptured. He too had forgotten anything else.

Suddenly very nervous it was hard to speak. But she must, or … “I will not refuse you again.”

“That’s not exactly wise.” For one horrible moment she thought he was going to tip her off onto the floor. The next she feared he would crush her, because he tightened his hold.

“I am too young to be wise.”

“Aren’t we all?” he sighed. Eleanor studied him in consternation, until he kissed her eyelids. “I’m only a man ...”

Eleanor felt herself go a deep crimson; her seat had becoming increasingly unsettling because of that fact. “I had noticed.”

Fulk pressed his lips together, the corner of his mouth tilting upwards, his eyebrows drawn down into a passable attempt at a glower that sat firmly at odds with the rest. “You are terrible. But I love you anyway.”

From the burning sensation her blush was only getting worse. “Yes. Well. Um … It is your fault,” she rallied. “Everything. Always.”

“So eloquent, my love.”

That she didn’t reply to, but only because he had decided to kiss her again.

Fulk drew a very deep breath. “Let me love you. I will do you no harm.”

“Er …” She was not going to ask what in hell any of that meant!

“No one will know. You will still be a virgin. I’m not asking for anything dishonourable either. Any sin will be mine, so you won’t have that to worry about, and I can confess it without casting even a hint of suspicion in your direction-”

Unable to stand hearing more Eleanor interrupted, “Um …” The unfortunate thing about deciding something was that eventually you had to follow through, and it was getting harder to imagine saying anything the more she heard. Big brave princess, and all that; she gathered her nerve. “Um … less talking helps,” she managed to mumble. “Or so I am led to believe.”

Fulk placed one hand on her neck, his thumb stroking the outline of her jaw. “I do love you.”

“Um, all things considered I should really hope so. Yes.” Eleanor gave him a wobbly smile as she remembered to add, “I love you too. When you are not being annoying.” She was rewarded with a decidedly soppy grin. Her mind no longer drowning in romance a few important details occurred to her. “Um, we should let Hawise in. It will look strange, if anyone comes upstairs. And she must be cold and tired herself. And … er-”

“Peace. I’ll sort it out.”

Fulk carried her through into her room and set her down on the bed, then disappeared off to deal with Hawise.

Eleanor threw off her cloak and burrowed down into the bed, trying to create a warm patch for herself and wondering how she could ever look her maid in the eye again.

She heard rather than saw Fulk’s return, the covers being drawn so far up they covered most of her face too.

“I might agree with you on that maid of yours,” he said as he bolted the door. “She went straight to my bed, sat down, and told me to go away so she could get undressed.”

Undressed. Oh, damn! Eleanor poked her head out of the top of the blankets just enough to see Fulk, then ducked back down because he was beginning to remove his own clothes. First she would try to keep her shift and underclothes on. If that failed then she would have to hope he didn’t really look. In the event of that too proving to be a vain hope she could only pray he couldn’t tell the difference between yesterday’s bruises and today’s, and wouldn’t be too revolted.

Fulk slid into bed next to her and gathered her to him, but not before he tossed something he had been holding down on top of the covers out of her sight. Noticing that she was shivering he said, “If you’ve changed your mind …”

Eleanor muttered something about being cold to avoid answering that.

Fulk rubbed her back, his fingers brushing over her so lightly it didn’t trouble the sore flesh. His lips lingered on hers, then the top of her neck, the lobes of her ears. He claimed her mouth again, hands still gently exploring her body.

It was enjoyable enough that Eleanor began to relax. She began to copy him, feeling clumsy, seeing with some detached part of her mind how her own efforts revealed his to be so practised. That rather hurt in some indefinable way; she stopped touching him and threw her uppermost arm about his waist, the lower one already drawn up out of the way with the hand resting just below her chin, useless because of the way they lay face to face, his lower arm and her own bodyweight penning her left arm in.

He moved to kiss her again, checked and looked away. “I don’t want to pass on my frustration to you. Or do something daft.”

“Er …?”

“Well it’s true. I’m hardly proud of it.” He looked back at her, not quite meeting her gaze and face tinged ever so slightly pink. “I’ve never actually done this before. Not this way. Same idea. Few differences. Important differences. And I really do care, but at the same time it seems rather inconsiderate to try and arouse you when I know I’m going to leave you er, hanging. But it’s about as bad to just ignore you. Not to mention less fun for me. But then too much fun and I’m afraid I’ll go a bit barmy.”

Eleanor digested that. “Oh.”

“I suppose really I shouldn’t take the risk, and be as considerate as I can in something so one-sided.”

“Ah.”

“I always wanted everything to be perfect.” He sighed, kissed her briefly, then admitted, “Perfect doesn’t include ‘brilliant’ ideas like this. So please don’t judge based on this. The real thing really is very different, and far better.”

“Hmm …” By now Eleanor was positive about two things: that she was blushing badly even by her own standards, and that she sounded like she had been dropped on her head at birth.

She became aware of a very anxious pair of brown eyes now meeting her own. “You do understand?”

“Er … Yes,” Eleanor lied valiantly.

“And you don’t mind?”

“Er … I suppose I shall survive.”

“I love you.”

Before she could tell him that she recalled him saying that a few times before, Fulk kissed her again, more demanding then he’d been all night but still tender.

He ran a hand up her leg, gathering her shift and pushing it up. Once the material reached her waist he seemed to lose interest, much to her relief, and returned to running his hands over her body, the light touch setting her skin tingling.

Eleanor took matters into her own hands and kissed him again. He made a rather interesting noise much like a groan, gently pushed her onto her back and climbed to loom over her on all fours, and all without breaking the kiss, which was, she supposed in a back corner of her mind, fairly impressive.

He prised gently at her thighs with one hand. Eleanor resisted a moment, then gave up. Whatever she was expecting it wasn’t what happened next: he slid his shaft between her thighs, pushed them shut on it with his own legs, then began to move. At which point a few unpleasant jokes she had been unable to escape hearing and equally unable to forget made a deal more sense, especially that one about the archer who always aimed too low.

Fulk nibbled at her lower lip, persuading her to forget such musings. Eleanor was only too happy to oblige, and in the spirit of things she threw her arms around his neck and clung on, returning his kisses.

His motions steadily grew more frantic until he spasmed, sobbed her name into her head and collapsed into a heap.

At a loss for anything else to do but feeling something was definitely needed, Eleanor delicately extricated one hand from under his bulk and – cautiously - patted him on the head.

Fulk began to laugh, the tremors of his body passed on to her own.

Until the end he had been doing a good job of supporting his own weight so their bodies touched but his did not rest entirely on hers; finding it hard to breathe Eleanor pushed at his shoulder. Fulk obligingly rolled off onto his back with all the grace of a dead donkey. He lay catching his breath for a bit.

He didn’t give himself long before he sat up and grabbed the mysterious object he’d carried in earlier; it proved to be a towel. He mopped rather shamefacedly at the sticky mess on her thighs. “Sorry.”

Staring at the mess, Eleanor shuddered. While acquainted with certain basics, warm slime had been unanticipated; the little she had heard had indicted something more like water. Which would be preferable. Sensitive to the way he stopped dabbing, Eleanor covered her reaction by saying, “Now I think I understand that joke about better out than in. Ugh. And to think I had considered it one of the more harmless jokes at my father’s wedding.”

“Beloved, there are a few hundred such jokes, and they broadly fall into several categories, including one also pertinent to the moment: better in than out. That one’s not about seed. Better out than in is, so you’re right there, but then there’s a line which goes opposite to that too.”

She moved her elbows so she lay flat again, wishing he would hurry up and finish; lying with her shift hitched up about her hips was not dignified and now that whatever you might want to call what had just taken place was finished she felt stupid like this. The bed beneath her was damp as well. “I do not think I wanted to know that.”

Fulk finished his mopping and began to struggle his way out of the massive bed. Eleanor snatched her clothes back into some semblance of order, bolted upright, and asked, “Where are you going?” Surely he wouldn’t just leave?

He held up the towel. “I don’t fancy sleeping curled up with this.” Fulk dumped it on the chair and shot back into bed at her side.

Eleanor settled against the curve of his body, pillowing her head on his shoulder and trying not to think too much, profoundly glad he was holding her still and trying to be content in that alone. There was but one thing she needed to think on, and that was the fact they were married. That one thought made the others nothing. It did.

Fulk’s hand stilled on the neck of her neck, no longer toying with her hair. “I’m sorry. I should not have used you like that.”

“Used.”

Fulk raised her chin with one finger and looked her in the eye, steady though his eyelids drooped. “I didn’t mean it so, never so. I meant you deserved better.” He chuckled, kissed her quickly, and said, “I’ll have you know half my brain just went wandering, so I’m not my usual articulate self. It’ll come back … sometime.”

“You hope,” suggested Eleanor impishly.








:Anyone with eyes will notice that the frog is blushing quite badly, worse than Nell, even!: Urk! :froggy just about manages a mortified mumble, to explain: I spent a few days trying to find a way to avoid writing the :cough: detail :cough of that, all unsuccessfully. While being sworn at by Jocelyn, for refusing his extra scene for all kinds of valid reasons like pacing. Never written anything like that before, either. Not really. When you think about it. Generally speaking. Actually. But either I was less detailed, at which point it looked like something else had happened, or I recapped it in retrospect, which meant exactly the same thing, when all was said and done, except it was being talked about, not done, and sort of felt all blergh like that. :goes florescent red: I mean, more blergh than it is already. I have the feeling it is not the least bit romantic, but then given the material it’s hardly set up to be a great and wonderful love scene anyway. Humph; I suppose I need practice at writing such things, for those times when I have to, although heaven knows I don’t want to.

:froggy sidles away, with the nasty feeling that everyone is now looking at her oddly or staring, thinking thoughts she would rather not about frogs who write such things: Don’t blame me – blame them! :she points at the duo: It was their fault, not mine! :froggy notices Nell is pointing at Fulk and protesting that it was him, entirely, and really nothing much to do with her:

Though I must admit to laughing quite a bit at a few lines in that! I made the mistake of sipping my tea as I proofread it, choked, and nearly ruined my keyboard. It was the pat on the head which did it. I also admit to getting all teared up, in one short place. And pitying poor Fulk, even as I wonder whether I like what he did or not, and also wonder if he’s suitably believable, being as this female froggy is going entirely on what Fulk says, with a dose of hearsay, rumour, and a smidgeon of observation to help.

Got to say I’m really very interested as to what people make of this, both in writing and in what happens. Like I’ve said many times already, never written anything like this before, not really …

:froggy goes to hide under a rock somewhere … with a large pile of books to read. And a light – lights are nice when reading books while hiding under a rock. Otherwise it’s a bit dark.:



One big miscellaneous thank you for the variety of thoughts on Jocelyn/Richildis. :looks like a smugly pleased frog: Hehe, not bad for a line which took me all of 20 seconds to write and no thought at all.

It's in part thanks to these responses that I felt able to skip the Jocelyn scene - it would say nothing that is not already there and, more importantly, *seen* to be there. Adding the scene would only have slowed the tale down, and with this Nell/Fulk scene it would have felt very one-themed, repetitive, dull, and the (at least my own) response on finding the Nell/Fulk scene immediately afterwards would have been "Not more mush!" I also feel it will be far, far better handled in the before and retrospect, not the during. It was also not a scene of the type I need Jocelyn for; he's done enough with what is already here and planned for inclusion. In short, including it would have been very damaging.

On giving characters their heads: I do it very often. Indeed, the entire Nell/Fulk romance comes from doing just that, and thus the entire story which springs from it. Originally I wanted them to be friends, no more, off on spytastic adventures like at the beginning of the story. I presume that you will have noticed that as soon as they got on screen together they started to spark, so badly that my carpet was nearly set on fire.

But sometimes it is not the right thing to do. Sometimes what feels important to a character is not actually important, or does not need to be shown. Sometimes the deviations to the plot, where such are prompted by character demands, are not good.

Fanclubs: There is no Richildis fanclub as of yet. So ….

Fanclub updates:
Fanclub updates:
Trempy: 3 members (fuming)
Anne: 2 members
Fulk: 5 members (sleeping like the dead, but only snoring a very little bit)
Nell: 6 members (also asleep, looking as angelic as only a sleeping gooseberry can)
Godit: 5 members (also fuming)
Constance: 2 members
Hugh: 2 members (disgusted!)
Jocelyn: 5 members (worrying about the safety of the women in his family, and sharpening his dagger ready for any necessary castrations)
Richildis: 1 member (rolling her eyes at her husband … safely behind his back)
Miles: 2 members
Hawise: 2 members (thinking that Fulk’s bed is far comfier than her pallet on the floor)
Mahaut: 1 member
Anti-Trempy: 3 members
Anti-Aveline: 1 member
Anti-Hugh: 1 member
 
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OH MY! :eek:

Has eggy turned into Henry Miller? ;) No, I kid. It was very artfully written to convey exactly what was happening without resorting to forward or base terms. Well done.

I suppose I understand why Fulk went through with it - there is only so much a man can take, I suppose, without resorting to looking elsewhere for satisfaction. But there are also ways to...deal with that need...if need be, without resorting to something potentially unworthy of a princess, especially Nell. But they are married and married people do all sorts of things that they and only they can explain.

It also provides an interesting side by side view of two couples when this post is placed next to the last few from Jocy and Richildis (and perhaps what comes next with them.)
 

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Well written. But is it medeaval? I mean, people then thought so very religiously - and it is a great sin to drop seed "on the earth"... But, of course, I may be childish - royal people do not think as others.

And to Fulk: What a pig you are! You are old enough, experienced enough, coming from France - and obviously not knowing that kisses (although long and repeated) are not enough for a woman! There should be caressing, too! Explore her body! Give her something - a clitoris stimulation might be even better than a vaginal one, especially to a virgin.
 
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I kind of understand why you were blushing, yes ;)

I just get the idea that the whole thing doesn't really fit in the story, or at least partway through you got a bit detached from the normal storytelling. Supposedly because, since you never did write such a scene before, it obviously never was in the story at all. Great logic, that :wacko:

Anyway: less mush, more talking scheming and plotting! ;)
 

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Since everyone is commenting on it, good Fulk/Nell scene, it is well-written, realistic, well-timed, ..

That was the sugar, now the medecine. The phrase ' he banished my debt ' doesn't sit well with me. As far as I know ' to banish ' is ' to exile someone, to send someone away '. Mind you, english is not my first language, I 'm just saying how it feels to me.

Anyways, herewith I join the Fulk fanclub, simply because he is ' to nice to kill ' as we say here. Also I figure he will win, being teamed up with the leading lady and all .. Nice to back a winner just once. Hey, all the characters realistic, each one earned admiration, I feel for them all. But Fulk gets my vote, he's just too fair to win without a hairpin-wielding spymaster's apprentice in his corner.
 

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A hand closed on Eleanor’s shoulder; the pressure on a few particularly raw bruises both recalled her attention and made her wince.

“I said,” Hugh repeated patiently, “that your manner is subdued today.” His eyes narrowed as he removed his hand. “Or perhaps I am mistaken, and you are only sulking.”

“Or thinking.”

“Then I would find it obligatory as to enquire what about, to have such a marked effect on your demeanour.” Hugh linked his hands at the small of his back. “Penitential thoughts of a change of ways, I might hope?”

Eleanor continued to meet his gaze, unspeaking. If he knew what she had done … She repressed a shudder, sick to the pit of her stomach at the thought of what would happen.

At last she turned away, chin tucked in. “Leave me alone, Hugh. I am sore, tired, and heartsick, and in no mood to be baited.”

“I do not bait. That would be unworthy. Indeed, it seems to me that you attempt to bait me.” If he was expecting some kind of contrition at that, or denial, or anything else then he was sorely disappointed. “I find,” he said when it became more than plain she would not speak, “I must now enquire as to what makes you heartsick. I see nothing to cause you hurt, though much should, and that it does not is a mark of your woeful lack of duty or familial feeling. Therefore, this being so unknown to me, I cannot offer the slightest assistance.”

Eleanor lifted her head to give her brother a flat stare. “I shall not even dignify that with a response.”

“Quite impossible.” Hugh strode away to stand at his own window again, looking down at the view of the training grounds it offered. “Still, I should doubtless expect no different than for my offer to be flung back in my face.”

“It is the stupid question I fling back, nothing more. There is plenty of reason and I am immune to none of it, though my vulnerabilities may be different to yours.”

“Such disrespect-”

Eleanor stopped paying attention; perhaps with some good fortune his rant would keep him entertained for a while, leaving her free. Fulk had sat with his back to her, shoulders curved inwards a trifle, half dressed. His words she remembered perfectly. “I won’t bother you like this again. I’ve disgraced myself enough.” Pause, then as an afterthought, “Disgraced with my selfishness, I mean.”

Oh dear Jesù, as if she needed more complications and worries. If he had disgraced himself, then what precisely did that say of her? And to be abandoned so quickly - that said much, and none of it complimentary. Anyway, she had only done as he told her, as she should, so honour was intact and if there was any fault it was his. Which was not comforting. What would he do now? Probably much as she’d thought before. Not that she could really say whether she was disappointed or not that the experience wouldn’t be repeated; while there had been definite good things other parts had been rather … um. Yes. Maybe very.

Hugh slapped her across the mouth; the blow stung but she thought it did no damage that would last past a few minutes. He said, “I will not be ignored. This is the second time. You will reflect on your manners. It is not fitting for one such as you.”

One side of Eleanor’s mouth twisted upwards. “Quite true, brother dear. No matter how poets ramble on to the contrary that last is quite true.”

Hugh scowled, deepening the shallow creases that were slowly beginning to permanently mark his skin. “You make no sense. No poet has ever numbered rudeness or like vices amongst the virtues fit for one in your place.”

“No, I would think not.”

“Rather patience, meekness,” that one he stressed even more than the others, “charity, piety, obedience,” again emphasised, “nobility, humbleness-”

“And a certain knowledge of one’s own worth,” Eleanor added. “Well, that I can claim, if none of the others.” She knew the value of what she had given … or thrown away, as some would have it. Not quite the value of her maidenhead, but still a good portion of the almost obscene horde of wealth and gains she could bring. Not, she reassured herself, that she cared about such things anyway, and not that anyone would ever know to be in a position to be outraged and decry her as … well, not quite a whore, as there was generally considered to be a trace of honour in such restrained dealings … so far as there could ever be any honour in something so disreputable. But she was married to the man in question, damn it!

Fed up with herself, and knowing she needed to do something about her brother, Eleanor pointed at the view from her own window. “Anyway, why did you bring me here, place me in front of this window and demand I wait?”

“You will see,” he snapped. With that he turned back to his own window and stared out with such concentration he stopped blinking.

After a while she did see. Hugh might not have summoned her here to watch Fulk but there was no point in wasting her time further than had already been the case.

As Fulk took to the field and began to limber up the few spectators braving the drizzle subtly shifted so a significant proportion of the women were now watching him. As Eleanor scowled in their direction a couple more scurried out to join the little throng of gossiping ninnys. All very well for some, having nothing better to do and the freedom that came with being unimportant. It should not be allowed!

Fulk worked his way through a variety of twists, stretches, and exercises designed to keep honed his muscles and sense of balance, armour glinting in the weak sunlight. He had thrown his entire being into the exercises that Eleanor knew he could complete flawlessly while chatting away on a variety of subjects with a princess, and this unnecessary absorption allowed him to steadfastly ignore his audience without being rude.

Absorbed with her watching, Eleanor started when Hugh spoke. “Now, here it is.”

‘It’ came in the form of another knight, armoured, his surcoat the colour of dark wine, two squires bobbing along in his wake bearing his great helm and his lance, and a few friends following at a looser distance. The coat of arms on the shield he bore was known to her: Sir William of Beverley.

Fulk didn’t let the other man’s hail interrupt his cartwheels; he answered as he went. What was said Eleanor didn’t know; the little antechamber on the second floor of the great keep afforded an excellent view but fine detail like the movement of lips was lost.

“I thought it might prove educational for you to see the ending of what you have wrought.”

Eleanor stilled her panic as best she could, turned to glance at her brother, and said calmly, “Pardon?”

“Your knight; you allowed him to damage my own guard’s honour. Therefore it is now necessary to allow things to be … settled. Before the poison can worsen and dispute become hatred and covert war. I saw fit to confine matters to blunted weapons.”

Bastard! And he had brought her here to watch.

Eleanor looked back to find Fulk was now standing, engaged in heated debate with the other knight and his entourage. Sir William chopped a hand through the air, shouting something. Fulk only folded his arms; if he replied his words were far calmer. Sir William spun away to where Fulk’s shield waited, propped against his lance and great helm. A well-placed kick sent the shield tumbling face first into the mud, defacing and befouling the coat of arms. Then he spat on the shield.

Eleanor gasped at the magnitude of the insult.

Fulk’s hand dropped to his sword and began to draw. No more than a few inches of steel must have cleared the scabbard when he let the weapon drop back. Words were said, not many, and then he was away, striding to where Sueta waited with the man at arms he had taken on as his new squire.

“He cannot hope to win,” commented Hugh. “Your knight. He is talented, but he spent overlong without a warhorse, and is thus less able then he aught to be in the true mode of knightly combat.”

The space used for tilting practice had been cleared and spectators had moved to get a better view of the action. Word was beginning to spread that more than the usual training was happening; new people were appearing on the grounds and in doorways and windows.

Fulk was ready: mounted, head covered entirely by his bucket-like great helm, lance at rest and shield levelled, waiting on his fidgeting destrier at one end of the run. There was nothing there that Eleanor saw which spoke of anything but comfortable confidence; she hoped he had grounds for it, and wasn’t just bluffing.

Hugh’s man took up his position at the other end of the run, and set his spurs to his stallion’s flanks going from walk to charge without stopping to see that his opponent was ready.

Fulk’s reaction was admirably fast. Not fast enough; they clashed before the centre point, Fulk having less time to build speed and momentum. His lance tagged Sir William’s shield and skittered off as the knight angled the surface to throw the blunt point. Sir William’s hit was solid; the sound of the impact carried all the way back to Eleanor, and Fulk reeled back in the saddle, his armoured back slamming into the narrow top of his high-backed cantle. Eleanor held her breath, thinking he would fall. Somehow he didn’t.

By the time he reached the end of the run he was settled again, slowing Sueta and resettling his lance and shield for another go. Instead of stopping and waiting for the other to also be ready to start the next run, Fulk turned and spurred back to the charge as soon as he reached the end of the grounds. Hugh’s honourless churl of a knight did likewise.

The thud of the dual impact carried again; both men hit their targets and both were flung back by the shock, but both managed to deflect the pressing force so they were not unhorsed. Fulk had done better than his first run, but it appeared Sir William’s aim had been truer than his.

Three runs; that was the usual. Eleanor stopped breathing as they turned and spurred back towards each other. She saw Fulk lower his lance and couch it firmly under his arm, stand in his stirrups, lean a little forward, tilt his shield to carry the enemy lance on out past his shoulder harmlessly. But for the clarity of that, she didn’t know how it came to be that his lance shattered and he rode away all but lying on his horse’s back, one foot kicking free while the other bore much of his weight and efforts to retain his seat. Sir William emerged as unshaken as the previous times.

Eleanor turned to her brother with a delighted laugh. “He won! He broke his lance where yours did not – he won.”

“This is not a tournament. The rules are different. Your knight lost. Any can clearly see he is not a match for his opponent. Even in a tournament such would hardly be an undisputed win, being simple luck.”

“How am I supposed to know about tournaments anyway,” Eleanor muttered, face flaming at her error. So much for the very little she knew of one of the nobility’s favourite obsessions. Trempwick deplored them as crudely violent affairs filled with muscle and not a jot of sense. “Never been to one. They change the rules all the time too, to suit the sponsor, so I could have been right.”

Back outside it appeared the same argument was taking place. Heatedly.

Unwilling to settle for such a clouded end, both men dismounted, drew their swords and moved to the middle of the ground. Eleanor didn’t know how Fulk had swung the advantage back his way, but she was grateful enough to send up a minor prayer of thanks. After the battering he had just received – and heaven forefend it had done fresh damage to his healing wounds! – he must need any and every advantage.

She had never seen Fulk fight before, not truly, as the times when he had put his all into battle she had also been busy. The graceful flow, one move going into another, and another, a never-ending dance, stances changing unpredictably to threaten his enemy in new ways and guard himself against the other man’s own threats, it was hypnotic. Then a pause, circling, waiting, probing, before he surged back into action again. In his hands it was an art. And he was so fast.

It was the tilting all in reverse; both combatants clearly skilled, but one able to dominate the other to such a degree he was left devoting himself to hanging on and not to winning.

After a while Eleanor began to feel stupid for ever having doubted he was in fit condition to prod someone else with a sword. You wouldn’t even know he was wounded, watching him now.

Fulk engaged Sir William in another exchange of blows and parries, moving at a blur and blocked at every attempt. Until he out-timed the other knight, hooked the cross guard of his sword on the rim of Sir William’s shield, yanked it aside and delivered a cut that, if done with edged weapons instead of wood, would have cut through coat of plates, mail, flesh, muscle and deep into the bone of the left shoulder. A slow killing blow. The three separate attacks were strung together so smoothly they appeared but one planned move arranged between the two men beforehand to the novice eye, not a gambit and two reactions to take advantage of successive weaknesses.

“Well,” beamed Eleanor, “I think there is no doubt that time. He won. Quite tidily, too.”

Hugh held his pose, staring out of the window. He lifted his hands free of the stonework of the window ledge with a small jerk, as if they rested in a sticky substance. “We should take warning from this. It was surely God’s judgement on Sir William for his unknightly conduct preceding and during the engagement, and in his quarrelsomeness in not accepting the first verdict and entering into a second round.”

Eleanor didn’t bother pointing out that almost every knight in the realm would have acted the same, doubtless including Hugh himself to the extent of wanting a clear and glorious victory. They were a silly bunch.






:rolls about on the floor, laughing her froggy socks off at the indignant, mortified Fulk, who is stalking up and down and shouting that really he knows all this helpful advice people are giving him, thank you very much, because he is not hopeless, useless, inexperienced, or just pointless, and really is actually very good, actually, and he was only working in the limitations of what he had and being considerate and about as honourable as circumstances allowed! Froggy also laughs at the bemused expression on the gooseberry’s face, just for good measure.:

I’m shocked! Fulk originally lost – there was no sword fight, just the three runs with the lances. Then he sort of snapped when he found what people were saying. He rolled up his sleeves, said, ”Right!” in that nastily meaningful way people have, and forced things to a course which suited him better so he could smack someone a wee bit hard and vent some frustration. All I could do was go and hide behind a solid object and hope this didn’t damage anything in the story.


:froggy dips her quill in a pot of ink and begins to write in her best handwriting.:
Dear assorted mob of characters who bother me endlessly.

I am writing to you in the hopes that I may be able to encourage you to cheer up. I would like it very much if you would all stop worrying, fretting, stressing, doubting yourselves and others, and generally being Right Depressing Pains. Also, please stop expecting horrible doom every other page. Cheer up! Stop whinging! Be happy! If those glum thoughts threaten again, sing a happy song!

Thank you.

Yours sincerely,
Froggy.

PS: I do not mean happy as in be mushy. Please stop that. It’s not fair on a frog. All these POVs, and all of them infested with mush, gah!


:froggy folds up the bit of parchment, puts her own special froggy seal on it, and sends it to the cast via her fastest messenger.: Not that it will do any good; they will ignore the frog and go their own sweet way as per usual, happy or sad. But it had to be said. Bah!


coz1: Fulk has been noted as, er, entertaining himself for a while. It was a single line thing some time ago, so I can't blame you if you forget. I am not sure if I pity him or want to laugh at his predicament - he has been living next to a gooseberry for a bit more than half a year, had a variety of women throw themselves at him during that time, and all he's admitted to doing is one visit to a brothel, some stay at home fun, and his assorted moments with Nell. Whereas his past was rather more active and he's only being so restrained now because of the awkward combination of loving a princess and despising substitutes, which would be the normal, expected way out. I do wonder if I should be sceptical at him for those days before he fell for Nell so completely, when he told me less. Unlike her I wouldn't worry about him now. But then I can see his POV and she can't :D

Scrooge: Yes, it was a sin. This is why Fulk says "Any sin will be mine, so you won’t have that to worry about, and I can confess it without casting even a hint of suspicion in your direction." But so were many other things, like killing, stealing, adultery, fornication, oath breaking, the use of contraception, vanity, wearing rich and extravagant clothes, taking part in a tournament, going against the Pope and church in any way ... The clergy was famous for having wives, mistresses and bastard children, and for eating, dressing and living very well. So really I'd be utterly amazed if they took any more notice of this relatively minor order than they did of the rest.

Fulk isn't French (I hear a certain reader saying "Damn right he isn't!" :p You know who you are :p). He only stayed in France for the 8 years between the death of his father and his meeting with Nell; he doesn't like sea travel and believed he had nothing to go back home to, except ignominy.

As for what else he might have done, er, humph. A lot of things considered normal today were viewed as disgusting, unnatural or worse back then. Er, now probably making myself look like some kind of perverted frog, I'll say that in all my reading of medieval sources and so on, and of books on the era (and believe me, it seems a lot of books now branch out into such subjects, which is admirable, really, because it breaks the old trend of focusing entirely on Big Events and Important People instead of life and other such things, and in the process bring out a whole load of primary evidence that has been shoved into a corner because it didn’t fit the old pattern) I've only encountered two medieval schools of thought on how to actually please a woman. One being the obvious, with all else being a part of or lead up to this. The other was in a medical text as advice for dealing with all the fainting fits and so on virgins and celibate women supposedly get. The direct quote sort of burned into my poor mind: The midwife should inset a finger covered in oil and move it vigorously about. :eek:o Humph, midwives and oil really shouldn’t be required in this case though :p Highly effective though that may be, it will almost certainly result in breaking or damaging the hymen, meaning no more proof of Trempy being a liar. That side effect was why it was right at the end of the list of redemies, after marriage, travel, and medicine, in that order.

Avernite: Any problems were most likely down to the fact that I really have no idea what I am doing with such scenes. Practice will cure that.

And indeed, less mush and angst and more something - anything - else! Will no one think of the poor frog writing this?

Rhialto: True, the dictionary does explain the word as just exile, drive away, etc, but I have heard it used in this way often enough. Whether that is a mistake or not I can't say. I do like the way it sounds when used in some combinations, like with Fulk's debt, and the meaning is clear enough. I shall wait in the hopes someone more knowledgeable can provide an answer as to what is going on with it.

Fulk is very grateful for your lone voice of support.
Fanclub updates:
Trempy: 3 members (asking in a very tired voice why the idiotic knight didn't just hire a few goons to hit Fulk with cudgels in a dark alley somewhere. To death.)
Anne: 2 members
Fulk: 6 members (Hail the conquering hero :pompom:)
Nell: 6 members (Now joint most popular. Frowning ever so slightly in an ever so elegant way. At least it is only Fulk, not someone else, like that Godit person)
Godit: 5 members
Constance: 2 members
Hugh: 2 members (secretly glad he is not a betting man)
Jocelyn: 5 members
Richildis: 1 member
Miles: 2 members
Hawise: 2 members
Mahaut: 1 member
Anti-Trempy: 3 members
Anti-Aveline: 1 member
Anti-Hugh: 1 member
 

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YES! Action!

If only there had been death, incredible suffering, and slow torture! :rofl:
 

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Well, it's interesting that you had initially decided Fulk would lose. The win speaks on a slight higher level to me if you look at the match as one between Hugh's side and Eleanor's. They do not...yet...but it does potentially foreshadow, or leads to it anyway.

And Hugh has become quite the prick (become? become?) recently. Things are no doubt weighing on him harder and harder as it goes, but if times were different, I would say he deserves a right good belting!
 

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Well, I have chosen an interesting time to begin reading this, and in a most peculiar manner, to boot!

I started at the bottom of page 34, read upwards (backwards), then picked up at the top of page 33 and read down (normally)... Which, I must say, may be the absolute best way to read these two pages!

It results in a good exposure to the general story at this point, starting and ending with a good deal of teasing and tantalizing!

I did have some difficulty -- I had to continuously repeat to myself, Richildis is a girl, Jocelyn is a guy... :confused:

The bedroom scene was very funny, and most ably written! Not very Machiavellian... ;) I do think you managed to achieve "cutely (not passionately) romantic", which I think is what you were trying for. But you especially achieved hilarious! Just like a guy to go off babbling when he's supposed to be quiet. And two completely different understandings of what's going on!

I loved your AARthorian explanations and excuses at the end, too.

As I've mentioned with praise elsewhere, your *MR* Newbie was part of my introduction to Victoria. But this is my first exposure to this tale.

Thank you! I'll be back.

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Hugh wet his lips with the tip of his tongue, endeavouring to be surreptitious in this faintly undignified behaviour. If she should see there was no telling how she would interpret it; he only knew it would not be to his liking. Fear, or some other such contemptible emotion. The simple fact of the matter was that delicate handling was required, and such was easiest done when in fit personal condition. Fearing his lips would split and crack if he attempted a smile or similar expression was less than constructive.

Hugh gestured at the map laid out on the council room’s table. “So you are aware of our position.” An unenviable one it was too: the Welsh border in flames and the west of England threatened, many significant holdings in rebel hands in the north and south-east, and across the seas a France that would strike when it saw he would do homage for his continental lands. Spread all over, in England and across the Narrow Sea, lords who had not personally done him homage or given him any token of loyalty, meaning they could break away or not as they desired, or simply wait and see who won before coming to join a side, without a hint of condemnation or leverage he could apply.

The situation, while difficult, was not impossible. Threatened on many sides he may be, he did have the advantage of being centralised, unlike his foes who were scattered here and there, unable to consolidate. A guard on certain fronts and a willingness to lose some in pursuit of a greater goal would delay his enemies while he took much of his force to crush one, then after that one another, and so on until at last he had driven them all before him in disarray and defeat. Some successes on his part would gather men to him, just as losses on his part would thrust them into the arms of his opponents. It would more than likely prove an expensive, exhaustive and lengthy struggle, and that in turn contributed to the unpleasantness of the situation.

The French lands were in the greatest peril – they would by necessity be left until he had stabilised the situation here sufficiently to send men and resources to support the local lords. However, hand in hand with this, those lords would be least prey to Trempwick’s slanders; last to hear, distant from those involved and so perhaps less likely to believe. Also, regardless of whom they chose to declare for, it was the King of France they would need to defend their lands from, unless they deserted to that kingdom. Thus there was a certain assurance of a good defence even from those who declared for his sister. The French boy king and his controllers were sufficiently unappealing that no great harm was likely to be done him by desertion, and, galling as it may be to admit it, there was a great appeal in a king who was distant and so less able to interfere. He, with his divided, sprawling lands, would be less concentrated than the King of France, based close by in the Ile de France.

The best he could do until such a time as having the resources to spare to cross the sea and assert himself and his rights was send orders and messages, doing all to win men to cooperation and a course of action he found favourable. He might perhaps spare one trusted man and a very small troop to serve as rally point and begin to organise, stiffening men’s backs for the inevitable fighting. To pull soldiers from France to here to bolster his army appealed, but seemed too dangerous to be permitted; it would drain the pool of those uncertain numbers there who would fight for him, leaving those lands more vulnerable. And if he were refused the aid he sought …

Eleanor nodded. “I was aware before; Miles told me.” There was an unspoken comment residing after that, Hugh could sense it, and he was certain it said, “I also worked much of this out for myself, as I am not an idiot and do have both eyes and ears.”

“I wished to be sure you knew,” Hugh said stiffly.

“Of yesterday I spent perhaps half an hour with you, and the rest of the day with Miles, being a good apprentice.”

“Then it shall not surprise you to learn I am sending an embassage to Scotland, to confirm our alliance and make it again in my own name. Thus it shall become binding once more.” To guard his northern border against a second, far larger threat merging with the one already there, and place pressure on the rebels in Northumberland.

She gave him a very flat look. “No, it does not surprise me.”

Hugh took a calming breath and tried to quash the irritation she – as so frequently the case - caused. “I am glad to see that you consider your new position with suitable gravity.”

Her reaction to this compliment was not pleasing; she acted as though it were another pronouncement, in need of no special notice or reply.

Refusing to be hurried by her, Hugh continued to elaborate as planned, caring little if she already knew or not. He had decided the best course previously; it would be done so. “To suit the occasion and import of the mission, this embassage must be made up most carefully. Anne, utilising her role as link between our houses, is the natural choice. However she is …” Hugh searched for a tactful way to say the necessary.

“Young, too young to be the lead. Also widowed, so less prestigious and much less tied to our own house.”

“Still,” Hugh said pointedly, desiring her to know her unwanted contribution for what it was, “she may be beneficial. She will do as a part. Another must take the main place, one closely associated with myself, trusted, able to forge and authorise a treaty which will last and assist me, and do so quickly.”

“Are you asking me to go to Scotland, brother dear?”

Hugh ground his teeth. “If, for once, you allowed me to speak in my own time and say what I will you may find out! I am out of patience – next time I shall silence you myself.”

She sighed gustily, and moved to sit in one of the room’s chairs, seating herself in such a manner that she plainly declared she expected to be there for a very long time. Placed as she was, she was safely out of his reach unless he cared to go to her and so clearly warn her of his intent. Eleanor flipped her braid back over her shoulder with one hand, crossed her ankles and settled down to listen, again subtly suggesting that the listening was liable to be protected and tedious.

Intolerable! Hugh pulled his hand away from his belt, where it had instinctively come to rest. If he moved to correct her she would have sufficient warning to be on her guard, and the resulting struggle would be as undignified as ever, and would interfere with the essential business he was attempting to conduct here. He turned his back on her, unable to stomach the sight of her in the knowledge that he shunned the duty he should undertake, not gladly, for that would be to take pleasure in another’s pain, but with a ready heart, knowing it was to her benefit and betterment.

He said, “Anne will do as one. Another must be an older head, wiser, better able to negotiate and act the diplomat. Someone I can trust,” Hugh’s eyes dropped to the floor, and he was glad this small betrayal of his feelings was hidden, “and there are so very few of them. Very few. Of those, I need all of them here. But need to varying extents.”

Behind him Eleanor shifted restlessly; the soft rustle of her clothing betrayed her.

“I see I am boring you with the very explanations I thought you may appreciate.”

“Hugh, you are saying nothing I did not know or had not guessed.”

His reproof failed so dramatically, Hugh changed direction. Perhaps after all his carefully planned actions here could be sped along. Then he could attend to her manners and be rid of her much the sooner. “As I began to say before you took advantage of the gap as I paused for breath, I shall advance to the end of what I wished to say. Anne will be the link with their family, the advisor on the Scottish court, environs and nobles, and a reminder of the old agreement. Miles will be the mind; he has the wit and experience for it, and I can spare him best of those I cannot spare at all. You will be my representative; my blood, my house, linked to me, and your presence will do honour to the mission.” Hugh glared at her over a hunched shoulder. “Honour provided you comport yourself in a fitting manner. Make no mistake of my displeasure if you somehow cause difficulty in this. Miles assures me he will keep you under control; indeed this was one of my conditions in agreeing.”

Eleanor’s eyes widened; one of the muscles in her cheek twitched. “Did he indeed.”

“He did, or I should not say so. While this is not to be a blood alliance, there being no one of my blood free to wed besides yourself,” and free was a relative term there, Hugh added with silent displeasure, “if the question of marriage arises, I beg you, give it good thought, for your own sake, mine, and that of our position. Unjust thought it is, you shall never completely be freed of the damage Trempwick has done you through his claims. A good marriage will be harder for you, even once he is proven a liar in the minds of all men. The taint to your name, and the scandal, shall remain, and people will wonder.”

“I know.”

Hugh watched her expectantly, aware she was considering the matter most carefully. A pleasing sign.

Eleanor pronounced, “I shall give any proposal of marriage due consideration. I shall agree to nothing which does not suit me, or to anything I know to be wrong. But I shall consider.”

“Good. You leave the day after tomorrow. Your escort shall be comprised of your own troops, those Miles can summon of his own in the given time, Anne’s own guard, and a number of my own men, with a combined total of about eighty men under arms desired. A very strong guard. The required servants, grooms and so on shall be supplied by the three households; yours being what it is,” he gave her a most disapproving look, “you shall be able to contribute little.”

“Who will be in charge of the soldiers?”

It was a long time before Hugh could produce the answer he had known for a goodly while, or perhaps it was only an illusion prompted by his reluctance to say. “Sir Miles is more than competent to lead, though he should not be concerned with the smaller matters. Unless you object, those will fall to your knight; he shall be the second in command. To do just honour to your status.” Hugh faced his cowardice, looked it straight in the eye, and conquered it. “Also in recognition of his recently demonstrated skills. Whatever else may be said of him he does well the task I assigned him, namely protecting you from all hurt, physical or otherwise, and he does battle with great skill.”

Unsaid, always to remain unsaid except to Constance, to whom he had confessed his ignominy as always, the final part of his decision to send her: the simple fact she would be away and gone, several weeks, perhaps a month if matters proceeded slowly or travel was slow. Gone.






I admit it – this part is bad. It has all the bounce of a brick, and about as much subtlety, the important points here being driven home with a mallet and the whole matter of Nell going to Scotland dealt with bluntly, scantily and badly.

But I’m bored! There are many scenes I really want to write lying past this one. I don’t want to talk about going to Scotland; I want to go to Scotland, and all the events which happen in the meantime. The fact it is Hugh being all stodgy does not help my interest. If I could I’d just put a placeholder marker in the text and come back to write the scene later, but I can’t because of the episodic format of this beast. So instead you get this, a rubbish scene which says what it needs to in a bad way, but says it none the less. Aside from maybe a few things which I can say later, to better effect.

Humph!



I do try. Avernite, I do try :rofl:

coz1: Fulk was going to lose because I refuse to turn him into same kind of invincible action hero. He had no conceivable way to beating Hugh's knight, because that knight has been practicing mounted combat endlessly since boyhood, whereas Fulk has long stretches where he hasn't even owned a warhorse of any type. Because of his natural aptitude, and because he was good at mounted combat in his past and has regained quite a bit with training, he could do well enough against average opponents, and beat poor ones. But this is Hugh's bodyguard. On foot, however, he never lost even a fraction of his edge. At least his unplanned victory is tempered, so he does not look like that dreaded action hero.

Become? indeed :D

Welcome, Rensslaer. :) Yes, indeed, a very unusual way to begin reading. Do you plan to go back and start at the beginning some time? If so, you will probably need these :gives Rensslaer some eye drops: It's a bit long. Thanks for the miscellany of comments, especially on the Embarrassing Scene. I'm always relieved to hear that the humour works, especially in such difficult places as rooms with beds. And stuff. :eek:o

It amuses me so much that so many people have trouble with Richildis and Jocelyn's names! I've never known them as anything other than what I use them as here. A consequence of reading too many medieval history books, methinks; the pages are littered with people by those names. I've encountered them in fiction too, most memorably in Ellis Peter's Cadfael series. Jocelyn Lucy, the squire accused of murder, and Richildis, Cadfael's old sweetheart.

Richildis is the female version of the name Richard. I would love to know when Jocelyn swapped from being a name medieval knights bore with pride, to a girl’s name which induces laughing.
 

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I have no idea, but I must admit Richildis as female name is easier than jocelyn as male name :)

And I can only wonder what happens in Scotland. Miles might perhaps switch sides to Nell? :rofl:

The possibilities! :D
 

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Well, it does not quite fly like some of your other updates, but it is very effective in getting across the needed exposition, and showing even more the mind of Hugh - insecurities and all.

I wonder if Trempy might not try to interfer with this little trip to Scotland...were he to find out about it, which I'm sure he will. Perhaps try to kidnap her again while she's away from Hugh?
 

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Eleanor accepted the cup from Hawise with a grateful attempt at a smile, and downed the contents in one long go. The herbal mess might not taste terribly pleasant, but it wet her throat, which was dry with talking after telling them about her audience with Hugh, and it would do some good to stomach cramps. Another of Hawise’ quiet, unasked for bits of help for something Eleanor hadn’t even mentioned.

Fulk sniffed the air; she could see him mentally recognising the herbs and working out what they were for. “Feeling a mite delicate, are we?” he asked, with the stinking cheer of a lucky bastard who was completely and forever immune to this particular malady.

“If I ever get my hands on Eve I shall make her a very unhappy woman,” growled Eleanor. “She ate the damned apple - she should be the one suffering. Not me.”

Fulk smoothed his polishing cloth down the blade of his new sword and said matter-of-factly, “Actually, I see you as something of my own personal Eve. It’s the smile, I think.” He glanced at her from under his brows, eyes dancing with laugher he asked, “Got an apple?”

“Where would I get an apple at this time of year?”

“Use that wicked imagination of yours, my little rib-bone. I’m sure you’ll think of something more suited to the season, and to me.”

“I doubt it is quite the same if I tempt you by dangling a bowl of pottage before your nose.”

“If it’s nice pottage …”

“I doubt I want to bother, even with an apple.”

“Spoil sport!” Fulk returned to polishing his already blinding sword. “I’m hungry. I was hoping for an early lunch.”

The faint queasiness lingering at the edges of Eleanor’s perception grew to a level where it was harder to ignore. “Please, do not mention lunch.”

“Not even if it’s got cheese?” Fulk exclaimed, “My God! You went all pale the moment I said cheese. My love is sick unto death!”

Eleanor stared flatly at Fulk. “I just decided I do not like you.” A sharp pain stabbed in the pit of her belly; she hunched forward a bit in the hopes that might ease the constant dull ache and discourage any more such pains. “Good timing,” she grumbled. “Normally I am perfectly alright, but now I have to wander off to Scotland I feel positively terrible. The world conspires to be inconvenient at me.”

Fulk chuckled, then advanced to full-blown laughter. “Oh light of my eyes, you do have a way with words, sometimes.”

“I shall remember this when we get on the ship,” said Eleanor sweetly. “You need not look for any sympathy from me when you get seasick. I shall laugh at you. Mercilessly.”

The point of his sword gouged a scar in the floorboards, so suddenly did it drop. “We’re travelling by ship?”

“Well, how else did you think we would get there? Fly?”

Fulk set his sword aside and dropped the cloth onto the floor next to it. “I’d hoped we’d ride, since that’d be the usual way” His shoulders rose and fell in a fluid motion. “The world conspires to be inconvenient at me too – I’m a decent enough sailor after the first two days. It’ll take us about a day and a half, in good weather. As if this trip didn’t stink enough.” Fulk snatched his swords back up and scoured at the blade with a vengeance.

Hawise placed a few more neat stitches on the tunic she was mending. “Stink?” she asked.

“Like the tanner’s quarter,” returned Fulk.

The tanner’s quarter being the most rancid part of any town, Eleanor didn’t agree. “Perhaps like the fishmonger’s street, or a midden heap, but certainly not worse.”

“Maybe to your refined nose they reek badly enough, oh royal one, but I said tanner’s quarters and I meant it.”

“Leave my poor nose alone.” Eleanor copied Fulk’s own habitual gesture along with his saying, rubbing the bridge of her nose with her thumb and forefinger.

Fulk waggled a finger at her. “Being silly isn’t going to distract me.”

“Distract? As if I would even try.”

The fun was spoiled by Hawise repeating, “Stink?”

“Her brother packs her off to Scotland with a guard of eighty men drawn from four different sources, Sir Miles, and Anne, and demands she wins him an alliance with the Scots. It stinks. Trempwick’ll know – he can’t not know, and that guard won’t be anything like enough if he exerts himself to get her back. Ten times that number would not be enough. That’s before you think that of those eighty something like seventy-five of them can’t be trusted because they haven’t proven themselves, unlike those few who helped rescue her. As for the King of Scots himself, God alone knows. If he takes it into his head to detain her, or use her as a hostage, or force her to marry to suit his ends then there’s nothing much to be done to stop him. Hugh could have sent someone else – he could have sent Sir Miles and Anne alone, with their respective guards. It stinks,” declared Fulk again, very passionately. “If I wanted to be rid of my sister and rival without ruining myself overly much then I’d think of something very much like this.”

Quite sure he was finished, Eleanor remarked dryly, “Well, I never did claim Hugh and I were particularly close.”

Fulk exclaimed something which sounded very much like, “Gah!”

Eleanor leaned across the gap and touched the back of his wrist lightly. “You worry too much, crook-nose.”

Fulk twisted his hand to capture hers. “Do I? I know you – I don’t think I can worry enough!”

Hawise, being the faithful maid she was, halted with her needle threaded halfway through the fabric and said, “I agree with him.”

Eleanor tweaked her hand back from Fulk and curled it in her lap with her left hand. “I feel distinctly harassed.”

“Good. Next thing is that you start to see sense.” Fulk disarmed his words by shifting forward on his stool to reach her more easily and tucking a stray strand of hair behind her ear. Softly he urged, “Find a way out of this. Refuse to go, if necessary. Say you’re ill – you are. You can get a week, easily, and delayed enough then you won’t be going.”

“I cannot. There is nothing so unusual here. Princesses and queens are ever the diplomats for their families, where other royalty and high nobles are involved. It is time honoured tradition, as is their safety while engaged on such missions. Anne’s father will not harm me; to do so would be to damn himself, and his heirs would never be free of the infamy, like the damage of betraying or hurting a guest but magnified a hundred times.” Eleanor remembered the solar’s windows; through one it was possible they could be seen, if someone came down what amounted to a back ally in the inner bailey. “Sit back; someone could see.”

Fulk braced his boots on the ground and shoved away from her, moving not just himself but his stool back a goodly distance too. He showed no reaction, but she couldn’t help but think he was hurt.

“Hugh would not purposely send me into Trempwick’s arms; it would do him too much damage. Trempwick …” Eleanor’s hand rose to the betrothal ring she wore about her neck. “Trempwick is as Trempwick does. He is my master. But that also makes me his apprentice.”





:Froggy looks up from her book, bleary eyed. She yawns, puts a bookmark in place and drops the book on to the large stack of others. Froggy yawns, blinks sleepily, and yawns again: For those of you wondering why the posting of new parts is suddenly so slow, here’s why.

The problem with being the book expert at work is that one has to be the book expert. Things have now got to the point where people often ask me if we have a book instead of checking the computer – I’ve learned most of our inventory so if asked for a title or author I know if we have it or not, and frequently roughly how many copies we have. I’m also the one who knows what most of the books are. I’m the book frog. Which means I have to try and keep pace with our new and more interesting (i.e. more popular, most likely to sell, something we need to promote, interesting looking, famous, etc books) so I can explain what they are when the inevitable customer or ten asks what X book is about, or for something suitable for Y.

:froggy blinks and reaches for her current book in a zombie like state, and tries to read and type at the same time: Consequentially I am reading all sorts in massive quantities. I’m also reading stuff I wouldn’t usually. Now that can be good, but then some of this stuff I would not read because I know I will not like it. That said, I have found some I enjoyed, like Garth Nix’s Abhorson trilogy.

Thou shalt not speakth to the frog of the customers who now ask about Dan Brown’s ‘Angels and Demons’, making the poor amphibian suspect she has to suffer through that too. Da Vinci Code was bad enough, and that’s considered his best book.

I need to read:
-Shadowmancer (Children’s but supposedly for everyone, like a darker Harry Potter. I’m not expecting great things, but maybe decent)
-River God (I wanted to read this one for some time, so an edition for £1.99 less 20% is great!)
-numbers 3, 6, 7, and 12 from Lemony Snicket’s ‘A Series of Unfortunate Events’ (One down, and counting, and I fervently hope the later books are better than number 3. I shall skim; that should do me a book per hour and a half)
-Ken Follet’s Pillars of the Earth (had it for a while, but never actually got around to reading it. Looks good)
-Tim Severin’s ‘Viking: Odinn’s Child’
-Mary Renault’s Alexander trilogy (looking good; a name I have been hearing for a time and wanting to try)
-There are 3 history books which are different to our usual – they are proper history books, not children’s stuff or error filled light fluff. All by Michael Grant: Eternal Egypt; the Fall of the Roman Empire; the Rise of the Greeks.

And that is just this week! That’s 1,500 – 2,000 pages, excluding the history trio! I’m only glad I already know my Shakespeare well enough not to need to read his complete works, along with Enid Blyton, Philip Pullman, and several others which a frog needs to know about which came in recently. This being ‘Christmas’ time we are getting two deliveries instead of one, and it seems like both more types of books and more interesting books. So that’s more for me to cover.

I can do about 100 pages of fiction per hour with excellent comprehension, maybe 120 if I skim a bit. History is more like 60 pages per hour, sometimes less, and I can’t skim that. I’m managing about 400 pages a day.

I also have shelves full of books I want to read and we don’t stock, which I am trying to make some dent in between work titles.

:froggy whimpers, but keeps on reading at a fast pace, thinking that after her current one Shadowmancer should be the next book, because we have 18 copies of it and just today one customer was asking all kinds of questions about its content, themes, and so on:

Ok, so I don't need to do any of this reading, strictly speaking. But I like it when I go into a bookshop and the people there know their business, and I get enough comments from customers to know it is really appreciated by them too.

The 'Wheel of Time' series is also looming in my future, thanks to the new one just coming out. :gulp: 11 very big, fat books, of which I have heard plenty, much of it about braid tugging women, books in which nothing actually happens, men who endlessly whine about not understanding women, and other such encouraging things. A best selling, highly popular series, which I doubt can be as bad as it is often made out to be, although it may not be great. Anyone here read it?

Humph! And yet will they send us the two newer Discworld books, 'Going Postal' and 'Thud!'? No, they send those to the other branches. Gah! I still haven't read or brought either of them. :mutter: Rather have Discworld than Jordan.



Scotland, Avernite? Well, there is the haggis scene, the bit where they visit a whiskey factory, Anne playing the bagpipes, and the boat trip about Loch Ness in which Fulk kills the Monster because it tries to eat Nell :D

Huh? Awards? Nominations? Mr Newbie? Nope, I didn't know. Thanks for telling me, coz1 :) Some days I am lucky to even get to this site; my average visit lasts less than a minute. :( There's plenty I would like to read here, too, and plenty I used to read when I had more time.

:goes and does some very fast hunting about to find out what is going on: Oh, two nominations! I doubt it will win :) I suppose I had best update my sig. :looks at the clock, to find her dinner is now burning: Gah! That fast look was not nearly fast enough. My sig will have to wait. Day off tomorrow, so hopefully then ...
 

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Froggy,

We should point out that I don't think anyone got more than two nominations, so that's no slight praise. :D While I was not one to nominate yours, I did certainly consider it one of the best. And, as I've mentioned elsewhere, *MR* was great encouragement to a beginning Vicky player!

As for Robert Jordan... I was actually searching for audiobooks at the library today, looking for the 5th book, which I'll be reading for the 2nd or 3rd time. I was surprised to see the new book, so I reserved it.

Jordan's Wheel of Time series is rich enough that I still pick up new things the 3rd or 4th time I've read one of the books. And they're epics, to be sure! As far as length, anyway. The whole concept/worldview is very detailed and well concieved (Tolkienesque?), which carries the series further in my mind than I would otherwise credit.

At times they are predictable. Some scenes are foolishly contrived -- such that some writers here could do better!

But on the whole I enjoy the series (enough to read more than once!). I'd be curious to see your thoughts, when you get to it.

400 pages a day? ::shudders:: :rolleyes: I'm a pedantic reader. I aspire to your speed!

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gah, I have to read about 200 pages in English and I don't like it(granted, not my first language) so I feel your pain :eek:

Nice piece of writing, but I wonder: will Trempy or the Scottish king do anything stupid?

As to RJ: I have read all his books up to nr 10 several times, and I can only say this: some books are great, and some suck quite badly. I'm hoping that 11 is a bit good, he was on the way up again with his prequel. I'll prolly acquire nr 11 shortly.
 

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Seems Fulk is thinking along the same lines as I was, though I admit - I did not readily think that Hugh sent her on purpose for that very thing. Nice little ending there reminding the reader that Eleanor is no slouch when it comes to games of a spymaster.