The line goes up!

[Star Seeker]

"Muh, they are actually content with the player numbers, but I really wanted to see the game fail, muuuhhh. Big Paradox is lying to you and you should not play this game, muuuh."

The worst part is that at least half of that is true for one of the people questioning these statistics...

What the hell is this:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1600526172537905159

I knew this guy wasn't happy about Victoria 3 but this level of hostility?

 

[pikasnoop]

Did you check under the Victoria 3 logo on the graph itself?

Welp, my bad. Still, some more context would have been nice, as well as labels on the axis.

 

[Aloraand]

Any data on playtime retention of people who participated in the beta?

Personally, I have played the beta and the actual release was not as exciting, so I'm playing less. I also have to wait for the next update longer, so I'll be losing interest for a longer period of time, which can cause some people to drop out entirely.

 

[Spudgun_]

With all your critique of big corporations and their lust for money, you are surely aware that concurrent player numbers are only deemed so important because they reflect the success in the big-money genres of MOBAs and multiplayer first-person shooters well? You know, the kind of game were enjoyment and playability directly correlates to the amount of fellow players in the game? And that money talks, and as such makes their metric the "standard" for games, no matter if it is actually useful to gauge engagement over the genres?

Paradox does mostly single player games. Which may be played one evening of the week, because other day are busy with IRL. Unique players reflects that far better. On the flip side, you shouldn't measure MOBAs with that metric.
You can be suspicious. But you are going about it with gutfeel instead of analysis. Calm down, sit down, read a book about the troubles of finding good KPIs and then try again.

This is seriously flawed, when I look at concurrent player numbers I do it mainly to compare it with other Paradox releases. When compared to those other releases, Victoria 3 performs the worst second only to Imperator: Rome. It's a difficult fact. I'd love to see more unique player stats, but Paradox only showed us one small snippet of Victoria 3's unique player stats, rather than the full context including the launch, and comparisons with other games.

Also, they could easily be multiplayer games if the multiplayer actually worked and had an actual in-game text chat.

 

[vicdomen]

 

[xor]

The worst part is that half of that isn't even false for at least one of the people questioning these statistics...

Well who would have thought. Big surprise.

 

[DawramBashere]

1.2 is very good - I am one of those players who contributed to the numbers since as many other people I have been waiting for the patch to dive into the game once again. Keep up the good work!

 

[FleetingRain]

My "Victoria 3 player base isn't dying off" T-shirt has people asking a lot of questions already answered by my shirt.


I'm optimistic for the game myself but what a weird post, guys.

 

[MathyM]

Also, they could easily be multiplayer games if the multiplayer actually worked and had an actual in-game text chat.

No, they couldn’t. Stellaris and Hoi4 both have that, and they are still singleplayer experiences, that you at best play in a closed lobby with friends. It’s not the kind of game that you just join a server and play with anyone who’s online at the time.

 

[Notme1]

If you don't like game then go away and wait for it instead.

 

[piaomiaotianzun]

I don't think it's quite right. China should have at least 70000 people using Vic3

 

[permanently_afk]

This is seriously flawed, when I look at concurrent player numbers I do it mainly to compare it with other Paradox releases. When compared to those other releases, Victoria 3 performs the worst second only to Imperator: Rome. It's a difficult fact. I'd love to see more unique player stats, but Paradox only showed us one small snippet of Victoria 3's unique player stats, rather than the full context including the launch, and comparisons with other games.

Also, they could easily be multiplayer games if the multiplayer actually worked and had an actual in-game text chat.

Sure, if you say so. We'll just have to take your word for it. If you compare it to other releases, did you clean up for for confusing variables? Like how many simultaneous "active" titles there were? I know its a very difficult fact, but VIC3 isn't yet dead. Also, they aren't aimed to be multiplayer. It's like saying ol'Battlefield has singleplayer.

But that's unlikely to interest you since you seem dead-set on your opinion. So I'll leave you to it.

After-work-edit: Also, an objective decline would be visible in both statistics, and would not be subject to contention. Also, you can apparently retrieve the unique players from Steam and someone has done so in the thread (Agamine above). So there you go. If you have two conflicting statistics or KPIs, use the one which fits better. Everything else is just pandering to your own or someone elses preconceptions.

 

[UBERWASP]

I hope it doesn’t lead to an inflation...

 

[heliostellar]

I admit it... I'm back. I'm still not thrilled with the game, but just when I thought I was out you pulled me back in with autonomous investment.

 

[Freger]

What results in the fluctuation? Day and night?

 

[Notme1]

What results in the fluctuation? Day and night?

yeah

 

[Andrei Untaru]

This thread is deff showing that the devs are scared that Vic 3 is dying and are trying to FOMO it (which seems to have backfired)

They also have the AUDACITY to release a MUSIC pack, for this barebones wreck of a game, instead of adding some actual mechanics.

 

[Star Seeker]

They also have the AUDACITY to release a MUSIC pack, for this barebones wreck of a game,

You mean the music pack I'm pretty sure they promised for the great Edition pre-release?

instead of adding some actual mechanics.

Like, autonomous investiment and the small tweaks they made for free in 1.2?

 

[CassCD]

Let's see, how do I mention this politely . . . this is going to take some time . . . okay, it took about 15 minutes for me to come up this non-vitriolic statement:

It really seems like the only people who are bothered by this are Spudgun and his fanbase. A very, very small group of people who purposefully and actively want this game to fail. Just to remind everybody here about who these people are and their agenda.

 

[FleetingRain]

I don't think it's quite right. China should have at least 70000 people using Vic3

Do they use the same Steam client/server as Western countries?