The lowborns really need to be fixed
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Now I have to delay starting a new game until they fix this crap.
Wonder If I can get a refund while I wait....lol
Wonder If I can get a refund while I wait....lol
There is also a problem that in 1066 there aren't enough noble women to go around (probably due to history not recording wives/daughters of counts/barons), which takes a couple of generations to work through.
Re retinue general spam, they probably just need to reduce them (even leaving aside the interaction with the court).
Re retinue general spam, they probably just need to reduce them (even leaving aside the interaction with the court).
The court getting packed with the lowborn is not that big of an issue although it is bothering me. The bigger issue I think is the fact that when the retinues general spam the generals are usually 20 skill and up, totally making the crafting of high martially skilled characters pointless. Many times i'm having battles with all the generals close to 20 skills, negating the whole point of having that damn skill number
Seriously, game breaking stuff. Oh well, i've been a fan since europa 1 came out god knows when, and this stuff just never goes away.
Sorry for the double post moderator, didn't catch it until now
My game is having lots of trouble technically and all these weird things like the lowborn spam makes me not want to play this!. I will just play Europa 
hmm I watched it again from the beginning of the game and it seems, yes, the dukes and counts tend to marry lowborns for some reasons
My game is having lots of trouble technically and all these weird things like the lowborn spam makes me not want to play this!. I will just play Europa
Likewise. Lowborn marrying kings in fact. This game is now a joke.
It isnt a joke, because it doesnt happen that often, but I agree that a king, a prince and a duke should at least marry the daughter of a countm but nothing bexond that.
I am not having much of a problem with this, but then again, I spam noblewoman, as i will create 4-5 of them, pick one for my mayor, and then marry off the rest off, many time to dukes or counts who are desperate for a partner. In the early game right now it seems that there is a lack of females, as many noblewomen where not recorded.
To solve the deficit of women, perhaps noblewomen from all the dynasties in the history file should be generated at game start. That way when you marry a lady she'll be a Wittselbach, not a "von Random".
My current king of Wales is married to a low born commoner. Through a hilarious chain of assassinations, wars, and diseases I lost a dozen or so potential heirs in a year, including about five heirs in a particularly bloody three months. Not that all were my heir when they died, but i went from having four kids and four grandkids to having no surviving descendants. My sisters' grandson ended up as my heir (he had been a Duke in my realm) and when I died he inherited, commoner wife and all.
The thing is, Intrigue is my only bad stat at the moment, and she's a 19 intrigue ES, with 12 in Diplomacy. I'm a little scared to divorce her, even for the purpose of eugenics.
The thing is, Intrigue is my only bad stat at the moment, and she's a 19 intrigue ES, with 12 in Diplomacy. I'm a little scared to divorce her, even for the purpose of eugenics.
Lowborns need to be fixed? Play as a Byzantine culture, and make them eunuchs. They'll be *fixed*
Few things chap my hide more than noticing that some squalling whelp is suddenly heir to two counties in my kingdom. I thought I made it clear: NO ONE GETS MORE THAN ONE COUNTY EXCEPT THE KING AND DESIGNATED HEIR. I will mercilessly slap down any vassal, Duke or Count that dares to challenge this policy. GRRRR.
I am the same way except with Duchies. I give all the counties in a Duchy to a single Duke to prevent any wars. If they expand at all or lose any land I feel the need to correct it.
Have you seen this phenomen with the lowborn only in early gamr or also in late game?
It's getting ridiculous. In my Elder Scrolls mod all the Kings and Dukes married lowborns. ALL OF THEM.
There should be a huge prestige hit for marrying lowborns, as well as a diplomacy penalty for being married to a lowborn and for being the descendant of a lowborn.
An event where your son or daughter runs off to elope with their lowborn lover would just be freaking sweet, though.
An event where your son or daughter runs off to elope with their lowborn lover would just be freaking sweet, though.
I think the problems are twofold:
Lack of historical female characters: This should be fixed by generating a bunch of random female nobles at the start of the game. In particular if a man has an heir then it seems reasonable to assume that he has a wife. Assign her to a random noble family in the game.
The 16 year old virgin: The way it's set up now pretty much everyone gets married at 16 and everyone gets married right after their spouse dies. Game mechanics push you if you don't. That doesn't make much sense, there should be some incentives to play the field, marriage wise.
Lack of historical female characters: This should be fixed by generating a bunch of random female nobles at the start of the game. In particular if a man has an heir then it seems reasonable to assume that he has a wife. Assign her to a random noble family in the game.
The 16 year old virgin: The way it's set up now pretty much everyone gets married at 16 and everyone gets married right after their spouse dies. Game mechanics push you if you don't. That doesn't make much sense, there should be some incentives to play the field, marriage wise.