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After the offensives around Livno and Zadar the Serbs had a longer front to defend and worrying about and if that wouldn’t be enough the partisans in Livno was increasing in numbers and giving the British soldiers a hard time, the supply line to the British army were also suffering. After heavy fighting in urban terrain, from house to house the partisans were driven out of the province with high losses. The army intelligence could just guess how big the partisan army was, most likely 2 000 – 3 500 After a month fighting the BEF. II had lost 2 500 men of their once 32 000 strong army. The high losses had a simple explanations, the partisan was experts in the terrain around Livno, After this map studying was done more caring. No future offensive was in planning, at least until the Italian expeditionary force would arrive.

The Austria-Hungarians knew very well the situation of the Serbs and took advantage of this. They started to gather a new army concentration in Senj outside of Zadar to take back the newly lost terrain. The Army concentration under the command of Rensch and had 40 000 men available for the offensive against BEF. III that fielded a total of 19 000 British soldiers. The defence was a very thin, the time had not been enough to prepare a strong defence. But they had chosen a very good positions, just in front the railway to Zandar, in front of them one kilometre of open terrain. BEF. III hadn’t much artillery support, one artillery brigade was available, the most artillery support and guns were concentrated in the larger army of BEF. III. Actually after the British offensive in Zandar they needed to fill up the gaps after some minor causalities, therefore 2 000 Serbs were directed to BEF. III to fill up the gaps and defend the newly captured province. Their opponent had the better numbers, a total of three artillery brigades was available for the offensive. General Thomas was in charge for BEF. III and he was very experience, he had been in the western front until three months ago and he had practised defensive operation since then. He had a rather exciting idea, he wanted a much bigger reserves and he nearly spliced the army in two because of this. He kept his main army a total of 13 000 soldiers along the trenches and his reserves a total of 6 000 soldiers south of the city Zadar.



Static’s before the battle of Zadar.

British expeditionary force
BEF. III (Thomas)
- 16th Infantry division
- 79th Infantry division, with one attached artillery brigade
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A total of 19 000 soldiers

Austria-Hungarian army
IV. Army Corps (Rensch)
- 20. Honvéd Gyalogoshadosztály
- 72. Honvéd Gyalogoshadosztály, with one attached artillery brigade
- 19. Honvéd Gyalogoshadosztály, with one attached artillery brigade
- 77. Honvéd Gyalogoshadosztály, with one attached artillery brigade
_________________
A total of 40 000 soldiers


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The battle of Zadar, October 1915

On the 28th hell broke lose along the trenches, the Austria-Hungarian supremacy in firepower was devastating and the British artillery tried to answer the fire but with very little result. The Austria-Hungarian advance guard reached the trenched some hour later but were pushed back with staggering losses, the British machine-guns had it easy to take down the attackers in the open field. But The Austria-Hungarians were stubborn and their general didn’t care about the losses, this was war. After three hours of constantly fighting the trenches started to collapse, the Austria-Hungarian soldiers fought fiercely and took over big parts of the trenches, the British artillery was nearly annihilated so they couldn’t assist with the much needed firepower. General Thomas decided to counter-attack with the reserve in order to take back the eastern railway trenches. The situation was now changed, the Austria-Hungarian machine-guns made an massacre and forced the remaining soldiers of the reserve to flee. Two hours later the last defenders surrendered.

Meanwhile in Foca

“What do you mean with, the defence in Zandar has collapsed?” yelled Bojokovic
his face turned red with anger

“well... the enemy have broken trough and have made devastating casualties on BEF. III” said the young officer.

“Then bring fourth the reserves and counter-attack!”

“Sir.... What reserves?”

Bojokovic turned his back on the officer and walked with fast steps out of the office....

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A few of the Serbian soldiers in the British expeditionary force, here defending the railroad to Zadar.
 
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It was bound to happen sooner or later. Let's hope you can get out of this fix.
 

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I suppose the BEF III did not had time to entrench very well, as Austrians did not had a significant supremacy in numbers just 2:1, which is not enough to break through entrenched army. Once I lost 5 brigaded divisions to one unbrigaded but very well entrenched division (with 100 entrenchment), this was 60,000 to 10,000 men. I lost all of my men, while the defenders only 2,000!!! Unfortunately only later I understood that I should have sent divisions with artilery brigades, as they are doing a lot of morale (shock) damage, and the outcome of the battle could have been different. It is most probable that it was the Austria's 3 artilery brigaded divisions that won the day.
 

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Sultan Of Swing said:
Great group of updates! (I would have read them earlier only I've been away for two weeks)

Thanks and welcome back :)

ComteDeMeighan said:
An excellent AAR I just read the entire thing Thanks keep up the good work :D

Thanks, I will try my best :)

Zuckergußgebäck said:
Will this be the end of serbia?

*Chews my fingernails*

Don’t underestimate my Victoria skills :D, nah seriously... I don’t hope so...

stnylan said:
It was bound to happen sooner or later. Let's hope you can get out of this fix.

Yea, my front is (was) way to stretched, maybe I need to make some tactical retreats to stabilise the front?

JVega said:
Oh, crud. =/

The Italian's better hurry up!

Very crud :(

And the Italian’s are taking their time...

Sultan Of Swing said:
The situation looks grim...

Well not to grim, I don’t think they have a chance to break trough to the “real Serbia”, not yet anyways

Cornelius said:
I suppose the BEF III did not had time to entrench very well, as Austrians did not had a significant supremacy in numbers just 2:1, which is not enough to break through entrenched army. Once I lost 5 brigaded divisions to one unbrigaded but very well entrenched division (with 100 entrenchment), this was 60,000 to 10,000 men. I lost all of my men, while the defenders only 2,000!!! Unfortunately only later I understood that I should have sent divisions with artilery brigades, as they are doing a lot of morale (shock) damage, and the outcome of the battle could have been different. It is most probable that it was the Austria's 3 artilery brigaded divisions that won the day.

Well its like you say, it was their firepower not their numbers that won the battle for them.

Five divisions with attached brigades against one ordinary division, and they lost? Man, that’s hard, isn’t it a little unrealistic? Yea, artillery brigades are the best friend on the battlefield, no doubt about it.
 

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Five divisions with attached brigades against one ordinary division, and they lost? Man, that’s hard, isn’t it a little unrealistic? Yea, artillery brigades are the best friend on the battlefield, no doubt about it.
The 5 dvisions that lost were with Guard brigades that give increased firepower but less shock value, while artilery gives both. Later on the Tank brigades are excellent, they give a high firepower and even a higher shock value, which is of most importance against entrenched armies.
 

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Excellent read and awesome screenies. Keep them coming!

By the way, can you give us an update on US involvement?
 

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The 5 dvisions that lost were with Guard brigades that give increased firepower but less shock value, while artilery gives both. Later on the Tank brigades are excellent, they give a high firepower and even a higher shock value, which is of most importance against entrenched armies.

Yea, tank brigades are surely great but I don’t think Serbia have the funds OR the technology to get them :p Yea, I have also noticed that 'shock value' is important against a entrenched enemy. :D

Arrenius said:
Excellent read and awesome screenies. Keep them coming!

By the way, can you give us an update on US involvement?

Thanks! Well frankly, the Americans haven’t done much yet just some naval operations, but I will try to add something. Next update will be on the other fronts, example, eastern-, western front, ottoman front and the new established UK front in Sweden ! :D

spfisk said:
Good update. When the Italians arrive, I hope they are led by Armando Diaz and not Luigi Cardorna. :eek: ;)
Thanks, we can surely hope cant we? :D

Expect an update soon
 

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Docster for a next AAr,why not play as France in 1914 scenario or Austria-Hungary in 1914 scenario ?

Sounds interesting, but I want to complete this AAR until I give it a serious thought...
 

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Yea, tank brigades are surely great but I don’t think Serbia have the funds OR the technology to get them :p Yea, I have also noticed that 'shock value' is important against a entrenched enemy. :D
I suppose it has to do with 'shock value' of attackers negating the 'entrenchment value' of the defending army. Just my thoughts. :)
 

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After the devastating defeat at Zandar, BEF. III reinforced with 3rd. Corps was given order to make up a strong defence position in the province of Split in effort to stabilise the front along the coast. East of them in the province of Livno the yet strong BEF. II with its 32 000 soldiers and one artillery brigade hold the positions, so the all the flanks were protected. The losses for BEF. III were catastrophic, approx. 15 300 soldiers had died or been badly injured defending Zandar, BEF. III was now tinier than a ordinary infantry division, they fielded 4 700 soldiers and nearly no artillery at all.

Meanwhile in Foca...

“Here are the maps of the fronts general that you requested, updated just hours ago...”

Bojokovic received some thick maps that represented the fronts that were held by millions of men of all nationalities.

“Thank you”

The Soldier saluted and walked out of the office. Bojokovic leaned back in his chair and started to investigate the maps very closely, yes very close indeed. A man sat besides him, it was the head chief for military intelligence of Serbia, his name was Javonic.

Bojokovic sighed “well. Lets start with our allies new front, south Sweden.”

Javonic took off his glasses and leaned back in his chair

“It goes extremely well, all goes exactly as expected according to the British plan. The Swedes were very surprised to see the British fleet making a offensive, because they thought the British core fleet was completely destroyed or badly damaged after numerous battles against the German fleet. In fact the British had saved a big reserve of battleships, heavy cruisers and transport flotillas for an naval operation against Sweden. Thinking their back was secured with the German navy they had nearly put all of their available land force on the Russian border in order to liberate Finland. After landing in Malmö they forced the Swedish navy to flee to a secure location, in this case Stockholm. But they had another big surprise coming, the Russian Baltic fleet had cut off their escape rout and sunk many Swedish ships before they broke trough. Sweden’s biggest ship Fylgia and many of their Cruisers and monitors is now on the bottom of the Baltic sea. The British army is consisting of 15 divisions and has an three division strong US force to their disposal. The front is currently located in Karlstad and Nyköping there Sweden are making a last stand to sealing the main road to their capital, Stockholm. Their Russian are reporting that the pressure on Finland is decreasing and that they have recapture the city of Helsinki”

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The Swedish front, December 1915

“Excellent news Javonic, soon the Swedes will be praying for peace, this will at least release ten Russian divisions that are much needed on the Eastern front. Now to the next front, the ottoman fronts.”

“Yes sir, as you can see this front or fronts are optimistic but also very disturbing. The Australian-Greek force still occupies Istanbul despite their disadvantage in numbers, a combined fleet of British, Greek, Australian and French ship support their struggle to hold the capital with precious firepower. The Ottomans have done no less then eight counter-attacks all resulted in failure and high losses. The British beachhead in the south-west have grown and they have encircled one of the elite divisions of the ottomans, the Erzurum division. In the east, Russia crushes everything that lies before them and they have advanced deep into the ottoman empire reaching for the Suez-channel in order to save the British Egyptian army group. Around Egypt the Ottomans are pushing with everything they got, the British army are starting to collapse against the huge ottoman army, estimated ten division big against two British and one Italian division. I Can also say with joy that the partisans have occupied two big province and maybe soon even the important city of Baghdad.“

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The Ottoman fronts, December 1915

Bojokovic studied the map for a while...

“Well, its clearly this offensive in Egypt is a sign of desperation to get a good peace, moving on to the next front Javonic.”

Javonic lifts up an big map of eastern Europe

“This is the current state of the Eastern front, as you can see, the Russian are betting the crap of our enemies. But they have put them self in a hard situation, if you look closely you see that they have stretched the front to far leaving the “corridor” nearly unprotected. They have currently occupied Wien, Praha and now they are actually in the outskirts of Germanys capital, Berlin. The Ost-Preussen defence line are nearly intact, even if the line are hold with very few divisions they have strong fortifications to rely on and have caused many brave Russian soldiers life’s. But one thing is very worrying, the number of revolts and rebellion is increasing drastically especially in Siberia and in the Baku area. Russia’s political situation is very serious because of this Bolshevik uprising against the Tsar.”

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The Eastern front, December 1915

“Yes this is very good news but also very disturbing. We need to have an eye to these Bolsheviks. Well moving on Javonic”

“The next front is the Italian one, the front border is nearly identical to the pre-war border even if the Italians have numerous advantage they have failed to break the strong Austria-Hungarian fortifications. But the Italian are planing a big offensive around Bozen involving 40 divisions and the interesting part is that the Austria-Hungarian army are reliving 25 divisions from the Italian front and regroups them to the Eastern front in order to stop the advancing Russians. This will hopefully give Italy a chance to break their defence line. ”

“If they succeeds maybe Austria-Hungary need to transfer a few divisions to Italy from ours. Very good news indeed, now on to the western front.”

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The Italian front, December 1915

“After the big battle of Paris the Germans were pushed back with heavy casualties, six German infantry divisions were annihilated by the French defenders. The French now use this advantage after the victory to attack the very weak German defences around Paris and in Belgium. In the south of France the situation is different, the German have the advantage in numbers here and they are getting closer to the Italian border. If they would reach the border it would mean a disaster for Italians that nearly have no defence on their western border.”

Javonic stopped talking and drank a big glass of water...

“Only one more front left, the most important... Ours”

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The Western front, December 1915

To be continued ...
 
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